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I had a better technique: Boycott


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vathula
Let's be more specific
by vathula on Jul 29, 2009 01:08 PM  | Hide replies

Technique is a very general term. Something more specific will be whether one has a good technique to
(a) Block/ Defend- Objective is not to get out.
(b) Get singles- Objective is to rotate the strike and
(c) Offensive- Objective is to get boundaries

I haven’t seen many players that are masters of all three techniques.

In my view, good examples, just among current Indian players, of the above techniques:

(a) Block/ Defend: Dravid
(b) Get singles: Dhoni, Sachin
(c) Offensive: Yuvraj, Sehwag

Comparisons should be made only within the sub groups. Not between a green apple and a red apple!

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Let's be more specific
by Anuraug Rathor on Jul 29, 2009 02:29 PM
I think Sachin in his prime had all 3 capabilities, which he proved many times.Efen Rahul Dravid had all 3 capabilities.The Sachin of today is just a shadow of his prime.

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bai sahu
Re: Let's be more specific
by bai sahu on Jul 29, 2009 04:25 PM
Get singles: Sachin

ha ha ha ....


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nitin patidar
Re: Let's be more specific
by nitin patidar on Jul 29, 2009 03:20 PM
a) Block/ Defend: M.waugh
(b) Get singles: Hayden,Ponting
(c) Offensive: Gilchrist

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Let's be more specific
by Anuraug Rathor on Jul 29, 2009 02:25 PM
That's a good argument Vathula.Not a nonsense assessment like my clone made.

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Maximus Meridius
Re: Let's be more specific
by Maximus Meridius on Jul 30, 2009 08:44 AM
Any good batsman needs all 3. You need to be able to defend to survive, until you can get a ball to attack. Taking singles keeps you from getting frustrated while waiting for the bad ball to attack. Yuvraj, as he stands now has a non-existent defense. This is why he is not suited to playing test matches. Therefore, he can't play good spin or good fast bowling on helpful pitches. People pick him on ODI form, which doesn't make sense. Flat track bully. Sehwag has a reasonable defence and a much better brain than Yuvraj.

Dhoni also has poor technique, and his performance in Aus or SA show that. However, he is a keeper first and so his batting is not his primary role.

T'kar, Dravid have good defence (Dravid is stronger here), and a good attacking game (T'kar is stronger). If you don't have a good defensive game, you become Afridi or Yuvraj. If you have only a defensive game, you become Mark Richardson. The former is too inconsistent and useless on bowler friendly wickets, the other takes up too much time to make any runs. You need both.

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rocky
NEVER HIT A SIX IN A CRICKET LIFE
by rocky on Jul 29, 2009 12:57 PM  | Hide replies

I WANT TO MENTION ALL PEOPLE THIS STRANGE RECORD G BOYCOTT HAVE NEVER HIT A SIX IN HIS CRICKET LIFE OR A IN HIS ENTIRE CRICKETING RECORD AND HE THINK HE IS BETTER BATSMAN

YEDA BATSMAN

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deewaker pandey
Re: NEVER HIT A SIX IN A CRICKET LIFE
by deewaker pandey on Jul 29, 2009 12:58 PM
gr8 record.
no 1 would like 2 make it.

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Maximus Meridius
Re: NEVER HIT A SIX IN A CRICKET LIFE
by Maximus Meridius on Jul 30, 2009 08:47 AM
Neither did Bradman. In those days, playing the ball along the ground was considered a skill. Only since ODI cricket have batsmen been more adventurous, and hit the ball in the air.

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insan
I have
by insan on Jul 29, 2009 12:38 PM  | Hide replies

I have a better techniqe than Boycott.

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Maximus Meridius
Re: I have
by Maximus Meridius on Jul 30, 2009 08:48 AM
So does Geoffrey's mum...

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Anurag Rathore
Some factors to become a good batsman....
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 29, 2009 12:37 PM  | Hide replies

1.Technique
2.Temprament
3.Physical condition to play big inning

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deewaker pandey
Re: Some factors to become a good batsman....
by deewaker pandey on Jul 29, 2009 12:44 PM
4. the number of shots a batsman can play.
5. ability to judge the ball quickly.

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Anurag Rathore
Re: Re: Some factors to become a good batsman....
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 29, 2009 12:48 PM
We can say like this:

3.Stamina
4.Variety of shots
5.Quick reflexes

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insan
Re: Re: Re: Some factors to become a good batsman....
by insan on Jul 29, 2009 12:53 PM
6- BOOST

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Re: Some factors to become a good batsman....
by Anuraug Rathor on Jul 29, 2009 02:03 PM
So you say Sehwag has any less of these than Laxman,Vishwanath,Amarnath and Vengsarkar?Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Some factors to become a good batsman....
by Anuraug Rathor on Jul 29, 2009 02:04 PM
Fool, so do you say Sehwag has any less of these than Laxman,Vengsarkar,Vishwanath, or Amernath?Looks like it's time for your medications, clone boy

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sanjay
Even my technique is 100 times better than Boycott.
by sanjay on Jul 29, 2009 12:33 PM


That is what I say. lol
But I never played tests.My average is zero in tests. ROFL.


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balaji gururajan
Sunil Vs Boycs
by balaji gururajan on Jul 29, 2009 12:31 PM  | Hide replies

I am not sure about Boycott's record against spin. If he does not have the reputation of playing spin very well as the case with all Englishman knowing very well that Sunil was equally good against spin and high quality fast bowling, Sunil should be better than Boycs!

But on selfishness, they both should be same since Boycs drew a match for england in one test to stay not out and being dropped the next match even though he scored 246* and Sunil's infamous 36* after carrying his bat for 60 overs are well known!

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Rajendra Uparkar
Re: Sunil Vs Boycs
by Rajendra Uparkar on Jul 29, 2009 02:43 PM
I agree with you that Sunny was equally good against spin as well as against high quality fast bowling. I still remember his last test inning of 96 (where he was given out)against Pakistan in March 1987 on deadly turning wicket at Bangalore. The ball was doing everything then - turning viciously, bouncing, shooting, keeping low. The bowlers were Tausif Ahmed and Iqbal Quasim. The Pak captain was Imran Khan. I have never seen such high calibre inning against spin bowling thereafter.

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sanjay
Even my technique is better than Boycott.
by sanjay on Jul 29, 2009 12:31 PM

That is what I say. lol
But I never played tests.My average is zero in tests. ROFL.

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iranna kalyani
TECHNIQUE
by iranna kalyani on Jul 29, 2009 12:21 PM  | Hide replies

technique is not big part of batting,
sanjay majrekar tecnique is 25 times better than sehwag's tecnique...but sehwag is 50 times better batsman than manjrekar...

if tecnique is the main thing then jaffer, manjrekar,chopra and another 1000 ranji players becomes legends.....

sehwag plays better in bouncy and moving austrailia and nz conditions than jaffers, chopras and manjrekars.... so bottom line is if there 1000 apects of batting then technique is one aspect of batting not everything..


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Against Pseudos
Re: TECHNIQUE
by Against Pseudos on Jul 29, 2009 12:22 PM
IK:

Where did Boycott claim otherwise?

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Anurag Rathore
Different people, different opinions...
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 AM  | Hide replies

If Boycott thinks he had better technique than Gavaskar, there is nothing wrong in it.

I have not seen Boycott to play, but by seeing records I can say Gavaskar was better player.

A player with less technique can have better records than a player with good technique. Like Sehwag has better record than players with good technique.

Indian media is hyping the issue for TRP. There is nothing wrong in his statement. It is his opinion.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Against Pseudos on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM
AR:

Very well said..... very balanced and objective assessment...

Good job!... :)

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Anurag Rathore
Re: Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 AM
Thanks. Finally you are agree with my statement.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Against Pseudos on Jul 29, 2009 12:11 PM
AR:

I always agree with statements that are well delivered, objective and which make sense.... :)

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Anuraug Rathor on Jul 29, 2009 12:13 PM
Records dont say the whole story my friend.And your nonsense statement that Sehwag has a better record than players with a good technique only reflects your IQ.Lets see you explain on what basis you think Sehwag's technique is inadequate, and who is the player with better technique than Sehwag who has a poorer record than him.Lastly, explain your contradictions-you say you think Gavaskar was a better player based on his records, and then go on to say that a player with less technique can have better records.

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Anurag Rathore
Re: Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 29, 2009 12:20 PM
You have no IQ.

1.Gavaskar was better player than Boycott is my opinion.
2.I never said Gavaskar has better technique than Boycott.
3.Have you ever heard the name of Laxman, M.Amarnath, G.Vishvanath, D.Vengsarkar etc. ?They all have better technique than Sehwag while Sehwag has better record than them.

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Anuraug Rathor on Jul 29, 2009 02:01 PM
Your IQ seems below zero.
You avoid my question again-On what basis did you make the lofty conclusion that Sehwag's technique is any less than the players you mentioned?Also,you need to substantiate that Sehwag has a better record than those players.Stop talking baseless stuff.

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deewaker pandey
Re: Re: Re: Different people, different opinions...
by deewaker pandey on Jul 29, 2009 12:24 PM
yup technique does not guarantee to have better record as there r so many factor involved in batting. take the example of manjreker. he has very good technique. the problem is- he has only technique.

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Anurag Rathore
Re: Re: Re: Re: Different people, different opinions...
by Anurag Rathore on Jul 29, 2009 12:29 PM
Right.

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Yogesh Hasabnis
Gavaskar And Boycott
by Yogesh Hasabnis on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM

Even though Gavaskar played more test matches than Boycott, Gavaskar had a better average than Boycott. So even if they had played the same number of test matches, Gavaskar would have been ahead of Boycott.

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