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Beginning of the end for Fab Four?


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subramonium rajagopalan
Ganguly
by subramonium rajagopalan on Oct 09, 2008 07:38 PM

Ganguly has been good for a long time and breathed fire in many matches.
As people grow, time comes to back off! This is natural.
Rajagopalan

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Ravindra Joshi
Ganguly
by Ravindra Joshi on Oct 08, 2008 04:44 PM  | Hide replies

If suppose close your eyes and think if Ganguly hits 2 centuries and 2 half centuries.. in the current Aussie series
then what will be reaction from BCCI.. Whether
they request Ganguly to some more Cricket....????....

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Chandra Paul
Re: Ganguly
by Chandra Paul on Oct 08, 2008 08:57 PM
Possible only if the new players fail. Like Sanath Jayasuriya got a call after IPL.

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DARSHAN BHAVSAR
Re: Ganguly
by DARSHAN BHAVSAR on Oct 17, 2008 11:24 AM
Also we point out that all fab 5 are good players but they all 5 perfom now slowly decreas so they should decide what they are capable of bcoz its very hard to make decision on ourself but it is must for indian cricket so as per last 5 years note we have make noticed that sachin should more focus on test cricket and good for him fitness to out from now 1day to give chance to young talent.Ganguli also honourable and he is already out from one day cricket from selective commitee and we also agree with that he should focus more on only test level now that he will be inspirational to other players and we dont think he behave like only king as he is a great human and great cricketer so he will definetely support the indian comming talent and selector also give full support to experience players to make him statement freely despite to make politic 4 personal winning coz u all dont forget that in your personal winning for secure your place and to show your impotance although not good for indian team int-national level it will big lose despite your personal win and secure place u all dont forget your place all will be safe once indian team perfom well and indian team will perfom well when all selector and expe- batsman support good talent indian cricketer current form.and also dravid include only in test and kumle-vvs should retire in both format.Make GAMBHIR captian in both format. give chance parthiv,rena,badrinath,chopra,chawl-ojha,nanda,m parmar,r sharm,kohli-pujra,dhawan 4 test


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Vinay Singh
Fab Four
by Vinay Singh on Oct 08, 2008 03:47 PM  | Hide replies

Its basically should not be termed as end of the fab four era, but what I feel it is the opportunity for the coming ones to learn from legends and then carry on from there.

Only thing which is sometimes disheartening is, these were the players who gave fame and name to Indian cricket along with Anil Kumble and these were the individuals whose names used to create fear in the opposition camp. We in India have a policy " I REPEAT" policy to defame the individual when they are not performing, not looking that one and a half decade is the period wherein what they have given. BCCI should not have made things public and should have spoken to these legends and then have agreed mutually on there respectful exit.

These people actually deserve standing ovation from the BCCI heads when they close off their career.

By Vinay Singh

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zubair shighrekar
Re: Fab Four
by zubair shighrekar on Oct 08, 2008 04:05 PM
superbly narrated....

very true...


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DARSHAN BHAVSAR
Re: Fab Four
by DARSHAN BHAVSAR on Oct 12, 2008 12:16 PM
Mr. vinay you r right

Also we would like to point out that all fab 5 are good talented players but now fact is they all 5 perfomance are now slowly and slowly decreasing so they have to decide what they are capable of bcoz its very hard to make decision on ourself but it is must for indian cricket so as per last 5 years note we have make noticed that sachin should continue to more focus on test cricket and good for him fitness to out from now oneday to give chance to other one talented younger.Ganguli also honourable and he is already out from one day cricket from selective commitee and we also agree with that he should focus more on only test level now that he will be inspiratinal to other players and we dont think he behave like only king as he is a great human and great cricketer so he will definetely support the indian comming talent and selector also give full support to all experience players to make him statement freely despite to make politics for personal winning bcoz u all dont forget that in your personal winning for secure your palce and to show your importance although not good for indian team international level it will big lose despite your personal win and secure place u all dont forget your place all will be safe once indian team perfoming well and indian team perfoming well when all group selection and experience batsman support good talented indian cricketer current form and motivate himself with promotion position and give prize to make economic strong.

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muralidharan jayapal
Re: Fab Four
by muralidharan jayapal on Oct 14, 2008 02:54 PM
Where are the full stops yaar?


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Arumugam GK
I think Soooooooo..
by Arumugam GK on Oct 08, 2008 03:09 PM  | Hide replies

the thing is they shouldn't leave together at a single time. there should be a gap of atleast 4 months time between each of their retirement. So that the youngster's who's gonna come in, can learn something out of the these oldie's Valuable Experience. As far as i've concerned this is what should happen in the near future. But it all depends on the each individuals. No one knows how they are feeling right now except for themselves. So what i'ld say is, bring in the talented youth during these guys retirement period and let them play with these so called experieced players and learn something that they might not have even heard of. That will be a good learning curve for them. This is the oppurtunity that they are all waiting for. They should grab it with both hands and prove their mettle and talent to this world that they can fill in these experienced players shoes. So don't worry abt scoring runs and your place in the side, just go out there, play your natural game and have fun ike what sehwag is doing currently...

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DARSHAN BHAVSAR
Re: Re: I think Soooooooo..
by DARSHAN BHAVSAR on Oct 12, 2008 01:05 PM
Also we point out that all fab 5 are good players but they all 5 perfom now slowly decreas so they should decide what they are capable of bcoz its very hard to make decision on ourself but it is must for indian cricket so as per last 5 years note we have make noticed that sachin should more focus on test cricket and good for him fitness to out from now 1day to give chance to young talent.Ganguli also honourable and he is already out from one day cricket from selective commitee and we also agree with that he should focus more on only test level now that he will be inspirational to other players and we dont think he behave like only king as he is a great human and great cricketer so he will definetely support the indian comming talent and selector also give full support to experience players to make him statement freely despite to make politic 4 personal winning coz u all dont forget that in your personal winning for secure your place and to show your impotance although not good for indian team int-national level it will big lose despite your personal win and secure place u all dont forget your place all will be safe once indian team perfom well and indian team will perfom well when all selector and expe- batsman support good talent indian cricketer current form.and also dravid include only in test and kumle-vvs should retire in both format.Make GAMBHIR captian in both format. give chance parthiv,rena,badrinath,chopra,chawl-ojha,nanda,m parmar,r sharm,kohli-pujra,dhawan 4 test

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J Jena
Kya Aap Panchvi Pass se Tez Hain?
by J Jena on Oct 08, 2008 02:54 PM

suppose India wins test series and BCCI arranges felicitation, who will sit on the front Row?

1. Board Members including President
2. Fab 4
3. Young Brigade
4. Selectors

If India loses who will take the flak?

1. Fab 4 / Is there anybody gutsy enough to do so
2. Ganguli
3. Pitch Curator
4. Selectors.



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Commentator
Fab Five
by Commentator on Oct 08, 2008 01:59 PM  | Hide replies

It should be Fab Five - including Kumble - this refers only to 'being legends' - nothing to do with 'due for retirement'!

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Chandra Paul
Re: Fab Five
by Chandra Paul on Oct 08, 2008 09:00 PM
Fab Four are Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble
Fab Five -- includes Laxman

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vinod lohani
Re: Fab Five
by vinod lohani on Oct 08, 2008 02:38 PM
it is immaterial right now whether the reserve is ready or not.Any how we have to face the situation where these 4 will not be there so sooner the better. It will be a great thing if all of them announce their retirement immediately after this test series.

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DARSHAN BHAVSAR
Re: Fab Five
by DARSHAN BHAVSAR on Oct 12, 2008 01:07 PM
Also we point out that all fab 5 are good players but they all 5 perfom now slowly decreas so they should decide what they are capable of bcoz its very hard to make decision on ourself but it is must for indian cricket so as per last 5 years note we have make noticed that sachin should more focus on test cricket and good for him fitness to out from now 1day to give chance to young talent.Ganguli also honourable and he is already out from one day cricket from selective commitee and we also agree with that he should focus more on only test level now that he will be inspirational to other players and we dont think he behave like only king as he is a great human and great cricketer so he will definetely support the indian comming talent and selector also give full support to experience players to make him statement freely despite to make politic 4 personal winning coz u all dont forget that in your personal winning for secure your place and to show your impotance although not good for indian team int-national level it will big lose despite your personal win and secure place u all dont forget your place all will be safe once indian team perfom well and indian team will perfom well when all selector and expe- batsman support good talent indian cricketer current form.and also dravid include only in test and kumle-vvs should retire in both format.Make GAMBHIR captian in both format. give chance parthiv,rena,badrinath,chopra,chawl-ojha,nanda,m parmar,r sharm,kohli-pujra,dhawan 4 test


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shammi
so
by shammi on Oct 08, 2008 01:15 PM  | Hide replies

just see nz cricket team..........no star player.............no individual records............but their performance is consistent...........

now they r i bangladesh and if they win odi series 3-0 they will be no.2 in icc odi ranking



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Chandra Paul
Re: so
by Chandra Paul on Oct 08, 2008 09:01 PM
yes. they have never reached WC final also

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Nelesh Sharma
Re: so
by Nelesh Sharma on Oct 14, 2008 01:41 PM
and have lost the 1st ODI to Bangladesh tooo...!!!

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vineet kumar
Sachin should leave
by vineet kumar on Oct 08, 2008 12:58 PM  | Hide replies

Sachin should be the next....Dravid can play for next 6-8 months......laxman has 2-3 yrs left ...but sachin should have leave b4 Ganguly

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km vb
Re: Sachin should leave
by km vb on Oct 08, 2008 02:45 PM
Sachin's name reflects for Individual record only.He was not a member for 60-60 ODI world Cup(Kapil Dev Captaincy),20-20 ODI(Dhoni Captaincy), Bensen&Hedges Cup(Gavaskar Captaincy).He is very adamant that he wanted to play till 2011 because his last exit in last world cup was with a score of BIG ZERO.

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rahul bose
Re: Sachin should leave
by rahul bose on Oct 08, 2008 05:48 PM
@kmvb

Sachin was the highest run-scorer in 1996 and 2003. He has scored more runs than any other player in the world. His batting average is better than anyone else in the world.

Talk Sense!!!

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rahul bose
Re: Re: Sachin should leave
by rahul bose on Oct 08, 2008 05:49 PM
I was talking just WC record.

He has the record runs and average in WC.

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Nelesh Sharma
Re: Sachin should leave
by Nelesh Sharma on Oct 14, 2008 01:46 PM
Still we are yet to win the world cup.. and we will win only when this Tendlya is not there in the Team..!1

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vinay
Re: Sachin should leave
by vinay on Oct 08, 2008 04:21 PM
Dear Friend,
Stop these bull shit. Cricket is a team game where Individual performance are highlighted. Look at the runs scored by Sachin and you think he is not contributed to team. Then shame on you and his other team members, who fails to understand what team efforts means.

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ANIL JAISWAL
Re: Sachin should leave
by ANIL JAISWAL on Oct 08, 2008 04:02 PM
shame to you to write like that for sachin. in 2003 you were runners up in world cup because of sachin. its beteer to be runners up in 50-50 than winner in 20-20 as 20-20- is luck . no one can predict champion before math started . please try to give respect to those who make india proud

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Senthil
Re: Sachin should leave
by Senthil on Oct 08, 2008 02:58 PM
How do rate the CB series, Sharjah Cup Finals winning single handly. may be at tht time u t blind???????? Don't pass something non sense.

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shadow
Re: Sachin should leave
by shadow on Oct 08, 2008 02:59 PM
sachin will play upto 2050

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Saket
Re: Sachin should leave
by Saket on Oct 08, 2008 04:46 PM
As per I think only performance should be the criteria to pick the player in the team. I don't thin Thendulkar is not doing well. See his performance(accept SriLanka)in last one year in one day as well as Test that very good even batter then any one. Then why we people are talking about his retirement? Is any body there who has caliber to replace him? I am not saying that he should be in the team for his passed record but he must be in the team based on his current record. In 2008 he has played 10 scored – 399 runs and 416 in 4Test (accept SriLanka series). Is it not sufficient to be part of the team? A Great player like him can not be ignored because of one poor series.

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Nelesh Sharma
Re: Re: Sachin should leave
by Nelesh Sharma on Oct 14, 2008 01:49 PM
Please remove the century he scored in Jan'08 and check his record.. instead of little master he is lobby master now..!!!

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shammi
Re: Sachin should leave
by shammi on Oct 08, 2008 01:13 PM
cricket is team game.........

play good cricket collectively no matter u dont make any individual records........



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vaisakh sheebasathyan
Re: Sachin should leave
by vaisakh sheebasathyan on Oct 08, 2008 04:54 PM
u crazy nut?have u ever watched this great man play?who r u to comment on the world's greatest cricketer.he is hailed as the best by the likes of bradman donald warne,mgra walsh lee,akthar,richards just to name a few.iam not asking u to consider past performance.do u have alshimers? has u forgot the finals of CB series last odi series he played?and the test series before it?go and take some treatment for mental retardation.

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DARSHAN BHAVSAR
Re: Re: Sachin should leave
by DARSHAN BHAVSAR on Oct 12, 2008 01:08 PM
Also we point out that all fab 5 are good players but they all 5 perfom now slowly decreas so they should decide what they are capable of bcoz its very hard to make decision on ourself but it is must for indian cricket so as per last 5 years note we have make noticed that sachin should more focus on test cricket and good for him fitness to out from now 1day to give chance to young talent.Ganguli also honourable and he is already out from one day cricket from selective commitee and we also agree with that he should focus more on only test level now that he will be inspirational to other players and we dont think he behave like only king as he is a great human and great cricketer so he will definetely support the indian comming talent and selector also give full support to experience players to make him statement freely despite to make politic 4 personal winning coz u all dont forget that in your personal winning for secure your place and to show your impotance although not good for indian team int-national level it will big lose despite your personal win and secure place u all dont forget your place all will be safe once indian team perfom well and indian team will perfom well when all selector and expe- batsman support good talent indian cricketer current form.and also dravid include only in test and kumle-vvs should retire in both format.Make GAMBHIR captian in both format. give chance parthiv,rena,badrinath,chopra,chawl-ojha,nanda,m parmar,r sharm,kohli-pujra,dhawan 4 test


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Senthil
Re: Sachin should leave
by Senthil on Oct 08, 2008 01:15 PM
When Ganguly and Dravid enter in to the side thy r forced through their seniors. But no One at the moment from Indian Youngsters" and "But The Juniors should be groomed with these seniors. If kumble can play at the Age of 38 sachin still have at least 3 yrs left in his career. Mind it. Before commenting anything about a Champion

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shammi
Re: Sachin should leave
by shammi on Oct 08, 2008 01:16 PM
Every proffesional inning field has a beginning and an end. Cricket is nothing different and neither are the cricketers. Its onle better understood by the professional as to when he should quit the field in which he or she is in. Hence the best judge for the decision is Ganguly himself. Debating over the reason of his retirement ( whether he was pressurised by BCCI or the underworld etc..) is of no use as far as Ganguly's retirement goes as its already taken.
However on the other hand, i believe such a scrutiny is required for the present and young heroes who would also become old horses one day. No player should be forced or thretened to quit. I beleieve that the player himself is intelligent enough and can easily determine when he is supposed to quit the game.
As far as Ganguly is concerned, lets give a proper farewell to a stalwart who has immense contribution to Indian cricket. Every player has his failure and success, even the greats of Don Bradman, Sunil Gavaskar, Clive Loyed, Vivian Richards and our very own Sachin Tendulkar had their share of success and failure. I feel that instead of posting our comments such that "it was due, required etc", we should appreciate his efforts and provide him the farewell that a genious should get. AND THIS SHOULD APPLY TO EVERY SINGLE PLAYER WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE GAME AND OTHER GAMES.



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Joseph George
Re: Sachin should leave
by Joseph George on Oct 08, 2008 02:48 PM
You are right about Laxman. I feel sad about your outlook for Sachin.
Even playmaker / cohesive factor is lost its sheen. In football there might have been some worth as it nulifies two backs to mark the number 10.

I feel sad, very very sad. Earlier it was cos of speculation. Though certain he will do something brilliant and get back into the fold .... I pray for that brilliance to return of the quicker eye.

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