RE:check the % winning average.
by sanjib hpl on Feb 13, 2007 11:41 PM
now SG has scored more runs in ODI also his average is better than RD, does that make him a better batsman than RD, stats prove nothing, when SG took over the captaincy team india was under immense pressure with betting controversy, if you consider it is the same team when RD took over captaincy for this WC except 3 new faces, both have done a lot for team india, better we support both of them rather than comparing some stats
RE:RE:check the % winning average.
by devi katta on Feb 14, 2007 12:02 AM
Both of them have proved there worth and how team india revolves around them every now and then, they are two greats india have ever produced.
Ganguly was really not in the 15 Squad four months before, now he has made a wonderful comeback..no one would have expected from him to perform so well in south africa straight away..he has proved his worth, let us back him he will definetely be on top.
Well, i am not totally convinced with the selection of few players but i really hope that India does well in the World Cup.But one thing i would like to bring to everybodys notice is that inspite of many new players coming India still is dependent on 2 to 3 players such as Sachin, Ganguly & Dravid.In the last Worldcup these were the players whom India was looking to deliver & even in this World we are depending on them.Does this mean that India has not found anybody to replace these players?? Apart from couple of other players like Dhoni & Karthick nobody from newcomers seems to carry the burden on their shoulders.So what does this mean??Can we bank on Sehwag & even Yuvraj alone (without Sachin, Ganguly & Dravid) to win matches for us?? NO... Isnt this a failure for Indian cricket?? I know Cricket is a team game & all 11 players need to perform, but still years after years we are still very dependent on 2 or 3 players.
Even dravid won 18 out 22 odis before ind lost 14 odis WI series won without ganguly and tendulkar, How can a captain can achieve in one yr that other cpatian acheeved in five yrs. How much relvant is comaprison. Even gnaguly praised dravid's captaincy. told dravid need time. Dravid show that he is character captain and can win test series aborad like wadekar and kapildev and expressed his emotionf India%u2019s first Test win in ten attempts on South African soil by waving Indian flag it showed t how much this wondrous 123-run triumph at the Wanderers meant to like it was a special moment for Dravid, like two years ago when he led India in Multan to their first win on Pakistani soil, like four months ago when he took them to their first series win in the West Indies in 35 years ganguly was considered succeful captain after tenure of 5 yrs. Even under his leadership ind had lost NZ, Auss, pakistan, WI, SA.. dravid had proven many times he is good captain/ batsman in both forms of game by his performance the difference between ganguly and dravid is ganguly is more media favourite and flambouyant while dravid did not get media publicity whatever amount he deserved also.. on the filed dravid never exhibit his dominence as a captian, but ganguly did that with full authority. when ind won matches dravid shared the dies with other players and lost he did press briefs himself. when gnguly dravid as VC used to press briefs when ind lost but ganguly was in front of media when ind wonDravid is the backbone of Indian batting line up. He earned the nickname as mr dependable, wall, Mr liablabe on the basis of his performance, commitment, professionalism he is the most dedicated player India could ever have and one of the finest batsman who plays with his heart for India Dravid had contributed when Ganguly was captain: In 49 Tests, a whopping 4912 everyone plays for the team and team wins rather who performed.dravid played for years for team and it is the responsibilty of others to repay what he did for other captains. runs at the amazing average of 73.31. dravid score 2075 runs average 105.1 in 21 tests which india won under ganguly;'s leadership. DADAsourav ganguly did not win series when he was captained india tour of south africa Dravid has atleast won one match in S.A ,
RE:dravid did good job stat porved but media is biased
by Kaushik Basu on Feb 14, 2007 08:18 AM
Dravid might be a good captain but the players he is backing e.g. Sehwag in his current form etc, I doubt that his records as captain would improve. Ganguly had a huge advantage against Dravid, he had a deputy as Dravid and a batsman as Dravid, remember Dravid does not have either. Anyway best of luck for the WC for the Indian team.
RE:My World Cup Team
by Nilesh Joshi on Feb 14, 2007 12:50 AM
Abay murthi....Very Bad...South Indian team bana raha hai kya...Yeh world cup hai..South Indian world cup nahi...Very Stupid suggestion.
RE:My World Cup Team
by Abhijit Nimkar on Feb 13, 2007 11:30 PM
Man, r u a Indian or just a South Indian?? And apart from that d u think even 1 of the above player(except Srikanth & Dinesh Karthick) is good enough??? RobinSIngh was good only on the legside & bowlers are smart enough to not allow him to get free on leg side. Murali Karthick??? Why selectors even discuss abt this guy , i dont understand. He stands no chance ever.
RE:RE:My World Cup Team
by Mauruthi on Feb 13, 2007 11:35 PM
Murali Kartik won test for us against Australia and after this Karan More hatched conspiracy against him and took him off the team.
If you see his statistics in CricInfo.com: 8 Test 24 wickets matches
Badani has better ODI average 33.34 than kaif (32), vvs (29), sehwag (30), dinesh mongia (29)
RE:RE:My World Cup Team
by Mauruthi on Feb 13, 2007 11:47 PM
People are saying this team is south-india biased. So i am inclkuding Rajnikanth and Mithunda as 12th and 13th man.
RE:RE:My World Cup Team
by Mauruthi on Feb 13, 2007 11:27 PM
It is best team possible under these circumstances brother. If you notice my team has 2 to 3 all rounders while the one selcted by dilip vensircar has no allrounders.
RE:RE:My World Cup Team
by on Feb 14, 2007 01:17 AM
Why a team with all south Indians is not Indian? I think we should intentionally fool ourselves by taking universal Indian names that will not reveal our geographical, religious, sectarian or caste differences. Say Amen to that brother!
That would make 31 matches against minnows. He also won couple of matches against B grade windies.
Against top teams
Australia 16 played lost 11 won 4 Pakistan 17 played lost 10 won 7 SA 16 played lost 7 won 8 SL 16 played lost 6 won 8 NZ 16 played lost 6 won 10 England 14 played lost 7 won 6
Except against england he has not achieved 50% success any other team
RE:Ganguly's captaincy record.
by manoj kumar on Feb 13, 2007 11:32 PM
Dear friend i think u r not kumbhakarna and sleaping for 16 months(not 6). the scenario is changed. ganguly pulled out of indian team. the cricket lovers(who says ?)thrown stones to him with ian chappel(not bata shoe) and The Dada come back with his solid batting and style. now he is the first man selected for world cup without any discussion. as every one knows he is our best captain and most winning captain and one of the best batsmen in the world. Now he left everything and concentrating on his batting under dravid without any complaint. then what happened you my dear friend you are coming with some record book and you are anlising his grade for what? he never says to be a captain again. he is the only man who build the team india. So please leave him alone for getting a world cup. ok. if any other indian cricket fan is having such problems with him pl report immedietly. i think as a captain batsman he is one of the best in the world.
RE:Ganguly's captaincy record.
by pranav patel on Feb 13, 2007 11:26 PM
hey man i think ur maths is very weak. calculkate the percentages again, see where the won figures are. according to your figures against SA, SL and NZ the figures are 50% or above. take the calculator man.
RE:RE:Ganguly's captaincy record.
by Keshav on Feb 13, 2007 11:46 PM
very sorry..
I don't need calculator.. i need observation
Infact.. all wins are losses. all losses are wins. I swapped it for those teams. You can check in cricinfo. Choose India. Captained by Ganguly. Choose overall summary.
RE:Ganguly's captaincy record.
by Wriju Ray on Feb 13, 2007 11:31 PM
How does he compare with his predecessors? you talk as if other captains have actually done better! You statistics mean nothing unless they are compared with some other captain's figures. Besides Dravid's good figures are also a derivative of Ganguly's spadework.
If you want world cup to win please i request you to select my team as below.1)zaheer 2)pathan 3)ganguly 4) tendulkar 5)dravid 6)dhoni 7)romesh powar 8)kaif 9)munaf 10)yuvraj 11)dinesh mongia 12)kumble 13)karthik 14)utthapa 15)sehwag zheer - dangerous comeback main strike bowler pathan - alrounder bat / ball can be bonus for india ganguly - bounce back with tufan mail bat tendulkar - got back form because of gangulys comeback dravid - wall of the nation has to be a solid now dinesh mongia - whay i select cause can bat and ball spining option for india kaif - no one can compete in india as he is the solid fielder romesh powar - poor guy don't spoil his confidence otherwise its very hard to get the same again he is good alrounder can bat and ball ohters are okay no need to give explanation because kaif / mongia / powar can make difference. My dear dravid wake and change you world cup team.
Ganguly was out of team bcuz of ICC put ban on him, his poor battign,pathatic form and his mentor Juggudada lost power and ganguly was non performing captin in later stages of his captaicny did not deserve XII man and but contiued till icc put ban. Even after that he had poor county season. In domestic criceket he scored some 100s but there are other players who performed better than him but new players have no godfather, media hype or poltical support. Ganguly entry to team is bcuz of political pressure. And ganguly is only player who goes to media on regular basis accusing selecion commitee, senior players to gain attention of public Laxman and kuble were out of team but both of them never make such noises. In 2003 WC it was sachin who won match against pakistan to reach semis not b'cuz ganguly's captiancy. And though dravid made an statment in public, captin is not selecting team. and he also encoured the youngerster like munaf, srisant, raina, robin dinesh karthi etc,, Dravid is captain of side only for 16 months and how can anyone except to acheive him what ganguly did in 5 yrs. Even urvraj kaif, herbajan all got many chance before they cement their places. and some youngesters like akash chpra, s reamesh ajay ratra parthiv patel, hemang badani sanjay bangar, muali karik are lost their chance in nat'l team b'cuz they were on good in books of ganguly
RE:Statistics prove dravid did equally good job in 16 months
by Nirmalya Chakraborty on Feb 14, 2007 10:29 AM
If you understand cricket then talk about it.. Don't bring in politics of which you understand nothing.. You keep on saying the same thing again and again without any substance..
RE:Statistics prove dravid did equally good job in 16 months
by Kaushik Basu on Feb 14, 2007 12:45 AM
Yes very ture it is apart from him rest of the team are making hundreds of runs it is only him who is getting out on Zeros. Who is biased? You call us biased.
The media is being unfair towards Rahul Losing a match will definitly draw criticism Even ind lost many series under ganguly ;s captaincy but he did not resign he enjopyed captaincy b%u2019cuz his mentor dalmiay ahd the power in bcci his success as captain is b%u2019cuz of contributions of dravid laxman, kumble and sachin and In WC it was sachin who won match against Pakistan to take team to semis but nobody remembers his effort. Ganguly took the credit as successful captain but dravid shared the success with other players and he accepted defeat on his responsibility in front of media. When ganguly was captain if team was defeated dravid used press briefs as VC. And dravid shares dies with other players when ind won match. Dravid only captain for 16 months How much success ganguly got in first 16 months of his captaincy?? Ganguly would be nothing if it were not Dravid and Laxman that not only saved us from embrassment but also earned accolades for India when they played against Australia. And in Pakistan ind won sereies when dravid was captain, ganguly was not part of playing eleven. Adilade test won by dravid%u2019s innings. In Kolkata Nov 2005 dravid scored 2 100s in both innings.
TEAM INDIA's performance / gamguuly%u2019s own performance during the last 2 year of Captaincy, it was PATHETIC!!! Just go and take a look at his batting record between 2003-2006 and you will get the reason for him being dropped from the team
