Out of Ganguly's 18 hundreds, 8 have come in winning cause against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Kenya, Namibia etc. His lone hundred against Australia the best team was in a lost cause. So 10 hundreds against other teams leaving minnows have come in victory causes.
While Sachin's 6 hundreds against Australia have come in winning causes. Sachin's 9 hundreds out of 29 have come against Kenya, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh etc. So 20 hundreds against rest leaving minnows.
Dravid hasnt scored a hundred against Australia in one dayers. Dravid's 2 hundred have come against UAE and Kenya in winning causes. While 10 of his hundreds apart from those have been in victory causes for India.
Ganguly 41 fifties score in Winning Causes. 14 have come against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland, UAE and Canada Remaining 27 against rest.
Rahul Dravids 47 fifties have come in Winning Causes. 11 have come against UAE, Bangladesh, Canada, zimbabwe and Kenya. Remaining 36 against the rest.
Sachin Tendulkar 51 fifties have come in Winning Causes. 11 came against UAE, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Canada and Bangladesh Remaining 40 came against Rest.
Ganguly has a long way to go before he catches Rahul Dravid in one dayers too as far as Most Valuable Player(MVP) is concerned.
Sachin Tendulkar, 2nd Test India V/s South Africa, Newlands, Capetown.
Sachin Tendulkar 169 Runs of 254 balls. Bowlers, ALLAN DONALD, Pollock, Klusner and McMillan.
Allan Donald, 24 overs, 3 maidens, 99 runs and 2 Wickets, Runs per over 4.12 in TEST CRICKET.
Well if you check his records, he has scored hundreds against Australia when Australia had McDermot and Company and again when Australia boosted McGrath, Warne and Company and in Australia.
Apart from that if someone wants to say show sachin demolishing McGrath, Donald etc, then the poor chap wants sachin to bat like a slogger.
Sachin has scored runs at a very healthy run rate against McGrath, Donald etc, kindly go to cricinfo and do advance filter and find it out before you comment.
RE:shocked to know that Dravid is getting an award....
by kaushik saha on Dec 16, 2007 04:55 PM
Kuntak, that is the saddest part of our country - bootlickers are always given prizes for eing loyal to their masters, and not tue performers if that had happened - If only dedication, Pasion, Commitment to the country had been recognised, India would have been much better off. But that is not to happen. POLITICS RULZZZ
RE:shocked to know that Dravid is getting an award....
by India on Dec 18, 2007 02:04 PM
Bootlicking? Perhaps Dravid learnt it from Ganguly who used to lick Dalmiya's boots when he was captain.
RE:shocked to know that Dravid is getting an award....
by The Heat on Dec 16, 2007 02:56 PM
Saurav Ganguly has not reached the 10k mark in test cricket?
RE:shocked to know that Dravid is getting an award....
by satish on Dec 16, 2007 03:10 PM
Ganguly has made most of his centuries on dead pitches when the matches ended in tame draws. Also compare the test records of Dravid and Sachin to Ganguly. He is nowhere in comparison. He should have been out of the team a long back if only for politicians taking to the street demanding him to be selected again.
Good effort from BCCI. When we would see awards for following Category: - Best Fielder Best Athelete Best Umpire Best Coach
Until we are going to start these categories and do really smthing to upgrade ourselves in these categories no real progress is possible.
We do not have even single umpire in ICC's elite panel. Can understand the level at domestic level. We should get our coaches trained and upgrade them to A team and then senior team.
No need to explain the importance of having good fielders and better athletes.
RE:Still lot to do
by satish on Dec 16, 2007 02:17 PM
Also Ganguly should be given the award for
Best Dhobi Best Rosogolla maker Best Chamcha Best Mover and Shaker when Brett lee bowls bouncers Best Egg laying Duck,previous record held by Agarkar Best Injury Faker Best Whiner (of not getting opportunity to bat higher in the order,not cutting the grass on pitch,about media and many other things.
RE:Still lot to do
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 02:22 PM
Come on , please ddon't spread hatred. I'm not a Bengali, neither much of a fan of Ganguly. But there is no use in in hating someone and spreading hatred. Peace, brother.
RE:Still lot to do
by Sujoy Ray on Dec 16, 2007 02:47 PM
In continuation to our pervious discussion...
I can not change your views about Bengali's because you seem to be regionally biased person. BTW If I am barking here, I think you also belong to same category as me. I requested you to provide with your contact details. Since you did not, I will get in touch with rediff and will ask for your account details and IP address from where you are typing all these nonsense messages. I will show you what I can do. FYI, please go and read how you can be booked under cyber law. I am not doing just because I am Bengali -I think in general person like you should be taught a good lesson so that they will think twice before using such abusive languages.
RE:RE:Still lot to do
by satish on Dec 16, 2007 02:58 PM
Go ahead and do that as soon as possible. While you're at it,show me where I abused Bengalis ? Also take similar action on those people who have written abusive comments about other communities. Or do you only take action when your community is targetted ?
RE:RE:Still lot to do
by Sujoy Ray on Dec 16, 2007 03:17 PM
Satish,
Some of your comments are like this..."you chinese chamcha ?" How can you attack a community like this ? Please note that this an open forum and all these messages can be accessed internationally. So, you must be careful what you write! I am staying in aboard and I know lot of my colleagues who are not Indian but are interested about Indian cricket and they do read articles published in rediff. Just think what impression they will carry about India when they read these abusive comments - have you ever thought this? I am in a process of contacting rediff so that they disclose your identity. Sujoy Ray.
RE:Still lot to do
by satish on Dec 16, 2007 03:24 PM
Things which are far worse than chamcha have been written on this forum about other communities. Perhaps you were blinded by it as you only seem to be affected by abuse directed at your community. So I suggest you also take a look at other messages posted and report all of them as quickly as possible.
RE:Still lot to do
by Sujoy Ray on Dec 16, 2007 03:34 PM
I do not have time to read all these messages. I just picked up you as a sample case. If you want to prove your innocence by saying that others are doing so I am - I guess that will not help! It is something like someone is doing murder so I am also doing the same - what is the need of the education then if it does not help you to differentiate between the good or bad? Please note that I am also not supporting others who use the same abusive language as you do. Once you will see the consequence of using abusive language in an open forum, I think others will learn from your example.
RE:Still lot to do
by kaushik saha on Dec 16, 2007 04:59 PM
forget these poeple Sujoy, they speak without much knowledge their world revolves around Dravid, deepika padukone, rajkumar and BPOs. How would they know the good from the bad?
RE:Still lot to do
by Sujoy Ray on Dec 16, 2007 05:59 PM
Kaushik, Thanks for your suggestion but I am not going leave this guy just like this. I have already contacted Rediff's CEO and as well as customer care. I have already received an e-mail saying that they will address my issue within 2 working days. I will contact our local Indian mission - it's a matter of great concern how these guys are spoiling the image of India just for simple fun! Regards, Sujoy.
RE:RE:Still lot to do
by Sujoy Ray on Dec 16, 2007 02:47 PM
Satish, In continuation to our pervious discussion...
I can not change your views about Bengali's because you seem to be regionally biased person. BTW If I am barking here, I think you also belong to same category as me. I requested you to provide with your contact details. Since you did not, I will get in touch with rediff and will ask for your account details and IP address from where you are typing all these nonsense messages. I will show you what I can do. FYI, please go and read how you can be booked under cyber law. I am not doing just because I am Bengali -I think in general person like you should be taught a good lesson so that they will think twice before using such abusive languages.
It's sad that ICC Women cricketer of the year 2007 is getting the same amount as R.Uthappa and R.Bose. No doubt, Bose and Uthappa good, but what about the plight of Women Cricket.
RE:Tendulkar, Dravid to receive BCCI awards
by test on Dec 16, 2007 01:36 PM
shut up hypocrit..even if Govt sponsers women cricket u will not watch..so just shut up and stop talking crap
dont blame the govt for every thing..if today every one starts watching hockey or womens cricket automatically sponsers will pour in
the problem is u guys waste full energy in cricket..its all the fault of the janta and not the govt
Good to see the best performers receiving good sum of 5L each for their contribution and acheivements during the year.
One wonders though do these people still need a crore rupee contracts to survive and make fortunes.
Seriously one cannot help ut think what if these guys were paid only on their performance if we are winning 12 out of 25 matches in a year it will surely go up to 60-65%.
Stats can be deceiving I challenge any one of you to show me clippings of Sachin demolishing the following bowlers
1)Allan Donald ( cant forget how he uprooted sachins off stump) 2) Glen Mcgrath ( cant forget the no of times he got sachin out esp in world cup) 3) Wasim Akram ( cant forget how he most of times gets sachin caught on off side) 4) De-Villeirs ( cant forget how he mesmerised sachin with his slower balls)
He could never play a crap bowler like Aqib javed who got him out so many times
Sachin plays laloo bowlers and scores runs
Also please give me a situation wheer he has played under deep pressure in one days
He played against the weakest paki bowling attack
Dont tell me SOHAIB..Akhtar had a nightmare in Australia where he got kicked by every australian batsman
Sachin is just records but when it mattered most he has always let u down...
PONTING IS THE REAL STAR,WHO CAN CAPTAIN AND ALSO PLAY in pressure
Sorry all Sachin fans.. Indian team is over hyped and even its players
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 01:12 PM
CRICKET 'BIBLE' WISDEN SALITES TENDULKAR AND RATES HIM AS THE 2ND GREATEST TEST BATSMAN AND THE GREATEST ODI BATSMAN OF ALL TIME
Cricket's Bible Wisden has devoted special space to Sachin Tendulkar in its latest issue, eulogizing the Indian batting genius for being "miles ahead" of his contemporaries and continuing to "write an elegant, belligerent and unprecedented history".
The write-up says though Tendulkar cannot be the greatest batsman ever in history, "in Tests and one-dayers together, the reality of international cricket today, Tendulkar will take some catching too".
"Tendulkar will never be the greatest batsman in history; that seat is taken. But as much as Donald Bradman's Test average (99.94) outstrips Tendulkar's (57.58), the gap diminishes substantially when other factors are taken into account.
"Tendulkar travels more in a year than Bradman did in a decade; he has had to manage the varying conditions of 49 Test grounds, to Bradman's ten; he has already played twice as many Tests as Bradman, and over 300 one-day games, nearly all of them under the unrelenting scrutiny of television. And whereas Bradman had to cope with the expectations of a small populace, not given to idolatry, in an age of restraint, Tendulkar must play God to one billion expectant worshippers."
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by gourav gupta on Dec 16, 2007 01:51 PM
Mr You seem to be too much in love to your viewpoint. You are not ready to accept anything. Point sin favour of Sachin since yiu have already read or heard u would not accept. There has not been a single batsman in the world of cricket would never be in future not to get out against the bowlers. Sachin is also not and can not be exception.
Have ever Sachin played innings of some importance against all these bowlers? Certainly Yes.
Has he ever hit these guys for boundries? Certianly Yes.
all these are great bowlers. They also know how to ball against a batsman. They had their moments against Sachin, Sachin too had his moments against these bowlers.
Besides above all the more important thing is Sachin has carried the burden of whole batting on his shoulders on his shoulders all alone. In 98, 99, 20000 the situation was if anyoone can do anything it would be Sachin. Sachin also tried to bat at numbers from 1-10. Also comparing Sachin with ponting is not fair. Look at the difference between the cultures two countries have. Without taking anything away from Ponting it is easier in Austrailia. First and formost the domestic cricket is really competitive inAus and Caotain at least has smthing to inherit and some kind of security. Take all these factors into account Sachin os undoubtedly greater to his fellow cricketers and undoubtedly one of the all time Great Cricketers.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 04:12 PM
Whom are you trying to convince, yourself or others ? Tendulkar won the MOS award in 1999 plaing against McGrath. Tendulkar whipped Akram in 2003 World Cup. Tendulkar dosen't have to score even a a single run more and yet he'll go down as the greatest batsman of his era. One doesn't need to look at your views, when Sir Donald Bradman have already rated Tendulkar as the best batsman.
RE:RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 04:15 PM
Your opinion doesn't hold a dime, whereas there are immortal comments from immortal legends describing Tendulkar as the best, eg - Bradman, Viv Richards, Ponting, Lara, Warne, McGrath, Barry Richards, Grame Pollock, Donald, Akram and many more. Your comments and views mean shit, whereas the views of these legends will always remain immortal in history.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Sidharath Sharma on Dec 16, 2007 01:42 PM
Dear Test,
First u give us a simple answer that there are hundred of players playing international cricket. Ok, lets suppose sachin floped aginst these bowlers. He scored highest runs in test and one days, no one can reach at those records in both form of cricket. Is not this mean that his counterpart even failed against so called "Weaker bowlers"? You tell me who is better then him? U are exhausting your anger in such a way, as your are one of the so called weak bowler, whos carier finsihed by legend batsman.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 01:50 PM
1. Allan Donald - Funny that Allan Donal have stated multiple times recently that Tendulkar is the greatest batsman of his era.
2. Wasim Akram - Funny that Akram rates Tendulkar on top along with Viv Richards and Sunny Gavaskar.
3. De Villiars - Don't know much about him.
4. McGrath - Funny that McGrath rates Tendulkar as the 2nd best bastamn he have ever bowled to after Lara.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 01:59 PM
WISDEN rate Tendulkar as the 2nd greatest Test batsman and the greatest ODI batsman of all time. Go to Wikipedia to check out the facts.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 16, 2007 01:09 PM
TENDULKAR TOPS SHANE WARNE'S LIST OF GREATEST CRICKETERS
Sachin Tendulkar topped Shane Warne's countdown of greatest cricketers edging out Brian Lara, who was placed second. Curtly Ambrose, Allan Border and Glenn McGrath rounded out the top five in Warne's Times column.
Warne rated Tendulkar ahead of Lara on account of his mental toughness and hailed him as a "great player and a great man". He wrote, "Outside grounds [in India], people wait until he [Tendulkar] goes in before paying to enter. They seem to want a wicket to fall even though it is their own side that will suffer ... He [Tendulkar] grew up under incredible weight of expectation and never buckled once - not under poor umpiring decisions or anything else."
Warne and Tendulkar clashed several times on the field, but their most most famous battles were on Australia's tour to India in 1997-98. Warne struck the first salvo, dismissing Tendulkar for 4 in the first Test, but was then taken apart in the second, going for 122 runs in 30 overs as Tendulkar smashed a matchwinning unbeaten 155. Tendulkar finished the series with an average of 111, while Warne's ten wickets cost him 54 apiece.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by test on Dec 16, 2007 01:12 PM
If warne says so that does not mean he is greatest..Australians talk so much crap against Indian team and players,so will u agree to that..
Answer my questions??
Warne is a spinner and when he came to India,every player smashed him..
Tendulkar really got beaten up by the bowlers i mentioned..and they are all top class bowlers so it proves sachin cant hit top class fast bowlers
RE:RE:Tendulkar sucks
by test on Dec 16, 2007 01:18 PM
stop that old story of warne..I asked u about those mentioned bowlers..do u have any answers?? Players like gibbs helped sa to chase a score of 400 and sachin can never dream of doing that..Till date he never helped India win when scores are in excess of 300..he has helped when v batted first but when it has to chase a huge target he has failed most of the times
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by The Heat on Dec 16, 2007 07:17 PM
People like Gibbs can also ensure that you're team is knocked out in the semi-finals. if you do remember the 2003 WC - Sachin single-handedly got us into the effing finals!
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by test on Dec 16, 2007 01:03 PM
sir viv richards played at a time where there were qucik bowlers and they didnt even wear helmet..sachin will pee if he is asked to do that
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by test on Dec 16, 2007 01:07 PM
why dont u answer my question instead of avoiding and u know it very well he has never touched those bowlers
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by ajay dixit on Dec 16, 2007 03:41 PM
TEST....is that you name????? you should be crazy to not even use ur real name. any how.. i am not a fan of SACHIN.. But the entire cricketing nations would agree that sachin is only second to Don Bradman. Man... he has the record for more 100's, almost top scorer both forms (ODI & Test - only next to brian lara which he will cross soon)... I think you should go to a psychatrist for some treatment.... we are fortunate to see this little master play at our generation... and he is a LIVING LEGEND.
RE:Tendulkar sucks
by test on Dec 16, 2007 05:10 PM
ONLY INDIANS AGREE...
PONTING HAS ACHEIVED ALL IN 3-4 YEARS WHERE AS SACHIN TOOK AGES..HAD BRAD MAN BEEN ALIVE,HE WOULD HAVE CAHNGED HIS VIEW
YOU ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WANTED HIM OUT OF THE TEAM WHEN HE WAS NOT PERFORMING AND JUST HE PLAYED SOME FEW KNOCKS RECENTLY YOU ARE AGAIN PRAISING HIM
IN 2003 WORLD CUP SACHIN WAS DROPPED OF AKRAMS BOWLING
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT KARNATAKA PEOPLE? THEY ARE VERY TALANTED, BRAVE,(MANGALORIAN GIRLS ARE SMART AND VERY BEAUTIFUL IN INDIA) AND SMART. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE AWARDED. DON'T FORGET, AISHWARIYA, SHILPA SHETTY, DEEPIKA PADUKONE, AND MANY, MANY MORE ARE FROM KARNATAKA SPECIALY FROM MANGALORE. KANNADIGAS ALWAYS MAKE INDIA PROUD !!!!
RE:FOR THOSE WHO TALK FOOLISH ABOUT KARNATAKA !!!
by kaushik saha on Dec 16, 2007 04:52 PM
u have given examples of Beauty some examples of smartness - Dravid (the smartest guy ever, can suruvive by just swimming with the tide) talented - dodo ganesh (what a talent!!!!!!)
RE:FOR THOSE WHO TALK FOOLISH ABOUT KARNATAKA !!!
by India on Dec 16, 2007 01:01 PM
Oh Please. Stop this rhetoric. Give us a break. There are great people among other communities and states also.
Start your comment and end your comment in dignified way otherwise, there are many more words in my dictionary that will make you repent for starting filthy language duel.....
