Dear Mr. Nationalist, I am impressed by your patriotic howl but do u recall Vidarbha (Nagpur) where India under Saurav Ganguly was handed a green top pitch so that Aussies could defeat India to discredit the captain. When Chappel wrote a six page insulting e mail for India captain and leaked it too (all imputations in which now stand disproved), not one of the members of Indian cricket establishment and likes of you saw an insult to India. On the other hand you saw an opportunity for your regional hero. How do you conviniently forget that the oscene finger shown by Chappel to Kolkatans did not hurt you or the powers of Indian cricket establishment but even a nudge at the BCCI president resulted in all round protests. Is the BCCI president more homourable that the people of Kolkata? Today when your regional heroes are in dump, suddenly nationalistic fervour has become your flavour. Patriotism is some thing that lives deep in heart (ceainly not in the hearts of people like you) and is not to be worn on sleeves.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by Indra Sengupta on Dec 09, 2007 10:46 AM
Shame on you Indians, the jealous, the buffoons, the good for nothings, and the diggers of your own graves. Good things are never meant for you. Even if you get it you will lose it soon.
RE:RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by Rambothu S on Dec 09, 2007 10:04 AM
I am not into this bong business, but I think I understood Kolakatans when they behaved that way. They were honest in their behaviour. I think 100000 people cannot be dishonest spontaneously - it is churlish to believe it. There must have been mistakes committed.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 09:59 AM
Ashish, Its a fact that email was leaked by Dalmiya himself for non cricketing reasons.Dont you think BCCI will have a final say on the nature of the pitches?Will small associations like vidharbha go against their diktat and lose thier future share of matches? Given the fact that Dalmiya was ruling BCCi at that point in time ..you can very well relate these two.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by indiafriend on Dec 09, 2007 10:29 AM
Again wrong facts....this is the same Chappell who SMS to his partner in crime like reporter Rajan about taem selection...who dutifully leaks it to media after WC Loss. As regards Vidarbha, that was a Pawar stronghold at that time...and by the way you can condemn Kolkata for preparing a greentop and not Nagpur. You are a typically bigoted regionalist supporter....dont call urself Hindublogger but '(Your region)blogger'.
RE:RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 10:36 AM
Dude am not a fanatic supporter like you.Yes I like they way Sachin plays.. so I do like players like Lara,Kevin,Sangakkara etc in the same way I used to adore players like Viv,Sunny,Azhar,Kapil,Marshal,Holding Ambrose,Wasim etc.I just see it as a game and doesn't always look at how much a person scored ..i just enjoy the game.Regarding Dalmiya episode ..my sources are my bong journalist friends from Kolkata who are any day more informed than ppl like you.Regarding my id ..am a Hindu and am proud to be one :-). In the same vein why dont you change your id as bongfriend ? :-)
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by Girish Rao on Dec 09, 2007 10:41 AM
dont expect indiafriend to understand such sentiments, all he cares about is whether Ganguly is there in the team or not.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 09, 2007 10:08 AM
Ganguly was Dalmiya's blue eyed boy. Do u believe Dalmiya could have tried to sabotage Ganguly? The president of VCA was Shashank Manohar, a Pawar protege. It was his handiwork. What is your response to the obscene finger episode? I still feel like hanging my head in shame to see a foreigneer showing such a finger to Indian crowd and thereafter get adulation from cricket fans from other parts of this country. I have read in history that Subhash Chandra Bose had "otenised" professor Oten of Raven Shaw College for his villifying Indians, risking his academic career. What has happened to Indians' today? If u have seen the first movie of Amitabh Bachchan "Saat Hindustani" (script by Khwaja Ahmed Abbas), you will get the answer. You might say I am being emotional but do not feel embarassed about it. Patriotism is all about emotions only. And let me add, this is not hatchet that can ever be buried.
RE:RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 10:16 AM
In fact Saurav backstabbed Dalmiya badly on the personal front.Why you think he moved away from Dalmiya?
RE:RE:RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 09, 2007 10:24 AM
Saurav moved away from Dalmiya to resurrect his own career. Like many other mortals he chose to salute the rising sun.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 10:27 AM
Thatz not true ..since am well informed about what happened between the two.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 10:14 AM
No dude ..there was some personal scores to be settled btw the two.you can take that.It true that Saurav grew in stature under dalmiya.I dunno whether ur from Kolkata or not ..if you have any bong journo friends there you can check out the reason. Regarding finger incident ..that was his arrogance and board shd have kicked him out of the country then and there ..dont you think so?Well bongs did go overboard when they got somebody whom they can cheer about ..thatz true too.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 09, 2007 10:23 AM
Friend, I am neither from Kolkata nor from Bengal. As an Indian I felt my pride was hurt. It was even more hurtful that fellow Indians chose to patrionise the offender. Even today that offender is sitting in India courtsey Lalit Mody and often shows the audacity of giving advices. Many Indians do not take pride in being Indian and that is why Indians were slaves for so many years. And India can always produce a short sighted Jaichand/Mirzaffer to help conquer India for their own narrow selfish ends.
RE:Response to nationalistic sentiments of Shri Girish
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 10:27 AM
I agree with you on this.Just imagine if he was pakistani ..how the crowd wud have behaved.
Attack Saurav; Whether he plays or fails. If he plays too well then attack Bongs. Call them commies call them wrong. Call them anti Ram. If you can not criticise Saurav for his game criticise him as a bong. Seems India is infested with parochial short sighted people, thanks to communal caste and regional politics unleashed by politicians.
RE:Attack
by Girish Rao on Dec 09, 2007 09:33 AM
dude, it is the bongs who are responsible for it. It is the bongs who made it a issue of us v/s them when Ganguly was dropped rightfully. Have Telugu guys made it a issue of us v/s them when Laxman was dropped from ODI or Kannadigas when Dravid was dropped from ODI. I have never seen such partisan behaviour on any other crowd and you cannot explain it away as being emotional. Supporting opposing teams over India is utter nonsense.
RE:Attack
by Marunga Danda on Dec 09, 2007 09:45 AM
Yes attack the Bongs that is what you can do best. Brand the performer as useless and invent more ways to criticise Saurav and the Bongs.
Jaffer Dravid Laxman Sachin Sourav Yuvraj Dhoni Kumble Irfan Zaheer RP/Munaf/VRV etc. whoever is fit.
Dravid better open, an out of form Dravid is still better than Karthik. And I guess in Melbourne we have to go with 3 seamers and 1 spinner. We can try 2 spinners in Sydney.
RE:First Test Team against Aussies
by on Dec 09, 2007 10:47 AM
Do you know that before the previous two test matches, Karthik was having the best average among all the indian test players for 2007. Guy fails in couple of matches and you want to kick him out.
here I expect India to do well not some regional players. I don't care if Dravid is dropped or anyone is dropped due to non-performance. I want India to compete well and compete hard and always try for a win all the time just like Australia, a nation of 1 billion deserves lot more success in cricket as unlike other sports cricketers are very well looked after. Selection should be based on merit and current form and experience. Not based on hero worship. I remember clearly how Chennai crowd appreciated both India and Pakistan when India lost narrowly and I also remember clearly how Kolkata crowd booed Indians and supported South Africa just because their local boy was stripped of captaincy, I hope it never repeats again
RE:Unlike many bongs
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 09, 2007 09:44 AM
Dear Mr. Nationalist, I am impressed by your patriotic howl but do u recall Vidarbha (Nagpur) where India under Saurav Ganguly was handed a green top pitch so that Aussies could defeat India to discredit the captain. When Chappel wrote a six page insulting e mail for India captain and leaked it too (all imputations in which now stand disproved), not one of the members of Indian cricket establishment and likes of you saw an insult to India. On the other hand you saw an opportunity for your regional hero. How do you conviniently forget that the oscene finger shown by Chappel to Kolkatans did not hurt you or the powers of Indian cricket establishment but even a nudge at the BCCI president resulted in all round protests. Is the BCCI president more homourable that the people of Kolkata? Today when your regional heroes are in dump, suddenly nationalistic fervour has become your flavour. Patriotism is some thing that lives deep in heart (ceainly not in the hearts of people like you) and is not to be worn on sleeves.
RE:RE:Unlike many bongs
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 09:47 AM
Dude ..it was leaked by Jagmohan Dalmiya ..for non cricketing reasons. If you have any bong friends from kolkata in sports journalism circles you may check it out.A couple of my kolkata based bong journo friends had told me what transpired behind the scene those days and what was the reason
RE:Unlike many bongs
by indiafriend on Dec 09, 2007 10:34 AM
I have a lot of Bong journalist friends in Kolkata and they never could confirm anything. But you seem to have more info...maybe courtesy Rajan Bala...the Hindu reporter and Chappell licker. Man...please do not try to spread wrong info here...you posts seem to have some ulterior motives
RE:Unlike many bongs
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 11:09 AM
Nope dude ..my friends are very much from Kolkata.and in the leading English dailies of the country.Just check out y dalmiya's daughter got divorced ..you will get the answer.
RE:Unlike many bongs
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 09:19 AM
True.But Kolkata crowds has always been like that ..they are tad too emotional compared to other parts on India.1984 Test against England,1996 world cup ..South Africa test ..its been happenings since many yrs..
RE:Unlike many bongs
by Girish Rao on Dec 09, 2007 09:24 AM
well if some Indian muslims support Pakistan would you be so cool about it. They were not simply booing India, they were cheering South Africa openly. Every wicket of India was cheered loudly every boundary and six of Graeme Smith and Andrew Hall was cheered loudly. What is the guarantee the same thing wont happen again if Ganguly is dropped from ODI, they will start booing Kirsten and Dhoni.
RE:Unlike many bongs
by Girish Rao on Dec 09, 2007 09:29 AM
yeah Kirsten will find out the hard way that easy money comes at a price and he better avoid Kolkata if Ganguly is dropped by any chance. The crowd will probably kill him.
RE:Unlike many bongs
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 09:36 AM
Well Girish ..there is nothing wrong in appreciating good performances. It usually never happens in India ..with the exception of Chennai Ind-Pak test and also they used to appreciate the gr8 WI team of the past.Well booing the Indian team is really bad ..I agree
RE:RE:Unlike many bongs
by indiafriend on Dec 09, 2007 09:37 AM
Did you notice Kolkata crowd cheering Laxman whenever he goes out to bat? Did you ever notice the adulation Sachin enjoys or even Azhar till now? Or you are too regionally short-sighted and want to bully out here. BTW...do you remember from your diaper days on why Gavaskar was booed in 1984? It was the same reason in 1996 against SA. Kolkata crowd is not regionally biased...it stands up against injustice meted out to a Haryana boy or a Kolkata lad. But I guess you guyz would never understand the meaning of standing up for the wronged. It'd take maybe another century of civilization for guys like you to understand this.
RE:RE:RE:Unlike many bongs
by hindublogger on Dec 09, 2007 09:43 AM
1996 SA? But what was the reason behind 1996 WC semifinal ruckus? 1984 am well aware of ..poor Patil never got a look in after that
RE:Unlike many bongs
by Girish Rao on Dec 09, 2007 09:36 AM
hey transvestite go and read my posts again I was not criticizing ganguly or dravid. I was critcising bongs behaviour when Ganguly was dropped. Ganguly was rightfully dropped back then no doubt about it. And he is playing well now no doubt it. What is so diffrent in my posts
RE:RE:Unlike many bongs
by indiafriend on Dec 09, 2007 09:40 AM
Ganguly was rightfully dropped but wrongfully kept out for a year. That was the whole point. But maybe you missed it and now guyz like u are eating the humble pie.
RE:Kolkatta supported South africa when Ganguly was dropped
by indiafriend on Dec 09, 2007 09:12 AM
What is the relevance of this question in the context of this match? Or are you trying to rake up the dead out here..
RE:Yuvi and dada the greats!!!...
by HARD HITTER on Dec 09, 2007 08:58 AM
At the end of today's play India will be 465 for 5. We will score 100 runs in entire day and ganguly will be 225 not out in 700 balls.
in 3 of the last series but we also expect them to show equanimity if Ganguly fails and maybe dropped(just hypothetical :) )and and not create ruckus like they did last time around. 3 cheers to Yuvraj and Ganguly
