Re: The question probably arose
by aaaa on Aug 24, 2010 10:14 PM
So if some one spends time in a different country then you question their nationality???? Man when did rule come-in. Now I understand why most con-gress slaves think Son!a is an Inidan citizen
Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Manoj on Aug 24, 2010 10:22 PM
he is taying in spain.. not spending time there. i am not a fan of sonia, but unnecssarily draging her name into everything is only giving her more credits. you seems to be blank on NRE, NRI concept. first do your homework and then open your mouth and a$$
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Setu Madhavan on Aug 25, 2010 12:20 AM
NRE NRI concept has ZERO to do with this. Please read up before you talk nonsense.
Even if Anand is an NRE or NRI, he is still an INdian citizen!
Honorary degrees have been awarded to foreign nationals not only by INdian universities but by universities all across the world.
Re: Re: The question probably arose
by gac on Aug 24, 2010 10:18 PM
@aaaa, there are chances for a person staying abroad to have dual citizenship. and you need to give certain documents to get doctorate.
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Setu Madhavan on Aug 25, 2010 12:19 AM
LOL..firstly, even if a person has dual or three or four citizenships, the person still is a citizen of India (btw the dual citizenship concept is still not implemnted in India. Anand is an Indian citizen. period.)
Second, an HONOURARY degree needs no documents. It has been awarded to people from abroad as well. Universities world wide confer honourary degrees.
Sibal screwed up. Plain and simple. Like he has been from time to time.
Re: The question probably arose
by Joy Gupta on Aug 24, 2010 10:24 PM
It is a common practice to award any distinct personality with an honorary D.Lit. In the past this honour has been conferred to even foreign nationalities. Other universities in abroad also confer similar honours to international personalities.
Therefore the logic of checking or proving the nationality is bizarre. It must be the handiwork of some illiterate quota-based appointed Govt servant who has zero GK.
Anand has been bringing laurels to this country for many years now. Just because he stays in spain, nobody should question his nationality unless he/she is a born idiot. Anand can be an NRI, but his nationality remains Indian.
Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Manoj on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 PM
My question is why is he staying in spain if he loves india ? india is so bad or what. he is trying to get dual ciizenship and then leave indian citizenship
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Joy Gupta on Aug 24, 2010 11:50 PM
Manoj, do you know what is meant by logistical advantage. Please search for it in the net and then comment.
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Setu Madhavan on Aug 25, 2010 12:26 AM
If Anand wants to live in India or Uganda, it is his choice. Dont worry about him trying to get dual citizenship - the concept of Dual citizenship is not available to indian citizens, as Indian govt has been sleeping on this proposal. So you can rest easy.
If Anand chooses to take Spanish citizenship, it again is his choice. Dont lose sleep over it.
About your question, 'India is so bad or what'? Well UNDP states that 8 states of north India have more people living under pathetic poverty worse than 25 poorest nations of AFrica. That doesnt speak very highly about India being so great - after 60 years of Independence. Transparency Internattional ranks india at the bottom in the list of least corrupt countries.
If you go around the world, it is diffiult to refuse accepting that India is not the best place. We can call it best out of patriotism, but at some point we got to accept facts.
I can keep claiming that India wins all the gold medals in olympics, but that wouldnt make the olympics awareda all gold medals to India. Would it?
But since no one awards gold medals for development we can keep claiming we are the best. No one will object. So yes, you are right, keep claiming we are the best nation.
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by mohan on Aug 24, 2010 10:35 PM
Anand lives in Spain as it is convenient location for travel and living, so he can stay current with Chess - most "Seconds" i.e. top chess gurus, trainers are residing in and near that part of the world. These "seconds" are very expensive - you need to learn how Chess is played by the masters. This is a stressful game and he has found a way to go on with it.
Re: The question probably arose
by gac on Aug 24, 2010 10:15 PM
true he is a NRI and there is a procedure to be followed. it is just his fans made a big thing about it.
Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Setu Madhavan on Aug 25, 2010 12:28 AM
He is NRI so what? HOnorary degrees are awarded to foreign citizens as well. So why wont they award it to a citizen like Anand?
YOu will soon see that Sibal ji will award the degree without following any additional procedure. That will shut you up.
Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Joy Gupta on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 PM
For your kind information, there is no separate procedures for NRIs. This is an honour and any NRI is equally qualified to receive it as a domestic Indian.
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by Manoj on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 PM
it is you who needs a brain check.. no one told he is not an indian citizen. You know when you people talk about indian culture i feel like laughing. Sometimes I feel indian culture is about the blame game. creating unnecessary controversaries. twsiting stories and adding masala at each step. great you are AN INDIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Re: Re: Re: The question probably arose
by gac on Aug 24, 2010 10:19 PM
@aaaa, who said NRI's are not indians? first try to understand what people are talking and then you call others fool.
watch anand vs toplove world champianship at youtube. those are great game. I hate congess and sible for accusing anand nationality. ask sonia about her nationality porki rahul and sonia.
As expected, he was lightning fast. Hope people understand that Grandmasters play Chess at a totally different level. And this is the reigning world champion.
The guy who forced a draw against this kind of player, T Srikar needs to be groomed.
Re: Anand Blitz
by subramanyasastry hoskote on Aug 24, 2010 09:49 PM
Neither nor the wonder kid have first rights. So there is no chance for grooming. Scoundrels talk about the nationality of the GM.
Re: Re: Anand Blitz
by mohan on Aug 24, 2010 10:00 PM
Share your view. Leaders who don't know how to work with our distinguished citizens should not hold ministry positions. Anand lives in Spain as it is convenient location to stay current with Chess - most "Seconds" i.e. top chess gurus, trainers are residing in that part of the world. This is a stressful game and he has found a way to go on with it. He has to be respected instead of being cross-questioned, even after his wife faxed all the passport papers.
The real story behind the screen goes like this During last election Congress offered him Rajyasabha seat and asked him to campaign for Congress. Anand polytely refused both. Since congress can not do anything with his game as he is playing on his own they took this opportunity to screw him,
Re: Re: Re: Politics
by Setu Madhavan on Aug 25, 2010 12:30 AM
Why is he required to take your permission? Let the govenment take care of those who are staying in INdia, instead of you wondering about those who are living abroad.
is to run a 2-minute check in passport office to check his current status. BTW, even if he were a Spanish nationality, what's wrong in giving a honorary doctorate to him? He's not going to apply for a lecturer's job in a government university.
Re: Fantastic Anand
by Vinod Kumar on Aug 24, 2010 09:16 PM
For People like Sonia , even though she was not ready to accept Indian nationality for 14 years, these congress chamchas ready to give Bharath Ratna,Recomondation for Nobel prize, on the other hand for our nationalist these junk congis asks questions and insult. Lets avoid congress from this country.Any party is OK, after all they are our Indians.
Italian nationality for Anand...... by
Rahul Dev on Aug 24, 2010 09:05 PM | Hide replies | Hide message
.....wouda fetched him many hinourable doctrates, even Bharat Ratna.
Poor, Anand, he ended up as south Indian born instead and paying the price.
But we love you Anand. You are as Indian as we all are.
Re: Italian nationality for Anand......
by mukaddim hussain on Aug 24, 2010 09:11 PM
How this sibal can say there is no such issue? liar. Can he punish those guilty (bearucrats) who created this controversy? Mr sibal, this is not over. U must punish those guilty. Only then, the issue will be over.
