Re: Rafale deal
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 07:17 PM
Is he an expert to know the price of Rafale fighter jets ? Do he have all the information about the deal ?
Re: Rafele cost
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 07:20 PM
Bedekar, How one can compare the final deal with the negotiation by the earlier government who inspite of number of years of negotiation could not complete and finalised the deal. No one has to say anything about the failure of the earlier government who for the reasons best known to them did not finalised the deal
Re: Re: Rafele cost
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Nov 16, 2018 08:15 PM
he is justified in comparing prices provided he has the details of the offers made to UPA and NDA. The NDA must prove that it got a better offer than UPA. That appears doubtful, if the author's data are correct.
Re: Re: Re: Rafele cost
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 10:02 PM
Did NDA finalised the deal ? Why they failed to complete the deal after negotiation for number of years ? The deal finalised by NDA can never be compared with failed negotiation data of UPA government . If UPA think thy could have got fighter planes at comparatively cheaper rates, why the deal was not completed under their regime ? Once having failed in this deal, they have absolutely no moral right to say anything about this deal.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rafele cost
by VENKATTACHALAM RAVEENDRAN on Nov 17, 2018 07:00 AM
the question is what prevented NDA govt to continue negotiation and conclude the deal instead paying exorbitant cost by adding some add on unilaterally.please explain
How can cost of FUEL, Lubricants and spares be part of 40years contract ??? When one buys a car does the company include the cost of petrol/diesel in the price ? This seems another scam if UPA had included the operating costs of fuel into the deal ??? Most ridiculous deal. What happens in case of war, for which these aircraft are purchased , will dassault pay for the ATF ???? Nonsense of an article by ajai shukla and rediff ....
Re: What a misleading article by ajai shukla ???
by Prakash Bedekar on Nov 16, 2018 05:20 PM
Modiji has not bought a car but a figheter aircraft and that too on early delievery and ready to fly condition. Only thing is delivery of 18 aircrafts is to be competed by 2025
Re: Re: What a misleading article by ajai shukla ???
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 07:24 PM
Have you done any business yourself ? and still you are discussing the price of Rafale jet without having any details for the same. Modi is PM and has number of defence experts at his service to guide and advice him. No one appreciate the fact that for the first time there is no involvement of any middlemen in this deal.
Why did the price increase. There are many reasons behind it. Atleast 2 reasons which people can clearly understand is 1. The UPA started price negotiation but did not confirm or buy so obviously the price increased as it was put in the agreement clause(it’s you plan buying a maruti car in 2010 but buy only in 2018. If cost of car was 2 lakhs in 2010 nobody will sell it for 2 lakhs in 2018 just bcos you planned to buy in 2010) 2, UPA plan was to buy rafale aircraft without any added accessories but NDA is buying fully loaded jet( there is a price difference between a basic model of maruti vehicle and a fully loaded ZD vehicle) Anti-nationals and Modi hater in REDIFF and Moron Ajai Shukla are misleading people and shamelessly bluffing.
Re: Re: Rediff and ajai shukla are misleading
by on Nov 16, 2018 04:48 PM
On the contrary it seems you are a peaxbrain. Just wonder how Ajai Shukla was able to see the pricing details which were submitted by Central Govt. to The SC.
Re: Re: Rediff and ajai shukla are misleading
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 07:26 PM
Oye ever stinking kaliye, do you find every one other than you with a peaxbrain ? What about your ever stinking, dirty, kaaaaali.........
Re: Re: Rediff and ajai shukla are misleading
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 07:28 PM
Do this kaliye komaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaali buffoon think that he know everything ? No one allow such stinking komaaalis to come near them forget giving any information. This komaaaaaaaaalis can continue their never ending kraaaa.....kraaaa....kraaaa....... only as per their habit.
Re: Rediff and ajai shukla are misleading
by Prakash Bedekar on Nov 16, 2018 05:24 PM
When you need something eargently it is obvious that you have to pay more, then again you have to favour your friend in need and you require fast delievery. Urgent delievery of aircrafts will be competed by 2025
Re: Rediff and ajai shukla are misleading
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Nov 16, 2018 08:18 PM
The agreed escalation figure was 3.9% per year of delay which was renegotiated to 3% by NDA. That still leaves the UPA pricing about 30% lower than NDA's . And according to Shukla, all the add ons, weapons , services were the SAME. If true then there is some explaining to do.
.... actually congress should be dragged to court for taking bribes from china to not finalize major defence deals and trying to give away arunachal pradesh to china.
Re: Chinese agents Congress
by Satyajeet Singh Yadava on Nov 16, 2018 03:57 PM
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Re: Chinese agents Congress
by Patriotic Indian on Nov 16, 2018 06:40 PM
In the history of the 70 years of Independent India, people have seen first time a opposition party who is working against the country. People have already pledged not to vote for congress till the time Gandy family exists in the party.
The most significant exchange during the SC proceedings was between the CJI and the IAF chief. CJI asked if there was no acquisition of new aircrafts since 1985 and the IAF chief replied in affirmative. Just imagine driving a 35 year old car on highways with modern cars whizzing past you. The IAF pilots must have had similar feelings. It was Vajpayee government which recognised the need and initiated the process some time in 2003 but UPA stalled acquisition till 2014. One can imagine why Modi had to abandon the whole process and make urgent acquisition. Congress is now trying to abort this also. The SC is seized of the matter and even when the matter is under their consideration the fake news bandwagon of congress chugs on merrily with Rediff a willing accomplice.
Re: rafale condrum
by piri on Nov 16, 2018 04:32 PM
The most significant information available in this write up is that the Dassault CEO, Eric Trapper, confirmed during the Feb 2015 Aero India show in Bangalore (just 2 months before komaaaali Modi cancelled the 126 Rafale deal between Dassault and HAL) that the price of the fighter in that deal remained the same as from day 1 of the identification of the L 1 bidder !
Now, chew on that and see whether you can attempt a spin on it !
Re: Re: rafale condrum
by P S SHAH on Nov 16, 2018 07:32 PM
Oye ever stinking kalumal, jobless, useless komaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaali Buffoon, why the party you blindly support has nothing to protest against this deal ? People like you who live in hutments want to give advice on a defence deal ?
Re: rafale condrum
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Nov 16, 2018 08:23 PM
What the Air Marshal forgot to mention is that even if there were NO imports of planes after 1985, we still got over 200 SUKHOI 30 manufactured in India. One of the best fighters in the world , even today. We don't have to look only at imports to get a feel of the IAF strength.
dear writer do you know technicality involved in the deal and why there is cost differance please rise above the understanding levels of petty politicians
Re: Re: rafle
by Naveen Haldhar on Nov 16, 2018 06:46 PM
show me a video where he said that every indian's would get 15 lacs in their bank account. This is the reason why congress enjoyed power for so long time, fools like you are easily convinced.
Re: Re: rafle
by Naveen Haldhar on Nov 16, 2018 06:47 PM
also when a person writing 15 lacs in full digits, it suggests how intelligent and active that guy is.
