America does not want a Russian assisted nuclear plant. So it chose to church to raise protests against the plant. The church, being an anti-national force, has played to the tunes of America without considering the national interests. And still we have church supporters here trying to defend the indefensible.
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Re: To sum up the situation
by onlooker on Nov 10, 2011 09:52 PM
Why don't prove it instead of just making allegations. When proved, simply start the plant instead of giving in to their demands. Shut the plant until then!
ndia, as a developing nation with more than 1 Billion (100 Crore) people needs the immediate solutions for the cost effective and scalable energy systems. The Nuclear Energy is one of the best suitable technologies for the same. The authorities have assured the best safety systems are in place for this plant. I feel that this is just the FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN for the common man. Government should take steps to educate them regarding this technology and the safety systems employed to safeguard the common man who lives in the outskirts of this plant. Also government should deal strongly and crush the trouble makers who have the vested interests in creating and spreading such agitations, against the national interest. If the safety of the people is the ONLY reason behind this agitation, then they should FIRST start the agitation against the motor vehicles. ( In the year 2010 ALONE, more than 12 Lakh people have lost their life in the motor vehicle accidents, worldwide. Whereas; if you take the maximum count of the same in the Nuclear Plant related accidents, it will not be more than 12 Thousand in the last 50 years of the nuclear energy plant operation history, worldwide). But we all know that we will not be able to live a normal life without the use of the motor vehicles in this world. Similarly, we need to effectively use, Nuclear Energy Plants with the maximum safety systems for our huge energy requirements. Jai Hind.
countries like france, Sweden,South Korea , Israel has more nuclear plants per populated areas than any other country. Energy starving states such as Tamil Nadu is much in need of nuclear power, sources such as solar wont produce energy in such large scale. As Dr Kalam rightly pointed all entities should stay away from 'inducing' fear. The ignorance of people about the safety of the plant can be annulled through proper education.
Social organisations and relegios groups should not misuse their liberty. This nuance can be seen parellel to the intiatives undertaken by catholic church such as 'encouraging couples to have many children' , besides 'Honouring families ' having more than 4 wards. In an overpopulated country like India this sounds anti national
Re: Inducing Fear
by Ajith Blr on Nov 10, 2011 09:36 PM
At the same I'm not discounting the contribution by church in the education and hospitality sectors
Re: Inducing Fear
by sanjay yadav on Nov 10, 2011 09:36 PM
you r correct Ajith...but please also the see saftey norms and conducts followed there..can our corrupt politicians will follow the strict safety codes..since insatallation of safety system is such type of plant is huge cost to company
Re: Re: Inducing Fear
by smrsraja on Nov 10, 2011 09:39 PM
There have been a number of unreported radiation leaks in this country. This is not Japan for politicians to apologize for accidents.
Re: Re: Inducing Fear
by smrsraja on Nov 10, 2011 09:40 PM
There have been a number of unreported radiation leaks in this country. This is not Japan for politicians to apologize for accidents.
Re: Inducing Fear
by onlooker on Nov 10, 2011 09:38 PM
This is parasitic mentality. Someone should suffer, and these guys should enjoy. This is prevalent in dark age mentality people.
the parish priest Father jaikumar should be considered as citizen of this coutry, he has the right to speak view about his thoughts,but he cannot give the opinion of the church. church involves many people.
secular priests have right interact with public matters, and give thier personal view.
but dont draw conclusions so fast that it would be from church and agitaion is funded by west.
Re: dont drag the church without knowing the meaning of it
by Hemanathan on Nov 10, 2011 09:37 PM
Why did not he raise this issue when Plant construction started rather obstructing everything at the end of preparation. He is not bothered about what other s saying. He rejected meeting offer from APJ. Im not concerned whether he has church backing or not. Timing of raising the issue is not good. If he had felt that this could bring disaster to the surrounding there, He should have raised the issue from the beginning.
Re: Re: dont drag the church without knowing the meaning of it
by TipTop on Nov 10, 2011 09:51 PM
he raised all these way back in 1988 when it started....
Re: dont drag the church without knowing the meaning of it
by lycoming on Nov 10, 2011 09:53 PM
Why is he using church computer?? If he is acting just as a citizen he should had followed the example of Chanakya!!
So address all the issues raised by Udaykumar first, instead of producing some certification from APJ or creating some conspiracy theories. Then we can look into if foreign hand is involved or not.
Re: Re: Safety concerns are valid
by onlooker on Nov 10, 2011 09:35 PM
First of all, I don't expect reasoning from SaffronCladSwami's like concerns Udaykumar raised. Prove me wrong!
Re: Re: Re: Safety concerns are valid
by prem k on Nov 10, 2011 09:51 PM
Either you dont read the article before commenting or your brain gets blinded by fanaticism of your religion. This is what the article says:
*When this correspondent asked Fr Jaikumar about his support for the protestors, he said, "I have to support whatever my flock desires."
However, most people feel that it is the other way round. For instance, the fishermen are protesting the plant because they say the parish priest has asked them to do so.*
This pretty much sums up jayakumars and udaykumars intellectual capability and the people like you that supports them blindly
Re: Re: Safety concerns are valid
by prem k on Nov 10, 2011 09:47 PM
yes... he would do it if it was a call by agnivesh - saffron-robed xian missionary
Re: Safety concerns are valid
by Just Fun on Nov 10, 2011 09:34 PM
After Dayakumar and a Nightkumar will raise issues.Get lost .No need to answer every Dom Duck and Hairy
The real issue is about the safety of people around the nuclear plant. When people are asked to take iodine pills or asked to evacuate, obviously they wont be thinking about development or energy security. People staying far away from the plant can say all that. Dont paint it wrong, simply because its opposed by christians or the church which you may not like. Give a thought to yourself what if its protested by hindus or any hindu outfits.
US and France are lobbying hard for selling more nuclear reactors to India and it would be foolish to think that they would be fueling protests against nuclear plants. If Koodankulam fails, US and France will be affected too.
Re: safety first
by Ajith Blr on Nov 10, 2011 09:21 PM
countries like france, Sweden has more nuclear plants per populated areas than any other country. Energy starving states such as Tamil Nadu is much in need of nuclear power, sources such as solar wont produce energy in such large scale. As Dr Kalam rightly pointed all entities should stay away from 'inducing' fear. The ignorance of people about the safety of the plant can be annulled through proper education.
Re: Re: safety first
by smrsraja on Nov 10, 2011 09:24 PM
this nuclear plant is not just to provide power to TN. Only a minimal percentage would be given to TN and rest is for other states. When the plant was first proposed kerala rejected it. TN accepted it in 1980s. If they ask for approval now, i believe no state will approve.
Re: Re: Re: safety first
by Vedprakash Sharma on Nov 10, 2011 09:28 PM
TN is part of India! Stop dreaming abpout craving a Tamil christiqn nation. LTTE is gone!
Re: Re: Re: safety first
by classical guy on Nov 10, 2011 09:28 PM
Are you an Indian? If so, then no TN, KL kind of stuff.. You should be out of electric power in your home while all should have it
Re: Re: Re: safety first
by Ajith Blr on Nov 10, 2011 09:29 PM
You are wrong , the primary consumer from the central pool will be the state itself not neighbouring ones. Kerala is begging around for power and finaly got in agreement with Orissa government to buy from there.
The opposition to the plant is very well induced , France Sweden , South Korea , Israel has more nuclear plants per populated areas than any other country. Genuine concerns about safety should be eardicated openly that is a must
Re: Re: safety first
by sanjay yadav on Nov 10, 2011 09:32 PM
you r correct Ajith...but please also the saftey norms and conducts followed there..can our corrupt will follow the strict safety codes..since insatallation of safety system is such type of plant is huge cost to company
Re: safety first
by Vijayalakshmi on Nov 10, 2011 10:38 PM
I think you are wrong.USA could not be able to supply reactors because the terms and condition of nuclear liability bill passed by Indian Parliament. As anticipated USA is not getting benefit from 123 agreements. Whereas France and Russia is getting full benefit. Naturally USA is upset and trying to block the benefit some way or other. France also may not be able to supply because they have not got the safety clearance for the new reactor so far.
Re: safety first
by Vijayalakshmi on Nov 10, 2011 10:39 PM
I think you are wrong.USA could not be able to supply reactors because the terms and condition of nuclear liability bill passed by Indian Parliament. As anticipated USA is not getting benefit from 123 agreements. Whereas France and Russia is getting full benefit. Naturally USA is upset and trying to block the benefit some way or other. France also may not be able to supply because they have not got the safety clearance for the new reactor so far.
countries like france, Sweden has more nuclear plants per populated areas than any other country. Energy starving states such as Tamil Nadu is much in need of nuclear power, sources such as solar wont produce energy in such large scale. As Dr Kalam rightly pointed all entities should stay away from 'inducing' fear. The ignorance of people about the safety of the plant can be annulled through proper education. BARC is much closer to the heavily populated Mubai
Re: Inducing fear
by Ajith Blr on Nov 10, 2011 09:18 PM
Also its regretable that the catholic church in kerala is involved in anti social nuances such as 'encouraging couples to have many children' , besides 'Honouring families ' having more than 4 wards. In an overpopulated country like India this sounds anti national. Church should look at the liberal klergy of west as their role models and not at the conservative peers of Philipines or latin America
Re: Re: Inducing fear
by arun kumar on Nov 10, 2011 09:28 PM
after osama bin laden and al-qaeda, the next biggest terrorist and organisation...the pope and the vatican should be hunted down for the benefit of humankind and ever lasting peace.amen...:) the church generated some of the biggest thieves...karunanidhi, kaanimozi, araja, sonia ,raul...list is endless..