These human rights activists are always destructive and hindrance in the progress of country. See another example Anuradhiti Roy is protecting the rights of Terrorists rather than innocent Indian citizens who are victims of terror.In gopal Krishan's case ,he wants underworld,culprits,anti nationals to be protected. In case govt issues UID nos to all citizens,every one can be identified on national levels.In case some body does crime,he can be identified in no time.The authorities will be able to differnetiate between Indian nationals and foreign terrorists(Particularly from Pakistan.-They look like Indians only).Why we have to listen to every tom dick and harry who is not interested in the progress of the country.Can he explain in which way the issuing of UID will effect Indian society and country adversely.
Re: Nanadan.............constitution
by Benjamin Kunder on Feb 06, 2011 08:03 PM
Yes Sri Sudhir,let us put some sense into their frozen mind. I agree with your comments.
'Nandan Nilekani is NOT subverting the Constitution'. He has been assigned a particular work. Every citizen is free to give his view. Finally Intectuals will decide. Give your openions, final decision is of theirs. We need not get spoled our heads, just because some one is opposing it in the population of 120 crore people. Thanking all for expressing their free openions.
Re: U I D
by Benjamin Kunder on Feb 06, 2011 08:07 PM
This project should have gone on stream years ago. It is a good project. Let us appreciate and back it. I agree with your comment Basavaraj.
Re: Re: U I D
by Secular india on Feb 06, 2011 03:46 PM
To understand it you needed to be literate. Any way it does not contain any data other then and voterid No. & photograph which can't be used to uniquely identify the card or the holder.
THE PROJECT IS GOOD. THIS WILL IDENTIFY LOT OF BLACK MARKETERS/ MONEY HOARDERS/. WE WANT FREE LOOTING OF INDIA WITH OUT ANU ID PROOFS. WE SUPPORT STRONGLY THAT ID SHOULD BE THERE AND IT SHOULD BE UNIQUE. THEN ONLY OUR NATION WILL GO FORWARD AND WILL BECOME SUPER POWER. OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE LOT OF RAJAS, KAKAS WHAT NOT TO LOOT THE COUNTRY.
All this halla about UID highly misplaced. In fact it is the other way around. Having no UID is convenient for criminals & other law breakers . Why an ordinary citizen should be afraid of any State in the world. Granted that State can harass ordinary citizens, can,t it without UID?
Re: UID Fobia
by DevD on Feb 06, 2011 01:39 PM
Yea right. So the politicians, who are all goody goody people, are bent on implementing UID so that all of them can go to jail and live happly ever after. keep on dreaming. UID is a tool for just those criminals who run our country. it gives them and their worldwide corrupt partners detailed access into the lives of people, so that they can steal, rob and kill much more methodically.
Having UID is like a you are in a company and you are identified as a individual there where You dont like the work or the policy or the pay or the manager but cant quit to join another company. But still having employee id is justified. Similarly having ration card is justified. Similarly having telephone number is justifed Similarly havving pan number is justified. So you see the pattern? And Id is needed whereever the below 4 are defined in a exchange transaction: party1, party2, commodity1, commodity2. Party2 in all above examples are a PART of YOU which needs a commodity. Party2 is never YOU as a whole. The moment you try to assign whole YOU as Party2, you need to define the other 3 things too for justifying an id. So I guess the commodity1 is freedom in case of uid ??
Re: UID definition
by Abhi Bhat on Feb 06, 2011 01:23 PM
But for sure, later on china and pak will thank nilekani for making this uid database for them.
gopal, for a second i accept ur point that UID is 1st step to create fodder for a futuristic naazification of our country, but aren't u talking about the intent of the project rather than process and use of its resultant.
we need a single form of identification for all citizens, there is not a single common document today which is available with all indians.
I hope your intent is right but you are pointing your finger in wrong direction, perhaps a better monitoring of governing bodies could check its misuse in future.
Re: small question for mr. krishna
by DevD on Feb 06, 2011 01:34 PM
I dont think gopal will respond to your question, but let me try. What mechanism do you suggest for a 'better monitoring of government bodies'...how do you stop scams like CWG, 2G and many others? how do you stop criminals from getting elected? how do you ensure government will traces its 'own black money' in swiss havens? dont you think the 'safeguards' should be in place before UID is implemented? or do you prefer to act only after the damage is done? that gives you the thrill, is it?
Re: Re: small question for mr. krishna
by santosh pawar on Feb 06, 2011 01:40 PM
stop criminal being elected is in hand of ppl like us. that is reason voting should be done by ppl .why cant same number in us is being used for corrupt ppl or bad use.
Re: small question for mr. krishna
by vinay kapur on Feb 06, 2011 01:28 PM
If some body wants a single number for his convenience let him apply and get it.Why make it compulsory?
Re: Re: small question for mr. krishna
by santosh pawar on Feb 06, 2011 01:37 PM
why are u worried about single identification numbers. it make life more easy for everyone. those who oppose it are worried because they fell their cheating business will stop after this project become succesfull.
Re: Re: Re: small question for mr. krishna
by vinay kapur on Feb 06, 2011 01:59 PM
Do you thing all the politicians, bureaucrats and corrupt businessmen do not have an identity.Will UID become compulsory for paying & accepting bribe?
if any database comes in the hand of bad people, there would be problem but that does not means that we should not have such database. UID is a very good project and would make many govt. schemes more systematic. defenitely the ppl who use it should be intelligent enough
Re: its a rubbish
by DevD on Feb 06, 2011 01:25 PM
you mean government schemes for corruption, looting and money laundering? what makes you think that the criminals who run our government and steal crores of rupees is interested in schemes for the poor?? and what makes you think these schemes cannot be tracked today??
OK. Here's my question: If UID is meant for tracking cheats and criminals, wouldn't the politicians be the first ones to be caught and put behind bars? Their trail or black money and scams will be the first things that will pop-out once UID is completed. Why would the politicians dig their own graves? They wouldn't. So who really stands to benefit from UID? I dont think I would be benefited, nor will any poor person, since there are sufficient number of ID mechanisms right now. What is lacking is a will to serve and help the poor. The only possible explanation for UID is that it is being designed at the behest of the american government, to whom Sonia & Co are on the verge of selling our country. And US would like to know who they are buying. what properties do they have. what is their religion. who is acting against US interests....and so on. There is no doubt that the UID, like many other things this government i doing, is a part of the 'sale process' to US. But look at the bright side. Very soon all of us will become AMERICAN CITIZENS !! Isn't that great !
Re: We will become american citizens very soon
by sasi kumar on Feb 06, 2011 01:34 PM
Hi, your correct buddy, but one thing, it will be come better growth for us. be indian!!!!!!!!
Re: We will become american citizens very soon
by santosh pawar on Feb 06, 2011 01:46 PM
do you think what system we have is sufficient . one person vote in mumbai again go back to his native in bihar , up ,wb, or any other state and vote again for state or central election . is it a true democracy . other countries who have such database what they do take case of china . they have more complex database than uid going to have, why chines ppl dont fear such thing
Re: Re: We will become american citizens very soon
by DevD on Feb 06, 2011 01:56 PM
hello, the EVM's themselves can be manipulated now, how does it matter who votes and where? besides they will never implement biometric scanning at poll booths...no political party will allow that 'cause everyone wants false votes.
