Born itelligent people of Bongala are never responsible for any thing negative. It has to be result of action by a Non Bong person. Mamata should leave no stone unturned to find out the real culprit for this sad happening. best luck to her to blame some one out of Bongala for this sorry state of affairs.
Re: Bongs Are Never Responsible for Bad Happenings
by Samantak Chakrabarti on Dec 09, 2011 10:53 PM
Only a moron like you can bring regionalism into this issue.
I am a resident of Kolkta and I can tell you that the hospital authority and employees of AMRI are fully responsible for the loss of so many lives. Hospitals and nursing homes of Kolkata are mostly run purely on profit motive. They have no feelings and no respect for the patients or patients' relatives. Most of the doctors and other support staff are corrupt, inefficient and heartless to say the least. They certainly don't deserve the money they are extracting from the patients. The doctor community in general has lost all credibility here. Good doctors are very few in number. Well mannered doctors are fewer in number.These people are arrogant,greedy and selfish in their approach towards the profession and also towards the society. I want strictest possible punishment for the owners, staff on duty and doctors on duty. Some local people belonging to poorer sections of the society saved a lot of lives. If they could be allowed to work more freely, they could have saved more lives. We feel proud of those bravehearts. We feel ashamed of those who get degrees at taxpayers' cost and then play with their lives without any bite of conscience.
Re: Punish these heartless doctors and hospital owners
by NEELAKANTAN R on Dec 09, 2011 10:18 PM
You may be partially right. But see the root cause of all these problems. The Government puts a lot of restrictions in increasing the postgraduate intake of the colleges, the results the seat goes on money offered. a man who soever he may be (including our politicians) are not here to serve the people by spending crores of his money. If you think that then you are the bigest fool on the earth. Why government hospital which get huge money do not get good doctors and specilist. Who is resposnsible for teh same. Further the Government has a lot of control mecahisums to regularly monitor the saftey aspects of the multistoried buildings. Why those people who ignored all these are not punished. as long as these government officeials do not get punished this sort of things will happen. That is what is the result of democcracy. Take the case of Uphar cinema tragedy. Finally what happend every body know. The total system including the juditiary is corrupt and outdated needs a through change. are we prepared for that?
Re: Re: Punish these heartless doctors and hospital owners
by Tinku Baidya on Dec 10, 2011 12:39 AM
Don't blame on Govt. Doctor profession is not like other profession. It's only for the service to the people, NOT FOR BUSINESS WHERE LIFE IS CONCERNED. Actually doctors (mostly) do not have any moral feeling, they assume it to be money earning profession only. They must be harshly punished, if faults are found
Re: Punish these heartless doctors and hospital owners
by Bhanu Prakash on Dec 10, 2011 08:23 AM
do not tell poor people are good. for money they do any sin. 95% of the goondas and hired killers are from poor community. Dont't you know this simple fact? Do not tell poor are good. It is baseless and senseless. good and bad are there among poor and rich.
Not a single person is arrested and punished under the Indian Law for last 65 years. Every one knows how to go around and get acquitted ! What happened to hospital FIRE ALARMS ! Where were the nurses and wardboys. Who allowed to stock the wastage in the basement. When was the last inspection by the Fire Inspector ?
All involved parties are responsible. - Hospital Management - Hospital Staff - Fire Department - Health Department
Officer who were suppose to make sure that rules are followed in construction of hospital and proper procedure are defined, all should be included with criminal charges.
Unless we start punishing everyone involved, we will leave the door open for lack of work ethics and responsibility. Specially in case of government officials who think it is their right to get bribe to give signature also should be hold responsible for lack of oversight when things go wrong.
Re: Responsibilities not implemented
by Bhanu Prakash on Dec 10, 2011 08:28 AM
except hospital management no one can be puhished. Fire and healt department have done their duty? Staff need not die for others, it is not their duty to save ohter on the cost of their life. These people can not be punished under any law in any country
avoid new ones,,,,had the corrupt been punished for uphaar cinema traedy and some hard example were put at that time,,,,things wud have been diff by time,,,,,,corruption comes with many consequences,,,believe it or not ,,,,we desperately need tough lok pal .....
If there are the management of AMRI to be prosecuted , then why spare the health minister of Bengal , Mamata Baannerjee ? Is it or is it not the responsibility of the health minister to ensure all adequate rules and regulations are adhered to ? If not is it not a lapse on her part ? Is she not equally to be blamed for the incident ?
Re: Disaster
by ohgandhi on Dec 09, 2011 09:59 PM
JatinsootiyaDas ! Ms Mamata and her govt took over few months ago. For last 35 years commiees ruled the state and you also voted for commiees. Commiees are responsible for such blunders. Give mamata the time to get into gear. Dont blame her for everything happens.
Re: Disaster
by Bhanu Prakash on Dec 10, 2011 08:32 AM
in this county this type of things happen and according to you no one can be in a minister in a state or central govt. They are not culprits and no law or no country can punish ministers for such incidents. It is foolish talk
When train accident takes place Rs. 5 lakhs are paid to dead. If Air crash takes place more than 50 lakhs are paid. Then why only 2 lakhs for this accident??? whether the life of bengali is so cheap?? When such accident will take place in sansad and all corrupts will be burnt alive. we, the people of this nation will pay 1 crore for each dead.
Re: Only Rs. 2 lakhs???
by Bhanu Prakash on Dec 10, 2011 08:37 AM
private hospital shoud pay for private accidents. Govt pays for trains because trains belong to govt. Airoplanes pay 50 laks because they d eal with rich people and they thing the life of rich is precious. What can you do for this? do not pay one crore to the sansad died. Bring down the govt which pays for that? Thsi is the same case for poor bengalis, gujaratis or tamils
The Marwari owners or the Bnegali politicians who allowed them to operate w/o adequate fire prevention / rescue protocols, the Bengali employees who ran away leaving the sick behind ?
Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Injun Abhi on Dec 09, 2011 09:41 PM
So Dev Gupta, pls tell me, if you were an employee would you run way or rs your life for the patients? Pls only judge people when you have the ability to do better than them.
Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Tilak Chakrobarty on Dec 09, 2011 09:53 PM
Just kick off these meros(Marwari) from the city. They are blood suckers. All these mero owners of AMRI have been arrested for unintentional murder. Is it unintentional? They are murderers of 89 people. They should hang till death..
Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Jitesh Agrawal on Dec 09, 2011 10:01 PM
yeah yeah along with they should also hang all those who sold off their self respect for few bread crumbs thrown at them and didnt do their duty.
sure you must be one of those thankless who must be working at one of such marwari's place and be thinking why doesnt he distribute everything to his employees????
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Jitesh Agrawal on Dec 09, 2011 10:33 PM
Leading IT MNC with senior position heading what..... house keeping and sanitation????? that is the kind of thought process you have.... which is this company which has got such racist on its rolls?????
Look at you and your fellow brothers who took bribes to look the other way of those marwaris were playing with lives.... its your fellow brothers who were working and drawing their salaries from those marwaris who ran away from the site leaving everyone to die and betrayed their employers...... have you got an iota of shame to answer those??????
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Tilak Chakrobarty on Dec 09, 2011 11:11 PM
Again you are getting personal my brother. See, I never asked what you do for living but you are keep asking me the same question. This is a small example of your culture. Housekeeping or Sanitation whatever I do, I can assure you, if you want, I can arrange a job for you in MNC. So that you don’t have to get involve in to your blood sucking business. Yes I am racist as I told earlier; I hate “meros” and if everyone start thing like me I feel we can have a better dustbin free society.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Jitesh Agrawal on Dec 09, 2011 11:24 PM
I will get personal because its you who started it.... I never asked what you do for your living, its you who bragged abt what you do..... and I need not seek jobs from you, I am proude to be a marwari.... "THE BIGGEST EMPLOYERS OF THIS NATION"...... you want one let me know, sure anyone would like to come out from leading janitors....... and you know as they say..... you should know you are doing perfectly good when people talk of you and hate you..... you are a looser who cannot stand to see anyone progressing and you cant match them.
Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by subho das on Dec 09, 2011 11:36 PM
@Tilak Chakrobarty... this meros jst made our entire state a dustbin.. they do business here, live here,eat here, & discriminates locals. now they hav got their newest partners biharis. in kolkata metropolitan area, these meros & biharis r multiplying in numbers, while bengalis are minority.
Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by Jitesh Agrawal on Dec 09, 2011 11:44 PM
yeah yeah its meros who made the world call your state "WASTE BENGAL"...... but for you marwari businessmens that state would had been one more bihar or probably somalia.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by subho das on Dec 09, 2011 11:57 PM
@Jitesh Agrawal... If we ask to leave this "somalia", could you plz? get out of our homeland along with ur bank balance.. u guys r not doing charity here ok? at the same time the discrimination u have done with our ppl, thats reminds me Sinhalese to Tamils & Pakistanis towards Bangladeshis... do you want us to treate u like Sinhalese? answer me.
Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by anup roy on Dec 09, 2011 11:30 PM
Mr. Dev Gupta, what happens to them? What happens to Behari employee, Hindi speaking Baniya employee, Hindi/Urdu speaking muslim employee or Marwari employee that 'ran away leaving the sick behind'?
Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by subho das on Dec 09, 2011 11:51 PM
the mob who first rushed into the hospital, were son of this soil.. they are bengalis... while the mero authority dint allow them into hospital initially. If those pride of bengal could, it could have been better scenario. where were these TODI, Goenka, Agrawal at that time??? these hindi ppl are paper tigers, they can only blame bengalis. but they forget, whatever they are earning,& sending back to their homeland, only bcz of bengali ppl.
Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by priyo sengupta on Dec 10, 2011 12:27 AM
mr chakraborty mr gupta and mr das r you all out of your senses? why bring regionalism when we should discuss the larger context of the problem rather than pin pointing a race who are our fellow countrymen n proud to be indians. Theres nothing to be patriotic or regionalistic here. Any ppl nearby irrespective of who they r or where they come from will come forward n help us during demanding situations.its a tragedy irrespective of what the race of the owners were. make some sense dont vent your regional outburst here we r indians ok not bengali or meros dont divide theres no difference between u n the british raj ppl.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by subho das on Dec 10, 2011 01:08 AM
@priyo sengupta.. its being 40 odd yrs.. we are practicing pan-indianism... but did we get any benefit out of that? whom do u think fellow countrymen, they spread hatred against u.. & rediff msg board is best example. come out of the shell of pan-indianism.. we are getting killed brutally everyday inside our own home, we are becoming target of racism,linguistic discrimination across this "great country"... take more 20yrs to learn, u'll remember my words... at that time probably West Bengal would be called as "Second Kashmir"... we liked to be a part of this country, but not as 3rd class citizen.
Re: Re: Re: Who is to be blamed for this tragedy ?
by niraj upadhyay on Dec 10, 2011 12:34 AM
Mr Das, i am a Hindi speaking non-Bengali, born and brought up in kolkata, who left Kolkata for employment reasons.... and i was very lucky to have friends from all communities, Bengali, Marwaari, Biharis, Chinese, Tamilian and even Bangladeshis..... what you genralise here is not true.
The Marwari community and the Bengalis have had an excellent relationship for hundreds of years and the basic reason for that is while the Bengali wanted to focus on the arts and intellect, the Marwari used his traditional skills in money and business management to ensure that demand for goods and services was met with supply, and that helped shape the economy of the state, gave a livelihood to people.... they never discriminated against locals in bengal, if anything bengalis discriminated against bengalis... after all it was the "intellectual bengali" CPM which ruled the state for years.... nobody stopped a bengali from setting up business.... nobody stopped a bangali from getting educated...
This hatred you preach is totally against the true bengali culture. Don't use the misfortune of some people create mistrust among communities and to let out your frustration.
