Israel during the last Lebanon war bombed the hell out of Lebanon by cluster bombing the Hizbollah terrorists. Terrorists only understand the language of terror. Violence is neccesary to control them, just as you need to do pest controll at home to kill and check the vermin pests, you need superior weapons to fight the terrorists. It is they who thrust the war on others and therefore they need to be routed and destroyed.
To fight the terrorists one should have superior weapons. On the night of 26/11 at Mumbai if one single cop was carrying at a matching weapon similar to AK47 there would not have been so many casualties. Those Countries who sign dont face the problems, what Israel, India face. Hell with the International opinion our Govt should do the best it deems fit for its citizens.
Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by Ashish Kumar on Jul 31, 2010 11:00 PM
If it is true that Terrorists only understand the language of terror then why is CBI hounding police officers and politicians in Gujarat.
Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by ratheesh raman on Jul 31, 2010 11:14 PM
i liked your rationale... but when seen that we are forced to do something which is against our principle of nonviolence, it hurts...but we dont have options either.
but ofcourse we can take a few steps in avoiding civilian casualities especially by using smart weapons (than just banning a class of weapons) which gets inactivated in a time bound manner.
i will not agree to the fact that Israel uses cluster bombs in populated are is not good...all the region is not filled by hizbollah...innocent children, women and several underprivilaged also gets killed. you are absolutely right the countries which denouces a particular class of weapons are not faced with catastrophe for being lackadaisical in defence (unlike what we have), especially the west who are late demmmons turned anngeels (all colonialists used brutal force), who once in a while take such cosmetic treaties...while being members of NATO. atleast a few countries who are victims like combodia, vietnam or Indonesia has more legible reasons.
Re: Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by doc on Aug 01, 2010 12:14 AM
the so called principle of non-violence has given us 1300 years of slavery and again moving towards the same. such dumb talk of nonviolence really sucks big time. peace is desirable but not at the cost of nurturing demons thats i think our philosophy teaches. and we became enslaved as we forgot this golden rule.
Re: Re: Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by ratheesh raman on Aug 01, 2010 12:54 AM
the problem with us is we speak of non violence while being weak...non violence policy needs lot of courage, for that you have to be strong both physically and mentality wise....
you can defenitely practice and to some extend enforce non violence just by being strong ...just like a strong police force keeps the society civilized.
so still we are not strong enough and courageous enough nonviolence is as you said 'dumb talks' only.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by Sanjay on Aug 01, 2010 05:33 AM
It is hypocrites who eat non-veg and talk non-violence that is the problem the people in government are not saints so such saintly philosophies don't suit them and they end up being hypocrites and having double standards. In no way they are nonviolent in life but hide under its grab to be cowards and their ultimate desire to loaf. Non-violence is just to cover their inadequacies. Beside a person so horrible mutilated can never be satisfied, and science proves this and the reason Gandhism failed and the country was partitioned.
Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by sarang mehta on Aug 02, 2010 09:03 AM
Wisely said!!! Today these guys want to ban this category of weapons...tomorrow they will say."lets ban automatic weapons of all types"...Are countries like India (Surrounded by hostile and primitive Hard-liners OR highly advanced untrustworthy countries)supposed to fight these highly motivated suicidal fanatics with stones??!! In fact, it would be a great idea to bomb the sweet crap out of the damned border areas on the Pakistani side... Make it a hideous killing field with Anti personnel mines and cluster bomblets with delayed fuses...That way the bloody insurgents will commit their Jihadi suicide on that side of the border, even before crossing over to India. We shouldnt be a part of this treaty. War is being thrust on us by these extremists and their hawkish masters. Its about time we give them more than just a bloody nose.
Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by HItler on Jul 31, 2010 11:15 PM
INDIA SHOULD PROCURE THIS CLUSTER BOMBS AND PUT IT IN POK IMMEDIATELY AND RECAPTURE OUR TERRITORY.
Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by sameer on Aug 01, 2010 02:09 PM
lebanon lost the war in all fronts you fool. they have simply did the mass murders under UN Cover for two without gaining any goals. and if they fight this time they will bite the dust indeed. what they have achieved with this war? do they release thier soldiers from hezbollah ? did they finished the resistance ? now you knew the myths of israel might merkel which indeed turned their coffins in bint jabeel battle
Israel during the last Lebanon war bombed the hell out of Lebanon by cluster bombing the Hizbollah terrorists. Terrorists only understand the language of terror. Violence is neccesary to control them, just as you need to do pest controll at home to kill and check the vermin pests, you need superior weapons to fight the terrorists. It is they who thrust the war on others and therefore they need to be routed and destroyed.
To fight the terrorists one should have superior weapons. On the night of 26/11 at Mumbai if one single cop was carrying at a matching weapon similar to AK47 there would not have been so many casualties. Those Countries who sign dont face the problems, what Israel, India face. Hell with the International opinion our Govt should do the best it deems fit for its citizens.
Re: India Should learn from last Lebanon war
by sameer on Aug 01, 2010 02:09 PM
lebanon lost the war in all fronts you fool. they have simply did the mass murders under UN Cover for two without gaining any goals. and if they fight this time they will bite the dust indeed. what they have achieved with this war? do they release thier soldiers from hezbollah ? did they finished the resistance ? now you knew the myths of israel might merkel which indeed turned their coffins in bint jabeel battle
Israel during the last Lebanon war bombed the hell out of Lebanon by cluster bombing the Hizbollah terrorists. Terrorists only understand the language of terror. Violence is neccesary to control them, just as you need to do pest controll at home to kill and check the vermin pests, you need superior weapons to fight the terrorists. It is they who thrust the war on others and therefore they need to be routed and destroyed.
To fight the terrorists one should have superior weapons. On the night of 26/11 at Mumbai if one single cop was carrying at a matching weapon similar to AK47 there would not have been so many casualties. Those Countries who sign dont face the problems, what Israel, India face. Hell with the International opinion our Govt should do the best it deems fit for its citizens.
Israel during the last Lebanon war bombed the hell out of Lebanon by cluster bombing the Hizbollah terrorists. Terrorists only understand the language of terror. Violence is neccesary to control them, just as you need to do pest controll at home to kill and check the vermin pests, you need superior weapons to fight the terrorists. It is they who thrust the war on others and therefore they need to be routed and destroyed.
To fight the terrorists one should have superior weapons. On the night of 26/11 at Mumbai if one single cop was carrying at a matching weapon similar to AK47 there would not have been so many casualties. Those Countries who sign dont face the problems, what Israel, India face. Hell with the International opinion our Govt should do the best it deems fit for its citizens.
Israel during the last Lebanon war bombed the hell out of Lebanon by cluster bombing the Hizbollah terrorists. Terrorists only understand the language of terror. Violence is neccesary to control them, just as you need to do pest controll at home to kill and check the vermin pests, you need superior weapons to fight the terrorists. It is they who thrust the war on others and therefore they need to be routed and destroyed.
To fight the terrorists one should have superior weapons. On the night of 26/11 at Mumbai if one single cop was carrying at a matching weapon similar to AK47 there would not have been so many casualties. Those Countries who sign dont face the problems, what Israel, India face. Hell with the International opinion our Govt should do the best it deems fit for its citizens.
Without having the knowledge of fully thinking the million variables as to why some countries choose not to: One of the biggest and strongest lobbies which has extreme close ties with the defense folks of leading ammunition countries are the weapon manufacturers. Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin and local companies in these countries which rakes billions of USD and passes it to these giant buyers will obviously gang together to save themselves. This has happened before too and the UN has failed as the few people (in power) will never let it happen. Consider nuclear energy - all knows it is there and many firms have built it but government's taxes will go significantly low if wide-scale adoption happens - on the hindsight that can save global warming but no enforcements. Seen Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth - another parallel - lobbies deny the obvious. Unfortunately, this is the world and will continue and another good Shah Rukh blitz will attract more blogs than this. All are aware that any large companies neutralize these decisions by forming cartels through the government relation execs they employ.
Re: Common Man's Perspective
by ratheesh raman on Jul 31, 2010 09:05 PM
but can you blame a war on the weapon manufacturer...it is my (foolish) beleif that it is our instinct to vie for power and it creates war...i dont think it is easier to reign in the instict especially considering that because of the R&D in weapons science and tech has grown enormously with active state funding...
similarly about the nuclear energy...it is not so clean as you mention. the radio active waste where will dispose off...if it is adopted in worldscale, many of the waste will have radioactivity for 10000 years or so...you cannot store them anywhere and communicate it to a future generation(if they are lucky to visit earth) about where you kept the material.
fusion brings less radiowaste but it is atleast 30-50 years from being utilized ...we dont have the know how of contained and sustained fusion so far.
Recently Sri Lanka used all kind of weapons including cluster bombs. India was one country that supplied weapons to Sri Lanka. Ironically, India is the country that preached Satyagraha and Non-violence to the whole world. Again Buddha was born in India and who shun war and became a sanyasi, after seeing the death of people in a war. Sri Lanka is said to follow the teachings of Buddha. To-day, both India and Sri Lanka are rejoicing over the death of thousands of Tamils in Sri Lanka. Sonia who was born and brought of in Italy may not be knowing the cultural past of India. But atleast Mr.Singh, the PM should have appraised her of what Mahathma stood for. But he says that he gave weapons to Sri Lanka for self defense as though such weapons may not make any offense. In UN also, India protected Sri Lanka. Our Tax payers money is also being donated to Sri Lanka. May be it is a part of wages for killing Tamils. Even after death, Rajiv Gandhi has done many wrongs to India.
Re: India - It is Mahathma's land
by Ramachandra N on Jul 31, 2010 08:43 PM
hahahAHAHA, Karuna, when LTTE was killing, where was the Combined effects of Buddha Gandhi Ashoka and who else? Were they not either Indians or Lankans? Rules apply to both sides. How could they use a woman that too who bowed to RGandhi and then killed him? Pl donot preach what u dont practice.
Re: Re: India - It is Mahathma's land
by AlphaQLanka on Aug 01, 2010 09:53 AM
Tell one incident where LTEE killed innocent Singhalese in their whole of 36 years of freedom struggle. Even the May 10th 2009, they released POW from Lankar army and you read those soldiers interview how LTEE treated them. Don't talk without understanding their freedom struggle.
Re: India - It is Mahathma's land
by Venugopalan on Jul 31, 2010 05:27 PM
they can also get the cluster bombs from China, nd pakistan if India fails to give them...
Re: India - It is Mahathma's land
by varghese on Jul 31, 2010 07:44 PM
LTTE killed much more Tamils and Sinhalese than the Srilankan forces...Indian PM was also eliminated by the same LTTE..Every Indian should rejoice in the killing and elimination of the LTTE..civilians die in cross fire and hence no one can either support them or stand for them..every nation has to bear this loss..this is the cost of being being there at the wrong time..war is sad but getting killed by terrorism is horrible..lets be happy at the elimination of LTTE in our neighbourhood..
Re: Re: India - It is Mahathma's land
by northie on Aug 01, 2010 07:16 AM
are you saying terrorism is bad (i agree) but discrimination is okay. Arbitrary taking over of tamil owned land, arbitrary arresting, where is india to stop that when india stopped them fighting back. It is only fair we fight to give them equal rights , especially since we are not allowing them to fight for themselves.
Re: Re: India - It is Mahathma's land
by AlphaQLanka on Aug 01, 2010 10:01 AM
LTTE was fighting aginst the state sponsered Terrorism that involved both Lanka and India. In the histroy of Eelam struggle for equal rights, only 36 years were fought with weapons and the remaining 25 yeras were fought with non-violence and the so called Gandhian way. The Gandhi country has not given any respect for the non-violence struggle. The enemy decides what kind of weapon the freedon fighters should use. It was not their interest to use weapons for getting equal rightes. All the other options failed very badly due to Singalese Chauvinism.Then, they started using guns
the parrot from across the border fed on biryani will be parroting their lines for next few minutes. a democratic and free nation allows such retards to live what they imagine to be a life.... alas this try to divide indians policy will backfire just like in the past.... lets find some other race course where another general of pak will lay down his stars at the feet of indian jawan :P ....
now pls collect free biryani packets n disperse to tora bora ;)
