Why Kashmiris could not listen to the cries of Kashmiri Pandits 20 years back and until now....
When all can hear and remember the cries of innocent children killed, why cannot they hear and remember the cries of innocent children, women and men of Kashmiri Pandits. Where were they that time....were they blind, deaf and dumb. Or did they choose to look the other way because the Kashmiri Pandits are Hindus.
I feel sad for the killing of the children and loss of human lifes, but at the same time I feel bad for the kind of perplexy and blindness the people of kashmir valley are living in.
May be its time to realise for them or they have lost the time and moment.
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Re: Paradoxy of Kashmiris...
by ganesh on Aug 14, 2010 12:10 PM
how could muslims listen when pandits left...pandits shud have faced there,,come what may happen..u cant expect muslims will fight for ur rights and u will enjoy outside state..learn to fight urself
Re: Re: Paradoxy of Kashmiris...
by One Liner on Aug 15, 2010 10:03 AM
How can minority survive if the majority kill them. Do you think Muslims in the rest of India will survive if Hindus will act like What Muslim Kasmiris did to the Hindu-Kashmiris? (Dont worry you-know and I-know Hindus will never do that except for temporary aberrations)
Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by sara bano on Aug 12, 2010 10:20 AM
He said Sameer had requested Rs 5 for purchasing toffees but received only Rs 2. After few minutes, Sameer returned to his house asking for Rs 10 to purchase pears from a street vendor for the family. “ He gave us the pears and said he will leave for his cousin’s house at nearby Elaichi Bagh to play carom. I told him to go through lanes as curfew was in place. His mother gave him a pear and he left happily promising to return before evening,” he said.After few minutes, Fayaz said people took to streets saying the troopers had killed a child. He telephoned his brother to inquire if Sameer had reached his house. But before Fayaz could say anything, his brother told him to take care of the children as a boy had been killed.“ I realized that Sameer had not reached there. But I could not dare to tell my brother that Sameer was out of the house fearing he will be worried,” he said. Without realizing even in his wildest imagination that the victim was his child, Fayaz says he rushed out. Some people told him that the police had taken the body to Police Control Room.Fayaz said he heard some youth from adjoining localities saying that the boy’s head „ was smashed with a stick by the troopers in a lane without any provocation. “ They said after he fell down on the road, around seven troopers trampled his chest and continuously hit him with bamboo sticks till he fell unconscio
Re: Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by One Liner on Aug 15, 2010 10:14 AM
Sara Bano, thanks for writing the ground news as it is. But it beats me that parents would send a child on the road when there is curfew as much as it astonishes me that police would kill a child. Any sane police would not do it. First of all - it is against basic humanity. Second it is against basic sense because no one is going to appreciate their killing a small child and they pretty well know that such killings would not bring them any good. So only people who would get the benefit with death of the child is separatists. So I strongly suspect that the child was killed by Pak-sponsored separatists to incite more violence - So please do not fall for these tactics - please see through the game by Pak.
Finally - may it be anyone who killed the child (intentionally) may burn eternally in hell
Re: Re: Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by ganesh on Aug 16, 2010 12:41 PM
its a wll established fact dear one liner that the child was beaten till death by the FORCES>.i feel shame to call them SECURITY FORCES..its a misnomer..better to call them "MAN EATERS"
Re: Re: Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by abhishek vats on Dec 17, 2010 03:18 PM
Madarsa loigic. There is no heaven or hell as such. Everything is here. Think before you write.
Re: Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by ashish katke on Aug 12, 2010 02:35 PM
Hi... Sara bano...the situation on streets of kashmir is not peaceful. Why did the parents of this child allow their child to go out of the house in a curfew in the first place. And why there are no confirmed reports (media is free in India even in Kashmir)but just versions from different people. Why is that only young/children are dying in large numbers. Or is it tht the task of "Azadi" has been given to children and parents are enjoying toffees and pears at home. Lets be clears troopers of any country are taught to kill in a battle like situation. Why are you confronting men with guns when men with words/political packages (read media & state/central govt.)are their available. Now I don't approve and I totally condemn kills of childern under any cause. I would suggest if kashmirs have demands study our indian independence struggle how people under Mahatma Gandhi struggled. Under wht principles and ideals independence/azadi was achieved. If you study well u will find how futile ur struggle of stone peddling and putting your own childern at risk is. You will also know if you give peace and progress a chance today India is the best place to be! I am proud to be an Indian will its limitations its a land of eternal hope and peace. So u should be also be proud of being an Indian & help ur government to help you to live in peace, prosperity and dignity. If you sough violence you will reap violence, if you sow peace you will reap
Re: Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by abhishek vats on Dec 17, 2010 03:10 PM
Anyone with half a brain should not send her child outside during a curfew. Its the mother's fault, not the forces.
Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by army airforce on Aug 12, 2010 03:47 PM
Ms. Sara Bano, all this is happening due to some greedy peoples, All the killings, unrest Kashmir is due to their leaders are getting money from outside enjoying their life. People act as puppet in their hands, lost their life just for few rupees they are ruining the life of those who don't have anything to do with stupid politics, AZADI n Pakistan. They need peace and two time meals for their family.
Its all obvious in such of situation people will lost their lives, security forces don't want to kill any one, but they are doing their duties, when any militant is killing a child, women or men they why don't you agitate and why don't you get together to fight with them and through them out of your place.
But you want to through them out who are their for your security, not thinking about their life and their family.
People like you are greedy and selfish thinking about themselves.
Put your feet in their shoe and feel what they feel.
Re: A column from greater kashmir....
by biswa on Aug 12, 2010 06:03 PM
Bad thing might happen when army rules comes. We have to restraint.Support peace .Few Kashmiris always support terrorists,else in Punjab terrorism finished in 2-3 years why it has taken a decade in Kashmir. People are taking flag of pakistanDo u belive that Kashmiris will b happy with Pakistan flag,who have 99.9% terrorists on its own land.Pakistan should be renamed as Nastystan.We are all Indians,we are ashamed of kiling of a 9 year old simple heart.But Kashimr is no 1 in corruption.Look at this.
Part-I: - I am and Indian who believes in Secular and inclusive 'Akhand Bharat'. If India is a vibrant and progressive country that is because it was conserved by well informed and well thought of ideas and principles. It’s a country based on truth, 'Satya Meva Jayate'. When truth is lost or obscured it leads to chaos. That is what is happening in Kashmir. Truth is Kashmir is a legal, legitimate and integral part of India since times in memorial, Pakistan is a ill conceived country based on half truth at best and complete lies at worst so it is having problems and is a problem to the whole world. Truth is we Indian are very lackluster in dealing with threats to our country whether Maoist, Kashmir, religionalism or external threats. Central govt should be like a school principal, should set right examples for the country, care and nurture all countrymen equally and if anybody is not obedient should address the root cause, talk & connect give them justifiable time still we have spoiled brats be tough with them or simple through them out. That is where Indian govt is failing miserably in every walk of life..CWG is the latest example! Truth is also that Pakistan is illegally occupying a portion of our sacred land in J&K we should get it back in the best possible way and make continuous effort for the same (‘Tension lanaka nahee danaka’, India ko seekna padaga, this is true realpolitik!). See Part II as w
Re: Kashmir: A simple problem streched like a rubber-band!
by Ramesh Sinha on Aug 11, 2010 10:22 PM
hahah...Ashish Katke..u are living in a total illusion. Govt as headmaster ? What about the concept of freedom and democracy ? If you need to have 5 lakh troops in a piece of land, you ARE forcibly occupying it and just like we got freedom from British, anyone who demands freedom from govt has a right to protest and you cannot shoot like a happy trigger. Bullet take life.
Re: Re: Kashmir: A simple problem streched like a rubber-band!
by ashish katke on Aug 12, 2010 01:27 PM
Hi, Ramesh Sinha, u got my message wrong...We all educated plp know the importance of a good headmaster/principal at school, he is a father figure... Not a person taking away our freedom & Democracy. If wht u say is true then students in schools and college are suppressed guys then! And to answer 5 lakh troops in J&K, or troops on the highest battle field its a compulsion for our country... See the audacity of our neighbour still they did a kargil on us while they were talking peace and bus services tht time! Anyone who demands freedom in a democractic India is misinformed. He/she is like is a spoiled child to a father/mother or a difficult to handle student to a headmaster... Every father/mother or headmaster knows how to hanlde is pupil!
Re: Re: Kashmir: A simple problem streched like a rubber-band!
by Raman Kohli on Aug 14, 2010 02:07 AM
Sinha, read about Nizame Mustafa and Pan Islamic Movement and then give sermons about democracy, freedom ?
If it was for freedom and democracy POK would have been burning now ? Think you gullible desi, giving sermons from your living room is easy.
Finally people of kashmir has come on road and mourning for their dead one but has any one ever thought of this there were thousands of Hindu kashmiri family who use to live their and who have been slaughtered by them like cows and goats, they were forced to leave their home where they spent their life, they killed and molested young girls on the name of jahad and their so called azadi. i believe that even after recieveing the education these poople still live in the same era from where they have started. they have always taken a disadvantage of being minor community. AND today when they going thru hell they are realizing the pain and agony which is nothing in front of what hindu family has gone thru.
Re: Political Game
by robin eliyas on Aug 26, 2010 06:23 PM | Hide message
Everyone from India, Pakistan and rest of the world must understand the following: 1. When Pakistan fails the war with India their army and ISI uses terrorism against India to win their interest. 2. When they failed to create trouble in Punjab (India) they targeted Kashmir. 3. When western countries ignored ISI role over terrorist, all world facing problem. 4. When CIA & ISI sponsored Talibans during Russians occupancy in Afgan, They failed and paying now. 5. When india faced terrorr attack in 80' & 90's, western and USA treated that internal problem (actually not). 6. After world trade centre americans realized, but totally ignoring ISI and now paying the life of their ARMY mens at Afgan. 7. India is a secular country even though majority is hindus, and still other enjoying equal status and freedom. 8. India cant create a state based on the religion, if Kashmir peoples (may be only few % of Muslims) they can easily go to POK and they can enjoy freedom if available.
9. Now only solution ignore these idiot terrorist and Bloody separatist and work hard and bring that old days to KASHMIR. 10. Love your family and learn to love our mother land irrespective of religion. 11. All countries have their own agenda. so don't listen others voice that actually killing your own country and your family.
Plz,try to recognize. U judge urselves. Don't listen my word but ask urselves. You will get ur answer. You have become 'sauda' of outsiders. Being a peaceful race, how u've turned urselves to stone-pelters. Why!!!??? Till 1989, how u & ur superiors lived in peace & harmony--u were 'heaven on earth'. For what purpose, u started pelting..
Re: Kashmir Problem
by Ramesh Sinha on Aug 11, 2010 10:25 PM
kashmiri Pandits are 10% of population in valley. You are concerned about 10% but cannot see that 90% are being held under constant curfew and even gunned down for protesting.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Kashmir Problem
by sara bano on Aug 13, 2010 01:21 PM | Hide message
No, i feel happy to mention names of few hindu indians who are humans like ARUNDITI ROY, KARAN THAPAR and SWAMINATHAN...they hace a live conscience...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kashmir Problem
by Walli Allah on Aug 13, 2010 08:36 PM | Hide message
Tabliban, LET, JEM, wahabis, deobandis and Osama....all are bloody humans slaughtering humans.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kashmir Problem
by eijaz on Aug 14, 2010 04:30 PM | Hide message
BJP, Shiv sena, VHP, Bajrang dal MNS are inhumans, illitrates, Playing politics on the basis of religion & region, caste & creed. Shame on u
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kashmir Problem
by ganesh on Aug 16, 2010 12:45 PM
i agree ejaz bhai
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kashmir Problem
by ganesh on Aug 16, 2010 12:44 PM
at least u are not ahuman walli allah(fake ID) becoz evry human today speaks of human rights voilation in kashmir..learn smthng from "arunditi roy" and "karan thapar"..
Re: kashmir struggle is big hoax
by ashish sinha on Aug 10, 2010 09:02 PM
pakistan had tried in vain in 1965 also.. but kashmiri were loyal to India and let pakistani forces down.... since then what happened dear kashmiris ?
Re: Re: kashmir struggle is big hoax
by Ramesh Sinha on Aug 11, 2010 10:27 PM
upied by soldiers? Pakistan created problems but now its mainly a popular sentiment by local people that they want self-rule and freedom from Indian Govt
