What was the reason for one Engineer from Banglore to burn to death in the failed Glasgow Airport b0mbing? What harm was done to thim by the people of UK? On the other hand they had given him an opportunity to study in their country and better his prospects and what reward was given by him in reutrn?
What was the reason for the s0n of a wealthy Nigerian businessman (Abdulmutallab) to attempt blastiing an aircraft in USA during last X'Mas? Now that has resulted in USA profiling travellers from 14 countries!
Why muz1im youth from Kerala has gone all the way to Kashmir to fight with our Armed Forces? What have they got to do with the so-called Kashmiriyat, the protection of which Kashmiris are fighting? Why Kashmiri sepatarist leader, YasinMalik married a PakistaniGir1? Could he not find a KashmiriGir1? Then where is his Kashimiriyat?
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 07:50 PM
it is only id10t like you who will have pride for land. muz1im find pride, in honesty, justice, righteousness and human values...whats wrong if some one marries a women from other country or race, region...and just dont understand, who did give rights to you mindless people to dictate people whom to marry and whom not to marry? interfering into other personal life only a nut case like you can do.
Subramanium Chandrashekhar married an american and remained there. Alisha Chenoy married a non-indian, Advani's niece married a muzalmaan and there are so many leaders even in BJP who did not marry at all. do you question the personal life of all these people also or what?
KASHMIRIYAT...? what about kashmiriyat, there is nothing special about this. character and greatness of the human kind is still measured on his/her righteousness and God fearing character...if someone is fighting for the justice in his land, it doesn't mean that he will not marry outside his land..?
i suggest you, stop blaming others and have some eyes when ever you see something in the name of news, most of the time it is just a hoax and rumor to get more clicks and just to create and play with the emotions of you type fools...
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:01 PM
as far as fighting is concerned, every one says to fight. which system says not to fight? your money oriented CAPITALISM, or COMMUNISM, or your lovely FAKE DEMOCRAY? do they say not to fight? if so why they do have armies? every one fights as a matter of fact, some fight for justice some to oppress. those who are in power always malign the fight for justice with so many names and today TERRORISM is one name coined very nicely by the thieves of the world....
if fighting is necessary, then again religion is the best tool to motivate for fighting as it imposes rules too for fighting. whenever muzalamaan have fought, they have always maintained the code and rules of war and have never killed weak, innocents, kids and old people...they only fight against those who fight against them....it is your love NATO armies who go and rape women and fool people and attack on the countries and claim that they are helping....only fools like you will believe this....
yes: MAN WITHOUT RELIGION IS LIKE AN ANIMAL JUST CAME OUT OF WILE JUNGLE.
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 07:17 PM
you are picking up incidences. may i ask where was this terrorism before last 15-20 years. Izalaam has been standing upright for the last 1400 years without bowing down before any tyrant like USA or any other countries. its guts were always praised and were made an example of inspiration but when this world becomes full of thieves and dishonest man like you, the same effort becomes a terrorist act.
Umar Mukhtar fought against Mouslini's aggression and was taken as jihad in the path of freedom fight, but today it was too called as terrorism. Abdul Hameed fought against pakistan and saved india but i have seen some beggarBloggers like you calling him also terrorist...
Afghanistan was fighting against russia for long, was that not terrorist? just because it was in the favour of your illegal father USA, not it is terrorism but the fact is they are fighting against illegal occupation same as before...
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by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:43 PM
Golden, you are indeed a true muzs1im as you are using the choicest abuses for the kafiiirs. A111ah will reward you with seventytwo things without h0les and twentyeight hair1ess b0ys for abusing the kafiiirs!!
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:24 PM
i did nto abuse any one and yes your taunts are sure abusive. but it doesnt affect us any more..we have more global and important issues. if you types can hinder us by your abusive words then we shall go astray....our goal is clear and khilafah is going to come which will end all the opppression for every body, and true humanity and equality will reestablished...
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by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:30 PM
Pl go thru your messages and find out how many times did you use worlds like "d10t" etc!!
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 07:13 PM
i have closely followed that sequence and have also visited to the Glasgow Airport. and dont try to twist the fact first of all...it was not a bombing, just ALLEGEDLY he tried to blast the airport by the use of two house cooking cylinder...i just dont know how many of you types might have been fooled. I am an aeronautical engineer and can easily understand how much blast these cylinders can make. fortunately that man too was an aeronautical engineer. and all these were just planned loosely and executed well to fool the people like you...my very first point...
second thing....: how much you know the international affairs and how much do you understand the international politics.
thieves continously looting your house by putting their stooges in the top position of your house (fake democracy help in it), and when ever they want they will kill you in chechanya, kashmir, palestine, afghanistan and iraq, then it gives sufficient reason for getting angry furious and raged....but some arrogant devils who will deny the truth at any cost like you will still argue, what UK has done to muslims....
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by nabiahamed on Apr 02, 2010 07:27 PM
A person who is in power labels others as "terrorist" Britishers named 'bhagat' as terrorist we called him freedom fighter. Britishers when they ruled america the called 'George Washington' no 1 terrorist after became independent he became the president(how can a terrorist become president) And you know what happened to Nelson Mandela, he was in prison for record no of years, later you gave him a Nobel price for peace. Those who have the power of media, money, military can label any one as 'terrorist' 'holy war' but truth will prevail.
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 07:55 PM
as far as religion is concenred, it is still the best tool to make a man human. it defines humanity and gives rules to keep the society on the right path and instills a fear in the heart to maintain the law and order in the society...
religious people dont drink,dont gamble, dont cheat, give charity. people living for this world and care nothing about the God and religion, drink enjoy, lie, cheat, and do all sort of misdeeds as this life itself is the once and last time for them. so they keep on doing all the things which are totally wrong for a human to do...so they break the rules and laws and deceive people. they exploit and loot and malign people just to take illegal advantages... still you cant find the difference between religious and non-religious people?
in fact on rediff we have seen one article long back that religious people are more nice, and human lovers than the one who live for this worldly life...
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by nabiahamed on Apr 02, 2010 07:54 PM
You cannot judge the religion with single incident/person. If it is so then in every religion you find terrorist. If you want to judge Islam then come and know about what Quran the holy book preaches, and i challange you can't make out a single guidance which is against humanity.
Re: Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:44 PM
Your b00k is full of absurdities, contradictions, hatred, violence, etc. It is not even worth discussing.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:29 PM
izlaam never contradicts with vital truths and confirmed facts. only some hypothesis can go against izalaam otherwise science has only proved what Izlaam has done long back..
your rhetoric has got no solutioon...your hatred is killing you day by day...without any proof and evidences you just abuse and allege...you have learned from your fathers in USA who are nothing but pure thieves..i dont mind, you can keep talking rubbish..those who love truth, and justice and logics are already with us....they are embracing very fast...
Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 07:44 PM
you are cunning enough to just to blame and pick the wrong points....you are giving examples of Abdul Mutallab or what ever may be. you are talking about his son, cant you see the greatness of this muzalaamaan man who just introduced the authority about his son despite knowing that he can be torutred, manhandled and even be killed by these USA thieves...you dont see this greatness of this muzalmaaan right, but you can easily see the alledged person...
as far muz1ims joining jihad in Kashmir is concerned, why cant a brother help other brother if he is being wronged. did not india ask help from Hit1er during freedom fight? JC Bose took help from Hit1er and even indian army fought against AzahHindFauj during second world war...what will you call JCBose? a traitor or a patriot who took help from Hit1er and killed so many indian soliders who were fighting on the britishers side?
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by sri on Apr 02, 2010 09:53 PM
The father did a great job and I commend him. But what you are doing is talking about brotherhood with people who are killing Indian soldiers in kashmir. If the LeT and kashmiri terrorists are your brothers as you say than how can you be consider yourself Indian? Dont confguse JC Bose with Subhas Bose and dont confuse what they did with what the terroists are doing. Bose fought for India and Indian integrity.
Re: Re: @ Golden - are these examples of goodness of Religion?
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:35 PM
Golden, no Indian citizen (cinludingmuzlims) from any other part of India can buy a piece of land in Kashmir. Then why muz21ims from Kerala were fighting in Kashmir?
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by sri on Apr 02, 2010 09:57 PM
This pan-islamic brotherhood that Golden is talking about is the main problem that the world faces today. That is what makes Bin Laden claim that muslims of Palestine and everywhere else are his responsibility and kills the infidels for them. Indian muslims should consider themselves Indian first and foremost. Just as Hindus should consider themselves Indian first.
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by sri on Apr 02, 2010 10:00 PM
Avinash, they are two different issues too. Indians cant buy land in Kashmir becasue of what Nehru did and it is not the fault of the muslims entirely. The fact of muslims fighting in Kerala - nown that is the problem of pan-islamic brotherhood that the world is facing everywhere. The identification with muslims of other ethnic or national origins is what makes the problem.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 09:50 PM
again you are not able to come out of the streotype you have in your RSS sakha classes...
first of all try to understand the facts about religion and region....region wise there has been some agreement and promises which were made to kashmiri people...and if my brother is in pain, then i must help him. no matter what conditions he has with the govt...kerala people are going to help kashmiris without any condition and greed. and thats the selfless character izalaaam creates....people just get raised up above their personal gain and selfishness..
people have even gone to help afghanistan and iraq and palestine who are entirely a different countries...but from the core they all are brothers...
entire muzlamaan community of the globe is like one body. if there is a pain in the leg, hand cures it. it doesnt mean that hand will ask the place of leg and go and sit there...
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by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:53 PM
Then why there are seventy three sects? Some of them blasttt each other also!!!
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:41 PM
sects will be there and you know these 73 because hadith is there. otherewise you are too ignorant to even look into the authentic books and try to search the truth...
the existance of hadith itself tells that sects will be there and there is nothing new you are telling to me..and it is not important that how many sects are there...what is important is, is the religion and holy books supporting sects formation or they are talking about the unity...just look into the books ofyours and ours you will find the difference...
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by sri on Apr 02, 2010 09:57 PM
This pan-islamic brotherhood that Golden is talking about is the main problem that the world faces today. That is what makes Bin Laden claim that muslims of Palestine and everywhere else are his responsibility and kills the infidels for them. Indian muslims should consider themselves Indian first and foremost. Just as Hindus should consider themselves Indian first.
Let him be appointed to investigate criminal and disproportionate assets cases against Mayawati, Mulayam and Lallu. We will see the fun then. It is always easier to target rationalists and nationalists.
Re: And
by subramanyasastry hoskote on Apr 02, 2010 05:51 PM
I think the first religion is found by_the_crossed_man and the second one who seems to be a pervert!
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:08 PM
if you think that you are a better than those who are fighting for the justice and freedom for their land,just because you are like a savage animal. i have no problem...
but still WITHOUT RELIGION, MAN IS LIKE A SAVAGE ANIMAL and we need religion to correct him and keep him on the right path...
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by subramanyasastry hoskote on Apr 02, 2010 08:19 PM
I do not why you are supporting j0h0dis while your posts are quite reasonable. Did I say that all muslims are j0h0dis? I would not be alive now if all muslims were to be j0h0dis.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:33 PM
we keep blaming, Pakistan, North Korea, Iran and so many others for terrorism. infact any one who is not ready to bow down before USA thieves, are easily labeled as terrorists...
but how many of you know that there is only one country which has been ACCUSED, TRIED and CONVICTED for the terrorism in THE INTERNATIONAL COURT and then that thief country got away saying that I AM NOT ABIDE TO OBEY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT.....
please do guess the country and if you cant then just search in the google you will get it...
that country is a real thief country and every one knows him but keep quite for some vested interest. we just kill the honesty and justice to take illegal advantages...shame on such people...
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:27 PM
first go and have the meaning of Jihad itself...there is nothing wrong in simply saying FIGHTING..it is the reason of fighting which makes fighting right or wrong..and I am supporting those who are doing jihad and rejecting those who are doing Terrorism (which is called fasad in Izalaam). Alah SWT says in Quran: WaYasAunaFilArze Fasada, WallahLaYahubbulMufsedeen.
dont spread mischief on the face of earth, for Allah SWT doesnt like mischievous people.
for your kind information all muzalaaman do jihad, fight for justice and against difficulties..if life is difficult but I am still fighting and not committing suicide, then it is also Jihad for me..
yes, I agree there are some people who are doing Fasad and izalaam condemns it loudly and clearly...but if we just try to malign and suppress the voice for justice by blaming it terrorism, then the boundary between Jihad and Fasad become very wage and every body suffers then.
Re: And
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 06:06 PM
Man without religion is like an animal without mercy...
in fact even animals do have mercy feeling but a human turns into a merciless animal if he just ignores religion....Gujrat has proved this fact very well..
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by subramanyasastry hoskote on Apr 02, 2010 06:52 PM
You are very correct. The burning of innocent and unarmed kar sevaks by j0h0dis with the tacit support of their local supporters has proved that very comprehensively.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:09 PM
that was al-jihaFeSabiShaitaan and muzalmaan do the Al-JihadFeSabiLillah...there is a difference brother. dont equate them...
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by subramanyasastry hoskote on Apr 02, 2010 08:16 PM
suicide mission is not jihad. RG got killed for his misadventure. And MG deserved to be killed much earlier. He is the root cause for all the mess we find ourselves in today. By the way I have not equated j0h0dis and muslims. It is unfortunate that most muslims are made to believe that j0h0dis are saviours of their religion just like most indians do not recongnise the anti india agenda of the It0li0n and her conparty.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 09:01 PM
we keep blaming, Pakistan, North Korea, Iran and so many others for terrorism. infact any one who is not ready to bow down before USA thieves, are easily labeled as terrorists...
but how many of you know that there is only one country which has been ACCUSED, TRIED and CONVICTED for the terrorism in THE INTERNATIONAL COURT and then that thief country got away saying that I AM NOT ABIDE TO OBEY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT.....
please do guess the country and if you cant then just search in the google you will get it...
that country is a real thief country and every one knows him but keep quite for some vested interest. we just kill the honesty and justice to take illegal advantages...shame on such people...
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by nabiahamed on Apr 02, 2010 08:23 PM
'JIHAD' meaning is to STRIVE. It doesn't men HOLLY WAR. You can judge the truth only what media channels like BBC, CNN says.
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by nabiahamed on Apr 02, 2010 08:57 PM
You call it 'Misadventure' i call it terrorism. You call it 'Jihad' i call it as counter attack.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:10 PM
India has learned the art of doing inside jobs and killing their own people to take an excuse and kill innocents....USA has taught India this art and India is turning into a bad place to live in...
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by subramanyasastry hoskote on Apr 02, 2010 08:18 PM
I agree that Indians including general muslims are fools in the sense that we do not recognise that the itolion is implementing her anti india agenda in the guise of secularism. But I do not agree that persons who feel indianness in them will ever bomb fellow indians as you are suggesting.
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 09:00 PM
more than that in fact hindus are not able to recognise anti indian agenda of BJP and Modi like thieves and are supporting them...these thieves are just satisfying their hatred for muzalmaan and isalaaam and public is being fooled..
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by nabiahamed on Apr 02, 2010 08:28 PM
Are you by any means saying that if no muslim is in India will it be peacefull? If you say 'YES', then i will say 'NO' and give you the following points to think. 1.United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA) 2.National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) in Assam 3.People’s Liberation Army (Maoist) 4.United National Liberation Front (UNLF) 5.People’s Revolutionary party of Kangleipak (PREPAK) 6.Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP) 7.Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup (KYKL) 8.Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF) 9.Revolutionary People’s Front (RPF) in Manipur 10.All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF) 11.National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT ) in Tripura 12.Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC) 13.Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC) in Meghalaya 14.International Sikh Youth Federation 15.Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) 16.Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist)-People’s War, All Its Formations And Front Organisations 17.Maoist Communist Centre (MCC), All Its Formations And Front Organisations 18.Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA) 19.Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT) 20.Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES) These are the terrorist organisation banned by Indian Government. Are they based on Islam, are they headed by muslims?
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by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 08:58 PM
you have huge misunderstanding and a great lack of knowledge of history...
please go and read the indian history....
01. Bagha Jatin who are labled as terrorist by the British Govt. killed his own fellow team mate with an allegation that he has become a british informer.
02. India freedom fighters who were fighting for india's freedom burned one police station in Chaura chauri where indian police were killed. MG opposed this and called back the non-cooperation movemnet.
03. Bhagat singh was labeled as terrorist and his last terrorist (or freedom fight) activity was to throw a bomb in the indian british assembly.
04. when Chandrashekhar Azad was killed, he was actually trapped based upon the tips given by one of his own fellow member of his group and he was killed by the indian police serving under british govt.
05. Pragya and Purohit terrorists did blast and killed indian public. in fact even for those muzalmaan were blamed and funny thing is ISI was blamed for Samjhauta blast. had there been any strong govt. in Pakistan they would have bulldozed indai on this issue..
indian killing indian and justifying their acts. how many examples do you need brother...indian history is full of such incidents.
Sir, No doubt the investigating officer is an honest and good fearing individual but why all the praise for him, simply, because he has called Mr. Modi for questioning ? In fact it seems that the media is becoming a party to the event and trying to extract TPR,s over the issue. I would request let the probe go on and the results be before us before we make comments or convict individuals. If it was not so the Chief Justice would not have shared the same platform with Mr.Modi the next day. The media is not undertaking purposeful journalism but playimg to the galary of interested parties and creating a questionmark on its fairness and transparent in reporting.
Politicians of all hues require honest officers to head election offices important investigations of voter value...this game is inevitable only alternative to ensure peace for the time being...
Re: Re: For him Maino Anto.. and Family comes above law
by cool dude on Apr 02, 2010 05:06 PM
1984 was not only in delhi but whole india these riots took place.. and it was for Khalitan formation.. so it was nothing but same as Pakistan seperation movement.. and for that movement PM of this nation was killed..
Re: Re: Re: For him Maino Anto.. and Family comes above law
by V S on Apr 02, 2010 05:14 PM
1984 riots were cong sponsored riots. they had nothing to do with khalistan formation. Indra gandi was killed due to desecration of Golden Temple and insulting sikh sentiments.
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by cool dude on Apr 02, 2010 05:24 PM
why golden temple incident.. if u not know about history and facts then just to utter out words cant help it.. u can live with ur thoughts..
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by G Uppal on Apr 02, 2010 05:38 PM
it was only for golden temple incident that indira gandhi got killed. she created bhindrawale to check-mate akali dal in panjab, but bhindrawale turned a frankenstein for her. punjab was all the time under military rule or congi govt for the few years prior to '84 with gun totting military all around the streets. then how was so much ammunition allowed to get inside the golden temple, couldnt the govt. & military screen the people going inside, indira gandhi played game with people of punjab and gambled with her life, and so did rajiv do with tamil people.
Nice PR piece. I wonder why rediff comes up with these kind of paid articles.
So the moral of the story is that the SIT is being headed by the same officer whose competence was amply demonstrated when he failed to protect the life of Mr. Rajiv Gandhi. He was also charged for this failure by the Verma Commission.
