Re: Kali pet (empty st0mach)
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:37 PM
dont worry, it may emerge suddenly andin fact it may emerge even in India, WHY NOT...
no body ever predicted it to come in Madina while just a few mile away in Meccah there was huge prosecution going on..but khilafah came. it may in your own home also..beware of this...your own son can embrace izlam..while you still deny it...that has happened before canhappen again....Hudhaifa RA embraced izalaam while his whole family remained against it...and who perished and who cherised at the end, every one knows.
Re: Re: Kali pet (empty st0mach)
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 11:45 PM
Even I like the system. At least we can enjoy four at a time on planet earth and discard them after pronouncing 3Ts once they are of no use. And of course there is no need to pay any maintenance also!!
Don't argue with these kafiiirs. A11ah has sealed the hearts of the non-be1ievers. They are rightful owners of he11 fire.
They do not know what all have been kept ready by the "most merciful creator" in the Paradiiise for the life here-after. Once they realize the truth, they also would not hesitate to blowww themselves up "in the casue of A11ah". If you have any doubt, pl search for "X-RatedParadiseOfIslam" by Mr. Anwar Shekih.
Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:39 PM
who is this Anwar Shaikh...i am not sure one can write a something with that title to glorify izalaam..
Re: Re: @ Golden
by JGN on Apr 02, 2010 11:47 PM
He was a Pakistani Muzlim settled in UK. Pl search for "XRatedParadiseOfIslam" and read the article and enjoy.
Re: What a nice trreatment is reserved for the kafiiirs!!!!
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:16 PM
yes, this will be there. how dare you deny the tax imposed by the govt. what will indian govt. will if i dont pay IT, Sale tax and so many taxes to it? will it not take me with the iron fist? it will..
same will happen to you also if you dont pay the tax in islamic regime..
taxes are imposed in every system in every land, you have no problem in paying tax to decomratic govt. and caitalists then why you will deny the khalifah...?
all those who evade taxes will be taken with the iron fist...khilafah is not weak system...you will realise it very soon.
and for your kind information, this is not for kafirs only. any body who doesnt pay tax will be taken like this....be it muslim or nonmuslim..
Re: Re: What a nice trreatment is reserved for the kafiiirs!!!!
by JGN on Apr 02, 2010 11:20 PM
Golden, Don't argue with these kafiiirs. A11ah has sealed the hearts of the non-be1ievers. They are rightful owners of he11 fire.
They do not know what all have been kept ready by the "most merciful creator" in the Paradiiise for the life here-after. Once they realize the truth, they also would not hesitate to blowww themselves up "in the casue of A11ah". If you have any doubt, pl search for "X-RatedParadiseOfIslam" by Mr. Anwar Shekih.
Re: Re: Re: What a nice trreatment is reserved for the kafiiirs!!
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:38 PM
who is this Anwar Shaikh...i am not sure one can write a something with that title to glorify izalaam..
Re: Re: Re: Re: What a nice trreatment is reserved for the kafiii
by JGN on Apr 02, 2010 11:47 PM
He was a Pakistani Muzlim settled in UK. Pl search for "XRatedParadiseOfIslam" and read the article and enjoy.
You are indeed a shameless muz1im. Only a shameless muz1im will justify Jizya. Pl read 9: 29 again and find out why Jizya was imposed. I do not want to even debate with shameless creatures like you. Good bye.
Btw there is no way you can establish a Kaliphat in 21st century. It was abolished by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the architect of modern Turkey, mainly due to belligerance of muz1ims from other countries (especially by AliBros and his supporters form India).
Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:48 PM
i have explained already but you are too ignorant and calling me even shameless....LOL....cant find any logic to defy jizia so you are abusing me...
if you want to pay Zakah, Sadaqa, Khairat and Fitra then you are welcome...it is much more than Jiziya....
it is like having some rebettes for the non-muzlims but those thieves have used even this fact and ignited hatred for the foolish people..
muslims protect and provide facility and free them from the tough tasks for jizia..you tell then how govt. will run then and how the expenses will be taken for the govt...
and Mustafa Kamal Pasha was a stooge of west and has been completely maligned in the hearts of even Turks...Turkey is very much on the path of becomeing an izlamic estate..those who destroyed izlaamic Khilafat thought that it will never return back but now they are even forced to think that what they will do if it comes back....khilafah is inevitable and its prophecy of getting destroyed and reestablishment has already been mentioned....
this will end the misery of all human kind....those who are being exploited by the todays rulers are not aware that in khilafah they will have more previlages and freedom than these todays so called modern world.
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:52 PM
I do not want to pay any of those bldy things. Shove them up your rear and get lost. Bldy f00l.
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:56 PM
when khilafah comes you will be shoved a lot of things in your rear ifyou dont pay...dont worry, we shall take it....
if we pay IT to the govt. then you will pay Jizia no matter what...we shall take dont worry..your hatred and arrogance will not protect you.....LOL>..
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:59 PM
i too dont want to pay the income tax to the govt. but if i dont do, i shall be jailed...if khilafah comes, we shall much worse to you if you deny to pay the tax, dont worry.....WE SHALL EVEN PULL YOUR SKIN ALIVE..your father will also not deny to pay the taxes.....
govt. provides security and facility, and those who dont pay taxes will be taken criminals of the estate...in india we pay all the taxes even these money are spent on jobless and good for nothing politicians..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:20 PM
it is you who is riding the wishes' horse by closing your eyes and thinking you defying izlama..
whole world is now witnessing the reestablishment of khilafah and even those who demolished it and thought that it will never come back, are now just wishing that they will destroy again. it is like riding the horses of wish which you types are doing and you know what to call them very well..
their thinking that they will destroy it again itself is giving an indication that they cant stop it from reestablishing..also they are forgetting that its demolition was already prophecised and reestablishment is also prophecises..and it will not be destroyed again if believe in prophecies..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 11:26 PM
So when and where are you going to establish your first "kali pet"? In Swat? NWFP? Afghansistan? Nigeria? Somalia? Sudan? Iran? Iraq?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:22 PM
my God has changed the entire world and his prophetSAWS has shown the entire world how to make society based upon humanity, justice and equality....and this has been well recognised by the even enemy scholars..
and if you think you are different from us, I agree with you. we are different no doubt.....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Neha George on Apr 02, 2010 11:35 PM
For gods sake think about your insane ideas. ur god is happy with kasab blowing up 280 people then that god is no good. A god has to be mercifull not endangering others. Its so sad that u people are so bigotted that u cannot see others point of view. Well look tat the status of many muslim countries and women. If it was not for USA and other countries u guys would have killed each other
Pl download and read "The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks, freely available from the net. He has given graphic description of atrocities committed in the name of Re1igions the world over. It is not just 1zlam bashing.
Re: @ Golden
by Sameer Bhagwat on Apr 02, 2010 10:40 PM
GOLDEN is a brain washed f-o-o-1 like many of others nowadays who doggedly believe some sort of Kalifate is in the horizon. These people have become zombies, believing and making others beleive that some desert philosophy is taking root. They wont understand the time that swords as the instrument of conversion is over.
Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:43 PM
Even during the time of their Profit there were talks about the impending end of the WORLD. More than 1400 years have passed but mankind is alive and kicking on planet earth.
According to proven studies, planet earth will support life for another 1.5 billion years. So "the last day of judgement" is not going to come any soon nor will these poor guys get the rewards in the Paradiiise!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:05 PM
almost every religion talk about the end of the world.. ..Islam talks about this in much details but time is not set,..it has been prophecised..
but why you are going to the Last Day. why dont you look into the facts which has been proved. embriology, watercycle, biological systems, and much more have already been talked in Quran long back which is being proved now...
and if something has not yet come, then how can you say it will never come...? time has not yet been set and only AllahSWT knows when it will come...if it comes, you will not have no time to improve yourself....and when it comes you will head to Naar-e-Jahannam, wont discuss with me here in the rediff blog....
Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:01 PM
exactely the same thing you are doing. when you type craps dont have any logic then start talking rubbish and unreasonable things...you abuse ifyou dont have any thing logical..this is a quality of a particular type of nasty people which we have been facing since the beginning and we can very well tackle that once khilafah is reestablished..
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:25 PM
good words to keep you happy...you must work in circus, you will get good earning by joking there...
when whole world is thinking how to stop thsese unstoppable people who are going to bring khilafah and restablish the society without any oppression and exploitation. you arebusy in joking..keep up..we know you are not the real enemy of ours..those who are just fighting for the sake of doing slavery to their masters will change their sides the moment they see their masters going down...
our enemies are already scared of our political leaders who are struggling to reestablish khilafah and you can keep smiling till then...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 11:29 PM
So when and where are you going to establish your first "kali pet"? In Swat? NWFP? Afghansistan? Nigeria? Somalia? Sudan? Iran? Iraq?
Re: @ Golden - only shameless muzlims will justify Jizya
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:33 PM
if you impose equal taxes, you will die...you will start complaining that why should you pay this tax which is coming from religion.....muzlims pay huge tax and they still love the system because it provides a safe and secured atmosphere from any kind of exploitation and oppression..
if you want to pay more, then pay it, who cares....just call it Zakah instead of jiziya....we shall be happy...
as far as xtians are concerned, it isyou who want equal taxes...as this tax comes from religion, and those who dont believe in the religion have been given lower taxes..
also dont compare the 10% going to church. man are you mad or what? church doesnt hold authority and it doesnt run the estate. it is the govt. who runs the estate and doesnt govt. put taxes on muzalamaan? you are guys are just pathetic. talk only irrelevant and absurd talks....any thing you know may not be relevant and logical. think before typing...
Re: Re: @ Golden - only shameless muzlims will justify Jizya
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:35 PM
You are indeed a shameless muz1im. Only a shameless muz1im will justify Jizya. Pl read 9: 29 again and find out why Jizya was imposed. I do not want to even debate with shameless creatures like you. Good bye.
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden - only shameless muzlims will justify Jizya
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:49 PM
have explained already but you are too ignorant and calling me even shameless....LOL....cant find any logic to defy jizia so you are abusing me...
if you want to pay Zakah, Sadaqa, Khairat and Fitra then you are welcome...it is much more than Jiziya....
it is like having some rebettes for the non-muzlims but those thieves have used even this fact and ignited hatred for the foolish people..
muslims protect and provide facility and free them from the tough tasks for jizia..you tell then how govt. will run then and how the expenses will be taken for the gov
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden - only shameless muzlims will justify Ji
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:52 PM
I do not want to pay any of those bldy things. m Shovethem up yourrear and get lost. Bldy f00l.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden - only shameless muzlims will justif
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:06 PM
dont worry, when Khilafah comes we shall take it by holding you from neck...nobody wants to give IT but govt. takes it by law and we shall take much severely. dont worry..LOL
There is no place for outdated re1igious dogmas in today's world driven by science and technology. Those who wrote the re1igius b00ks could not have even throught of humnbeings one day walking on the surface of m00n or artificial satellites exploring far off planets. All re1igions are based on a bundle of lies.
One guy had gone to the Paradiiise atop a Horse but Hubble's Space Telescope could not locate the same till date!!
Modern civil laws have replaced the religious edicts. We do not want some primitive laws to govern our lives today.
Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:01 PM
it is only your arrgance which is denying the vital facts. look into your science and technology, it is still outdated before Izalaam. what Izalaam has already revealed long back, it is revealing today...even this fact itself has made so many people to embrace izlaam..morris bockaile and Dr. Shaun from Japan..search them on the google you will know about them..
your so called modern law is so premitive and outdated that it cant create a single society based upon justice and humanity...every people are being exploited and are being ready to revolt..
but Izalaam has done this long back and still is capable to doing it....a lot of historians and scholars have already accpeted this facts...no need to explain much. for intelligent people a little words are sufficient, but for animals every thing is just for eating and releasing...
i dont want to enter into dogma truth speaks for itself...people getting enlightened and embracing izalaam by proper understanding despite huge amount of propaganda is speaking in the favour and it is doing the job...if you are truthful, you can see this, otherwise i dont want to waste time on you.
Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:12 PM
Majority of converrts are in fact criminals. MichaelJackson converted a few weeks before his death as he was not satisfied with m0lesting all those young b0ys on planet earth. He wanted his share in the Paradiise also.
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:35 PM
you have no idea who are getting converts...plenty of people come and embrace openly in the Zakir Naiks' meeting...it is only your hatred satisfaction which makes you believe that they are criminals...fact is they are rational, honest and brave....it is not easy to just give up whatyou have been following for long, but if you want to follow the truth, you must do what is just and reasonable rather than just being emotional.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:40 PM
ChandMohd and his advocate GF converrted a few months back! And we all know what was the purpose.
ZakirNaik in number one fraud. He cannot stand the scrutiny of a Rationalist even for five minutes. He fan only justify one absurdity with another.
Btw Fatwwwwas were issued against your great aalim Dr.Zakir Naik also a few months back. What a great scholar he is!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:51 PM
so you know the difference, right...chand mohammad did not revert by getting convinced by the talks of Dr. Zakir Naik...so they got what they deserved....
but those who get convert with the proper understanding, their purpose is also very much clear. they want a simple and truthful life and a honest personality...they dont want to follow stories and miracles. they want a practically good life and they get it through Izalaaam..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:08 PM
now avinash has gone in the frustration mode.....no answer to say then just showing frustration and giving up all the fronts..
why dont you accept the truth and embrace the facts instead of simply satisfying your ego and keep supporting the lies..
it is your responsibility too if you have thinking mind. there are very less people who can think ratinally, if you can then just keep all the ideologues before you and anaylse the before math and after math of all the systems, communism, capitalism, socialism, democracy and izalaam..and be honest in your selection...
>>>>>>>it is only id10t like you who will have pride for land. muz1im find pride, in honesty, justice, righteousness and human values ..... can any muz1im from the Indian sub-continet get the citizenship of SaudiArabia? So far as the Arrabs are concerned, you are still a "H1ndi-miskeeen"!! The fat penguins of OIC could not even agree on financial assistance to the Palestines after the last attack in Gaza. Zardari returned empty handed from his misssion-beggging to the Arrabian Countries. Then where is your imaginary ummmmmah?
Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:10 PM
and yes, if there is need, we must help each other and this is not happening because muslims are being ruled by the stooges of USA thieves...so we must liberat our people from the hands of US thieves and this will happen only if Khilafah is reestablished...this will happen very soon and then we shall get the representation. people are working on it....
dont compare Izalaam and muzalamaan identically. they must resemble but still they can be different..
Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:09 PM
there is not end to foolishness and idiocy...why you want to get citizenship of Saudi Arabi...first of all? is there only land in the entire world? and yes ifyou dont have land, then they do give shelter and that's what has happened in the case of jews. muzlims welcomed these jews who have thrown their hosts on the gun point and are labeling them as terrorist while they only want their home back which has been stolen by the jews...
second thing is, if muzlimz are given citizenship then every muzlim will go and stay there for their entire life. thats the love they have for the prophetSAWS.....but in the extreme cases when conditions applies, they do give citizenship only some ignorant like you are unaware of it..
also in USA when any body comes they make sure that he is going back, otherwise they too hesitate to give visa to the visiters...how does it make any country special in this case..
those who are blind by hatred, will always pick unimportant issues and try to malign izlaam..
ummah is there and thats how we are surviving...if zardari did not get then how does it matter, even Gordon Brown went begging before Saudi Arabia and he too did not get...if someone is miskeen then it is okay, only some blind and hatred filled like you will take it insult...you are also miskeen...before rich people..so what happened..
Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:16 PM
USA, UK, France, etc and even India very much give citizenship to people from other Countries. They are not like the Arrrabian countries.
We are not telling any one that only our re1igion is true and all others are false. When you claim that your re1igion is the best, that should be visible to others also.
Re: Re: Re: @ Golden
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:39 PM
they give citizen but they have their own criteria...question is why you want citizen? they are not good right, so why you want to go and stay with them?
these are political issues and every one has to make sure no political issues arise out of their meaningless generosity....USA is very much critical about giving visa, the moment they think you can say there for long, they will deny the visa...so they even ask for the return ticket...
i told you every muzalaam will love to become citizen of saudi arabia. howmany people can stay there...and it is not land which is important...what is important is your own creed and righteousness...
even during the time of prophetSAWS people left saudi arabia....
please dont talk rubbisha..ifyou have any problem with islam then tlak otherwise saudia arabia, muzlimss..what can be done...
Re: Re: @ Golden
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:15 PM
USA, UK, France, etc and even India very much give citizenship to people from other Countries. They are not like the Arrrabian countries.
We are not telling any one that only our re1igion is true and all others are false. When you claim that your re1igion is the best, that should be visible to others also.
we keep blaming, Pakistan, North Korea, Iran and so many others for terrorism. infact any one who is not ready to bow down before USA thieves, are easily labeled as terrorists...
but how many of you know that there is only one country which has been ACCUSED, TRIED and CONVICTED for the terrorism in THE INTERNATIONAL COURT and then that thief country got away saying that I AM NOT ABIDE TO OBEY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT.....
please do guess the country and if you cant then just search in the google you will get it...
that country is a real thief country and every one knows him but keep quite for some vested interest. we just kill the honesty and justice to take illegal advantages...shame on such people...
Re: how many of you do know this...?
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:36 PM
Golden, right from day one your re1igion was spread by violence. That is ingrained in your genes. No use blaming any one else.
Otherwise the Sunnnis and Shiiiias have been blastiing each other sicne CE 682.
Re: Re: how many of you do know this...?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 09:45 PM
problem is you guys always have a narrow mind and look directly in one direction...when we talked about religion, you jumped on the Izalaam and blamed muzalaaman...
religion keeps people on the right path and defines what is good and bad, otherwise every body will do what ever he wants and will claim that he is on the right path..
there are a lot of rational thinking and evidences supporting my claim but arrogant will not understand my point...the problem in your thinking which has been matured by intaking hatred as food from the childhood..
infact shia and sunni fighting itself tells that their fight has nothing to do with their religion...it is totally political....
religion is decided by its holy books and no where it is mentioned in Quran that shia and sunnis should fight...
those who dont follow their religion and fight, can not be taken as the flag bearers of their religion...such problems are every where in every religion...riligion must be decided by looking into the tenets and ethics it promotes...you will not find any problem with izalaam if you just have rational mind instead of hatred filled mind.
Re: Re: Re: how many of you do know this...?
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:49 PM
Yes; of course. We should look to Verses like 9: 29 on the basis of which Jizya was imposed by the Taliban in Swat a few weeks back!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: how many of you do know this...?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:16 PM
indian govt. imposes us so many taxes...Income tax, sale tax, home tax, water tax, registry tax, education tax, and god now how many...haveyou ever looked into these injusitice...?
you will not do that as your mind is brainwasheAlready...
islam has got no income tax, one earns money it is his hard earned money so he must not be afraid of his own money...if he make hoarding then he has to give taxes...and this rule is for every one..
Muzalmaan gives zakat, Fitra, Sadaqa and Khairat and hind00s only jiziya...still they cry, because they have been kept totally ignorant with the reality of izalaam...
also after paying jiziya they can sleep with free mind..it becomes duty of the muzalmaan to protect their life and properties...history tells that when ever muzalamaan have not been able to protect non muz1ims they have returned their jiziya...
you will know these things if you study history with honest mind. RSS and VHP will not teach you these things.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: how many of you do know this...?
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 11:10 PM
jizia is not the mark of subjugation, if you want to pay like any other muzlims, then you can do this very well....
only muzlims do more duties than non-muzlims in the islamic estate and for protection and providing security and running the estate in which every body including nonmuzlims are living, they take tax. if you want to pay Zakah rather than jizia then you are welcome..but it will be more than your proper jizia..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: how many of you do know this...?
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 10:25 PM
Golden, the Indian govt imposes all taxes uniformly on all citizens irrespective of re1igion.
Jizya is a mark of subjugation of the "non-believers". Only shameless muz1ims like you justify the same.
The Xtians pay 10% of their income to the Churches. How would you feel if they impose the same on others also in Xtian majority countries?
How would you fell if the Govt of India impose some taxes only on the muzlims in India?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Truth will prevail...
by Avinash on Apr 02, 2010 09:46 PM
What methedology you want to follow? L00ting the caravans? Ki111ing the J*ews and paaagans at the drop of a hat?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Truth will prevail...
by Golden on Apr 02, 2010 10:22 PM
thats what you have learned in your familyAndRSS classess right..you should have asked what methodology there is actually. but you are totally mindless and hatred filled...
you think only with your own corrupt thinking..those who have never seen good can never think good actually...you are going on the same path...
yes there is a methodology and this ends the entire problem of humanity...no where looting can establish khilafah, it can only establish the system you are living in today....
and jews and pagans were never killed just because they are jew or pagans...actually these jews were welcomed in palestine and they then did the heinous crime and threw their well wishers out...and stole their land...this history is hardly 70-80 years old but those who just live by hatred have forgottenten the real story and call the real masters of palestine as terrorists...it is height of hatred one can have. now only bursting of mind can be there. there is not place for any more i think...
and existance of plenty of pagans in so many muslims countries is a proof that pagans are not killed just because they are pagans..also this is an english world..why dont you go and ask your lovely master thief USA and UK whether they love you pagans or not..
