Well below comments have tickled my funny bone, but the facts are painful enough. Mr. Loga purchase power of Indians is to its population nothing else than that. But I agree to begging bowl philosophy which is true in every sense. Politically and stategically India has been alaggard and its position dwindling. They say in Hindi are these guys are making pickle with the money? Invest in education, we have 8 IIMs and almost equal no. of IITs. Come on isn't it crap that 1 billion people and seats for only 6-7000 people? and that too half of it reserved!!! Well this may be out of topic but practically speaking before you go outside india first look back inside. Invest in Infrastructure, healthcare. There are lot many things to be done. Don't just discuss the issues, resolve them. Looking back now just discussing issues has done nothing good, we have half of kashmir with China and Pakistan. Open up, wake up!!!!!!!
absolutely right, see the US goes to china with a begging bowl & India goes to US with the same bowl, so whos the power, the media just misleads the people saying red carpet welcom for the INdian PM etc etc, its high time media tries to waken the masses rather than mislead them, India can never become a superpower with the political set up it has now, the defense & secret services are hopelessly divided among themself, or by now India should have sen a coup, which is I guess long over due
Re: Paper Power
by kunnathidathil anil on Nov 23, 2009 12:08 AM
You Mr. Indian, U seams to be a Porki and whenever get an oppertunity u lash out on India, for no reason. Look at ur dream country Porkistan today, embroiled with Jihadi Porks, makes ur dream land - the mother of all terrorism-, well, china is communist nation, like the Soviets - former Super Power- and collapsed like a clay house in the rain. China too can't cling that countries internal stife, and its people under pressure for a long time. it may implode any time. Our nation will rise up like a 'Phinix" from the ashes and U lot will realise the truth at a later stage. KP.A
Re: Paper Power
by Loga on Nov 22, 2009 07:09 PM
India is not superpower but also no more a poor Nation Now. India is a rich country which has lot of poor people is correct. India has 300 billion of Foreign exchange reserves. India is lending USD 10 billion to IMF can't be poor.Indian economy has joined G-20.India received $55 billion in remittance inflows in 2008, the highest among developing countries. In terms of purchasing power parity, India is the fourth largest economy, after the US, China and Japan, in that order; it recently overtook Germany. By 2010, India is projected to overtake Japan.
Re: Re: Paper Power
by neelam on Nov 24, 2009 10:13 AM
Taste of the cake is in eating not talking. This year itself goverment has borrowed 4 lacs crore to pay only salary. Deficit in budget will make india slave for onather 100 years.
India lacks strategic thinking. We have to grow out of our cold war mindset. Back then we didnt have many choices coz we had strategic alliance with USSR and our foreign policy was dictated by that. Also, back then, we didnt have foreign exchange and we exchanged Russian weapons for our mangoes and bananas.
TIMES HAVE CHANGED!
World recognises India as a power now. We should have independent thiking now as USSR is gone. We now have real foreign exchange and can pay in reality for any technology that we need. Our people now live in good numbers on all 6 inhabited continents and have good influence on local politics.
If there was a good strategic lead in India, we could use all our resources to full advantage and cover the gap into becoming a global power on par with china if not ahead of it.
But that will not happen under mms or puppet rahul. We will need real leaders with vision for India to grow into a world leader.
India is not superpower but also no more a poor Nation Now. India is a rich country which has lot of poor people is correct. India has 300 billion of Foreign exchange reserves. India is lending USD 10 billion to IMF can't be poor.Indian economy has joined G-20.India received $55 billion in remittance inflows in 2008, the highest among developing countries. In terms of purchasing power parity, India is the fourth largest economy, after the US, China and Japan, in that order; it recently overtook Germany. By 2010, India is projected to overtake Japan.
Re: India is not superpower like China but still India is the fou
by neelam on Nov 24, 2009 10:14 AM
by neelam on Nov 24, 2009 10:13 AM Taste of the cake is in eating not talking. This year itself goverment has borrowed 4 lacs crore to pay only salary. Deficit in budget will make india slave for onather 100 years.
Re: India is not superpower like China but still India is the fou
by RajeshKumar Arora on Nov 22, 2009 11:08 PM
I have stayed in India first 20 years of my life, and have seen various political parties elected after selling rise of middle class, India emerging, India a superpower so on and so forth, and I have been in U.S for a while, which is facing the biggest recession of its life, but still I can say conclusively, that India is a great opportunity lost, it had the potential to become a leader of world, but corruption, and some of the worst political leadership has ruined its chances. We as people have now accepted corrupt leaders as our destiny and every 5 years we repeat the same mistake. People continue to buy fake medicines, adulterated foods, keep bribing people, police continues to be used as a state tool to win elections, Can you believe a bottle of liquor can decide who wins an election, it happened in my constituency. China is obsessed with sucess, it has a single point goal and it is on its way, U.S realises this and it knows that China keeps the U.S econonmy running, and if there were no chinese products, people would buy much less, so just change the channel if you see some politician saying that we are next superpower, its atleast 100 years away.
Re: Re: India is not superpower like China but still India is the
by neelam on Nov 24, 2009 09:54 AM
Rajeshkumar, U are right, generation by generation we are eating poison in almost everything. how can a unhealthy nation be a superpower. If you drink tap water U may die, and we talk about eurolevel of stander in coke etc. What a mimicry.
Re: Re: India is not superpower like China but still India is the
by raj on Nov 23, 2009 06:30 AM
I am living in U.S from last 10 years corruption is here also. You know because of Lehman Brothers Fraud of $50 billion millions of people in the world have lost there life saving retirement saving money in one day. 125 Banks become bank corrupt in last one years is this not because of corruption fraud.
1)If India s population could be controlled like China2)if politicians could stop corruption by accountability or one year show of responsibility(Management Corporate style -perform or perish) fire the corrupt and inefficient.3)Abolish British Tax system and instal a straight 10% on salary or corporate tax that suits Indians and India,revamp for love of country and people.and then use this money for development ,outsourcing & Contracts to foreigners who can bring development for two to three years for power.water.food didtribution to one and all.Make Friends not foes with forgien powers and friendly countries like Saudi ,UAE Bahrain,Kuwait and treat them as friends not enemies,Please dont give fiery speeches to disturb and kick the livelihood of millions of Indians and try and make friendly workable solutions for all.If china can do it so can India,what India needs is corruption free politicians and population control that is change at the top completely and fully.Mukti from all KOdas.
Re: Superpower Only if-Three wands
by Loga on Nov 22, 2009 05:06 PM
India is not superpower but also no more a poor Nation Now. India is a rich country which has lot of poor people is correct. India has 300 billion of Foreign exchange reserves. India is lending USD 10 billion to IMF can't be poor.Indian economy has joined G-20.India received $55 billion in remittance inflows in 2008, the highest among developing countries. In terms of purchasing power parity, India is the fourth largest economy, after the US, China and Japan, in that order; it recently overtook Germany. By 2010, India is projected to overtake Japan.
Re: Re: Superpower Only if-Three wands
by Virendra Patel on Nov 22, 2009 09:42 PM
I doubt it very much, if India is capable of having an economy that can overtake Japan. Wake up Loga, it's not possible. India has too many mouths to feed. The population of our country should be 500 million by most and the Muslim, Jewish and Christian population should be at most of 50,000 maximum - or they should be infertile or sterilized by force. One thing is for certain though - India will never have the same quality of living standards, hygiene, cleanliness and safety standards as Japan and any other European, North American and Arabic Industrial nation. Indians have no idea how to be clean, tidy, healthy and safe.
Re: Superpower Only if-Three wands
by Virendra Patel on Nov 22, 2009 07:43 PM
How about sterilising all the Muslim and other minorities for 25 years and only Hindu's can have one baby until 2035.
China took power by creating terrorist regimes around it, Korea, Pakistan, Myanmar, vietnam ... Now too keep it has gone beyond its borders to Sudan, Iran, Venezuela and even supports Russia. Their goal is just power to feed their public euphoria of the great chinese civilisation while doing everything to undermine it. And also the perception of china as a great power keeps the attention away from local problems. India is a democracy and our power comes from the people and not from the central polit bureau. Everything that goes up has to come down. And in the new world this cycle will be re peated faster. You don't have to too far. US, USSR, Post world war Europe etc... India did not rise quickly in the past nor did it decline fast. It is takes a more organic cycle. Patience...We have already shown that we an also misuse the tiny bit of power we had by supporting LTTE and destabilizing our neighbors for decades.
We very rightly don't aspire to be 'super power' in the hegemonistic and military sense.Our path and goals are clear to the extent that we desire welfare of all our people including our neighbours and a progressive peaceful world.The state dictatorship is not acceptable to us as it robs the freedom of peopleto enrich their cosciousness and make best of the first, last and the only life that they have gotten.Our moral,spiritual and military strength is second to none in the region today,you call it 'super power' or not;that's immaterial.
Re: India as Asian Power
by PHAM on Nov 22, 2009 08:36 PM
Our neighbors don't like to have 25% of their GDP being owned by just their top 100 richest citizens for sure.
We cannot compete with China because we have a far more inefficient governing system: democracy. Of course that is the price we pay for freedom. In China the governing council is filled with engineers, that too graduates from Tsingua university, the Chinese equivalent to IITs. Imagine that happening in India. Even south korea which grew from $100 per capita income in the 60s to the current $25000 level also had an autocratic rule over extended periods of time.
Steel Production million tons/year 280 45 Food grain production million tons/year 418 210 Cement Production million tons/year 650 150 Crude Oil production million tons/year 180 40 Coal Production million tons/year 1,300 300 Electricity generated Billions of Kilowatts 2,190 557 Transmission & distribution losses as % of total power 6.8 23.4 Electricity tariff US$ / 100 KW 4 to 5 8 to 10 Cost of commercial borrowing as % interest/ year 6 - 7 8 - 16 Telephone lines connected millions 311 67 TV sets in households millions 500 85 Mobile/cellular phones millions 400 100 Internet users millions 111 51 Foreign trade (China HongKong) US$ billions/year 1038 923=1961 260 External debt (China Hong Kong) US$ billions 242 416= 658 120 Exports (China HongKong) US$ billions/year 752 286= 1038 120 Imports (China HongKong) US$ billions/year 632 291= 923 138 Tourist Arrivals millions/year 87 4 TV broadcast stations numbers 3240 562 Radio broadcast stations AM/FM/short wave 369/259/49 153/91/68
Re: China Vs India
by Ramanathan Umapathy on Nov 22, 2009 09:05 PM
It is gutless,corrupt,politics, system which has made India slide below China and Not Democracy--If only as a friend has indicated if all proper channels are utilized/put to use -it will take India just another 8years to match China and another 8years to become world's economy-by 2025--that is what Mckinsy have tried to project--Will MS/SG/RG will listen and stop pandering to vote banks-by 1,Make indian security strong -Invest 15billion US$ on internal security/Defenseforces/Missile systems to hit targets deep inside China2.Completely liberate all power sector for privte investmenst and corporatize all State SEBs3.Liberate all PSUs to make greater inputs to national economy as corporate entities4.Stop pandering to all OBC/MBC philosophy and bring in meritocracy5.Exemplary punishemnt system for all Babus /Politicians who cheat the nation in all matters including for judges/lawyers6.Bring in general tax and stop all types of check posts,sales tax etc through out the country and bring in trading with in the country from kashmir to Kanyakumari7.Bring in radical admn moves on kashmir even to the extent of special autonomy for kasmiris with defence/extenal affairs with India jointly with Pak to divert monies to developments in Trans Himalayan region for roads/airfields/defence locations8.Invest 20-25 US $billions on immediate reasearch on science/defence sectors9.allow FDI and US/europian compnies in defence sector productions with all time slots fixed.10.crush all antiIndian group
Re: China Vs India
by PHAM on Nov 22, 2009 08:56 PM
Foreign reserves $U.S in billions 2300/300. Gold producer position 1st/51st Olympic gold medals for 2008 50/1 Paralympic gold medals for 2008 89/0 GDP Sizes 3rd/12th
