Re X-ians: X-ians have always been there in the national stream being active participants in taking the country forward. But their area of focus was not politics! They focused on Education and Healthcare sectors. 2.5% of the Indian population, the X-ian population, have been educating more than 70% of the educated ppl in India through their educational institutions without any considerable Govt grants! Is it not patriotism? Most of the big names in Hospitals in any city in India is run by the X-ian community. This makes access to quality health care to the society irrespective of what religion one belongs to. No hospital is turning the patients back just because he or she is not a X-ian! Many of the hospitals have foreign missionary funded projects that extends free healthcare especially when it comes to costlier procedures such heart surgery, eye operations etc. and organ donations etc. etc. We X-ians received funds - only audited white money - from donors from US, Australia etc and make it available to the poor ppl! It is not to help conversion as preached by the "Sakha educated" Parivar! If a rich person willing to help the poor is willing to donate money and we X-ians find projects to make available that money and become a hope in life for the poorest of poor in our country, is it not Patriotism?
If all these money have been used for conversion, how come the 2.7% of our population after the time of independence shrink today to 2.5% ?
Re: Indian X-ians are Patriots
by Pathur Swaminathan on Jul 26, 2009 10:10 AM
Annan Thampi,
Chistians are as much Indians as anyone else. However get your facts right.
It was white christianity that made India poor, from being the richest country in the world. Do you know why India was called "Jewel in the crown"? Loot from India fuelled the "Industrial Revolution". It was the white christian colonial powers that caused the death of the over 30million Indians (conservative estimate).
Wrt to education, "secularism" has guaranteed unfettered monopoly for "semetic minorities" to the educational industry and curtailed the indigenous religions from this domain. Do you know how the Christian schools got land - it was thru free large scale land grants during white christian control, part of a multi-pronged strategy to loot and control the indigenous religions. So please spare the "Christian" this and "Christian" that! Please check out the state of the continents where the chruch planted the cross!!
Christianity is the worlds biggest global MNC, by the whites, for the whites, using locals as proxies!!
One African intellectual stated thus (I think it was Bishop Tutu): "When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said “Let us pray.” We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."
Re: Indian X-ians are Patriots
by jayantilal govind on Jul 26, 2009 10:06 AM
cos most of us are selfish, those who are educated from your X-ians they forget where they came from, most of them will not give money away cos they have no BIG HEART. thats why we dont use a shovel which can throw away the dirt and drag towards you.
Re: Forget Kargil as soon as possible
by paul theo on Jul 26, 2009 09:52 AM
U ARE RIGHT, GEORGE FERNANDES WAS SLEEPING AND VAGPAYEE WAS HAVING A DRINK PROBABLY AND THE PAKISTHANIS WERE ON TOP OF KARGIL, BECAUSE OF THE FOLLY OF THE DEFENCE MINISTER IN BJP GOVT. WE LOST SO MANY OF OUR JAWANS.LET THESE BJP MINISTERS SEND ONE OF THEIR KIN TO THE BORDER AND SHOW THEIR COURAGE, THEY JUST KNOW TO KILL INNOCENTS AND HELPLESS MINORITIES,AND SPREAD VENOM.
Re: Forget Kargil as soon as possible
by santhoshbabu gnair on Jul 26, 2009 10:39 AM
SONIA,UNDER A SO CALLED SECULAR CONGRESS GOVT, WE WOULD HAVE WITNESSED ONE MORE PARTITION OF THE COUNTRY LIKE IN THE PAST BY EASILY ACCEPTING IT AS PORKI OCCUPIED KARGIL(ANOTHER P.O.K) & AGAIN WOULD GO FOR TALKS WITH PORKIS FOR PEACE & CEASEFIRE.BECAUSE OF THE DEDICATED INDIAN SOLDIERS,YOU ARE ABLE TO TALK SECULARISM.CAN SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT SECULARISM IN IS.REPUB OF PORKISTAN, AS IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE HOLY BOOK
I am touched by the story of Bina Muhilan. Somehow I feel most of us have a 'pseudo-patriotism' in us. Baring a few messages, We just use forum to hurl abuse or talk about how we love 'India'. Is there any way we can recognise the sacrifice of brave men like Flt Lt. Muhilan? Is there any way we can contribute Mr. Anil Kumar?
What is your take on Congress RS MP Chadrashekhar dubbing Kargi as 'BJP's War'. In any other country he would have been forced t resign- but in India martyrs can be insulted by all and sundry!
Re: Re Kargil
by paul theo on Jul 26, 2009 09:55 AM
RAJEEV GANDHIS BOFORS GUNS SAVED SO MANY LOVES OF OUR JAWANS, BUT THE BARKING DOGS LIKE JETMALANIS AND OTHERS FROM THE OPPOSITION,HAVE TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING TROUBLE IN INDIA, TRY THEM BY APPOINTING A MILITARY COURT.
Re: Re: Re Kargil
by Surendra Nayak on Jul 26, 2009 10:15 AM
The Bofors were not Rajiv Gandhi's. They r bought by the hard earned money of and Indian paid to the Govt as tax. Rajiv gandhi did not donate anything to our nation,his family made money from Bofors deal through Kutrochi. Why do u think Sonia was protecting Kutrochi. Our Prime minister conveniently forgot to ask Gilani about Lashkae-e toiba involvement in terrorism against India, making the people who lost their lives in Tajmahal blast as idiots.
Re: Re: Re Kargil
by Li Na on Jul 26, 2009 11:43 AM
Bofors was actually proven to be the inferior gun in various experimentation.
But Sonia brainwashed Rajiv to go for Bofors because only then Q could have got a huge pay off.
Bofors actually lost a lot of lives of Indian soldiers.
Why do you think Sonia is so keen to protect Q. Sonia is infact the most CORRUPT and shameless lady in India right now....sucking Indian's hard earned money.
Indians should start a QUIT INDIA movement just to get her out.
Re: send bjp/rss leaders to porkistan and drop a nuke there
by secret on Jul 26, 2009 08:50 AM
your comment smacks of religious hatred and is rooted in mindless mob psycology and not on sound analysis and rationale. Do you even understand that there are several innocents who are in a hapless state in pakistan..???? what abt them? nuke them also??
and whatever makesyou turn your ire on RSS..?? are they making bombs and exploding on innocents..??
Re: Your da was an ideote goat
by IndiaStrong on Jul 26, 2009 08:48 AM
what about motfkr Porkis who did not even accept the bodies of the soliders (whom they called Mujahideen) who were killed like dogs on Indian side? IF you do not know the facts, then keep your mouth shut. Do not talk about the competency of Indian army. Just by imagining of the virtues of Indian army, porkis piss in their pants. By the way, do not hide. Come and reveal your true name. In stead of worrying our army, go and spare a thought about your coward and weak army who is taking months to evict Taliban enemies from a place which is just a couple of hundreds of KMs for ISlamabad.
Why are there no Moslems in the list of martyrs in Kargil war? Were the Moslems hiding like true traitors and supporting their true brothers the Pukistanis? Why is every martyr a Hindu or a Sikh but not a Moslem?
Re: Why no Moslems?
by IndiaStrong on Jul 26, 2009 08:02 AM
wrong bro. There were patriotic mozlims who lost lives during Kargil war giving lives for Mother India. We can not generalize. By the way I am Heendu and more than that I am a hard core Indian.
Re: Re: Why no Moslems?
by AnnanThampi on Jul 26, 2009 09:16 AM
You r right KA:
In BJP, the leaders and their "Parivar" are always safe! But the "Sangh Parivar" are not!! They kill, torch and bomb innocent ppl and go to jail! However, the leaders who make firing speech to the "senseless cadres" are not going to jail, they are always safe!
Re: Re: Why no Moslems?
by santhosh raghavan on Jul 26, 2009 09:30 AM
instead of bjp leaders/sons why can't you join in army so that hungry indian jawan can please you and by that your sickness (nimphomaniac) will be well cured without any expenses..
Re: Why no Moslems?
by peary books on Jul 26, 2009 08:10 AM
there were people of all faith, remember maj. haneefuddin.., capt abdul madani from chennai and sevwral others from kashmir based regiment..they died fighting during kargil..you asli bharatwasi, when you don't know things, don't spread hatred here...you are not asli bharatwasi but some stupid impostor...go to hell!! (and I am hindu and indian!!)
