Mug Mug Mug - Yes...thats right!...Thats the success mantra for students in the Indian Education System.. I just got over my 7th semester BE exams and i realised one thing - I have just mugged my way through..!....Ask any person abt the working of any method and you get this standard reply - "Why u bother?....Jus mug and vomit in the exam!".....The more you replicate the text book content in your answer sheet, the more you get marks!......and thats true!.....Even in case of subjects like Mathematics.....the usual questions come from various parts of the text book (mostly solved questions).....Mug up the entire text book and you are done!....Practical subjects like programming can also be handled in the "mug" way....Usual programming questions also come from textbooks...(It is very difficult for the question paper setter to write his own question and form the answer)....Study those textbooks.....memorize them and you are done!.......
Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 12:57 AM
Beta aise to tujhe naukri mil gai!
I work alongside British, Germans and Americans on a daily basis and I feel pride when they point out the basic difference in Indian education system that we know at least something about everything compared to them who started doing their vocational training before they were 14. I surprise them by cost/price/variance etc analyses which are nowhere my jobs because Indian education system taught these to me in their basic formats even in middle school. They NEVER saw it because they went in straight for specialization which I started after 12th. You wont understand unless you really physically compare the two systems. My own German boss told me this last year that ours is the best education system.
Teri agar exam dene me fat rahi hai to ye sach nahi badlega.
Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Paanwala Paan on Sep 01, 2009 01:06 AM
Thanks for letting us know who is the boss there. I bet they are laughing behind your back what a idiot they got who does the work and gets all excited by a few words of false praise.
If you were that smart, you would be the boss not British/Germans/Americans. Idiot!
Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Management Consultant on Sep 01, 2009 01:09 AM
Idiot works HARDER but why, to please his boss, why does he tell all his CRAP which is NOT required of his job , sounds like a stupid moron.
With one technical and 3 management degrees, my shoes have more brain than this chap
Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:20 AM
With one technical and three management degrees you still have time to waste on rediff well past midnight, that shows your shoe definitely has more brain, than yourself.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:59 AM
1200 gms... since I stopped counting them long back. And they happen to be from many countries.
But I still credit my primary and secondary education for being able to do diverse qualifications without having to start afresh on some subject.
Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Management Consultant on Sep 01, 2009 01:03 AM
STUPID fellow I am narrating OLD incident from 1993, today I am tera baap MORON.
As they say beggers are not choosers, why do you tell them more of your crap than what is required of you ? Indian company mein job nahi mila kya ? on yes MONEY , you are buyable on that, typical third world mentality who choose to serve the white skins instead of their own.
You are a brown coolie and angrez will praize you to the skies, naturally cuz they have to get their jobs done by a servant while they relax, so naturally. Feel PROUD of working for BLOODY white skin company, you foolish chap.
Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian Hindu on Sep 01, 2009 01:18 AM
Management Consultant..please give me some tips...I dislike mugging up and then vomitting in exams..but I want to be like you...one technical degree...and at least one management degree(3 will be too much for me)...please guide me...
Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:18 AM
Did you just dream or did I MENTION that it was a white skin company! It is very much a company two and half hours from Mumbai.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:45 AM
I have started doubting your intelligence Management Consultant. You just ASSUME too many things. Didnt you learn in one of your degrees that to ASSUME is to make an ASS of U & ME. Well, I am not a party, you be happy with your new Avataar.
By the way, it aint a BPO. It is one of the world's largest MANUFACTURING units. You should have known with your degrees when I mentioned COST/PRICE/VARIANCE.
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by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:24 AM
Exactly what employees are supposed to do at work. Your three management degrees never took you around even once to a company with foreign workers!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:47 AM
Working harder, brown skin, serving white, slave bla bla bla...
Well, I am sitting here on rediff for past one hour enjoying your shyt. does that not give you an idea how far up I probably am, in the hierarchy, eh Management Consultant!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian Hindu on Sep 01, 2009 01:29 AM
Management Consultant...its not good to ignore people less successfull than you...I am asking for some tips..how to become achiever like you and you are saying...this is bad...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Management Consultant on Sep 01, 2009 01:25 AM
Oh I see one of those umpteem BPOs/ outsourcing serving a WHITE skin company again, but why do they hire you ? CHEAPER and works HARDER (read longer hours, right you brown worker? I thought India got independence in 1947.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian Hindu on Sep 01, 2009 01:25 AM
please give me some tips how to be successful like you....please..I also want to become BOSS of white people...like you...
Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian Hindu on Sep 01, 2009 01:12 AM
Just curiosity...for whom do you work ? or do u have your own business ?
Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Ary Doriz on Sep 01, 2009 02:02 AM
Are you saying that all you did was MUG MUG MUG??? Indian education system is far from being the best. Your German boss did not study here and by the way, he is your boss and probably he studied in Germany, right??
Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 02:04 AM
I never said all I did was MUG. I simply said the advantage of Indian system is that we dont typecast ourselves into a specific vocation early up in life. Let me assume that 75% of what I would have mugged was lost, I still remember the remaining 25% and that occassionally helps when everyone around may be blank. If I had the option in that age, I would have also opted to skip subjects I didnt like.
Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 02:06 AM
In fact, having decided to take both maths and biology in sr secondary was terrible hard work in that age, but that helped me secure a masters level in food safety as well as a professional qualification plus profession in ERP (if u know what it is). Which nationality has the options for this variety?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Ary Doriz on Sep 01, 2009 03:01 AM
"Taking maths and bio in 1 was terrible hard work at that age".....
Re: Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Indian Hindu on Sep 01, 2009 02:10 AM
So you are saying..if I didn't study in India I could have become a BOSS ? okay..got your point...now since there will be no more exams....so many brilliant students will come out of colleges...who will become BOSS of white people...I am so happy for my country...I couldn't achieve anything..but my country will prosper in future..bcoz of this great move....
Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by arup isaacs on Sep 01, 2009 03:06 AM
Really? Are you in your proper senses when you boast of the "superiority" of the Indian education system? If Indians were smarter than the Germans, Brits and Amercians, then we should have been been coming up with all the major ineventions, innovations and discoveries. Right? But what is the reality? The reality shows that Indians copy or imitate everything from the West, Japan or Israel and end up shoddily applying them in the Indian context. Most Indians working abroad (including our overrtaed IITians), too, are more appreciated not for their originality and creativity but for their English language skills, hardworking habits and ability to adapt (copy) to hi-tech jobs.
Re: Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by Ary Doriz on Sep 01, 2009 04:21 AM
You are very badly mistaken if you think Indians abroad are appreciated for English. Such people work in India in BPOs. It is a mistake to think that all Indians work in software.
Re: MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG MUG ...... BECOME A ROBOT
by arup isaacs on Sep 01, 2009 03:00 AM
Really? Do you mean that the Indian education system is so superior that it outbeats those in the US, Germany and Britain? If so then our "brilliant" Indians should have come up with all the major ineventions, discoveries and innovations instead of desperately and shoddily copying everything from the West, Japan and Israel !
Class X exams are a waste of time and it is a memory test at best and child abuse at worst. I scored very high in Class X CBSE exam (90%) but within 3 months I could not remember anything what I had crammed. I can safely say that this is the case for a large majority of people. How many of you can remember what you studied for Class X?
If India needs to revamp its educational system, we need to remove all the memory tests and have exams that test understanding and encourage creativity. There is absolutely no need to take away childhood from children by engaging them in wasteful activities like board exams. Moreover, the parents are always expecting very good results that puts enormous stress on children who haven't learn to cope with such stress.
Good move by govt. It should have done decades ago.. Bravo!
Re: Very good move by Govt.
by such jano on Sep 01, 2009 12:35 AM
You crammed perhaps, you today are able to earn your bread well. Otherwise you would have been standing alongside madrassa graduated youths to waiting for kangress to give you something to eat under NREGA.
Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Paanwala Paan on Sep 01, 2009 12:41 AM
This kind of fear tactic is the signature of an ignorant moron. Despite having millions of college going students, India has no world class university or college. Even the IITians are mere minnows in world research. But I guess you wouldn't know all this because you can't think beyond the next galli-college.
Board exams test memory and memory only. They may well ask you to memorize and then test on phone books, shlokas or madarssa materials - if memory is the only test here.
Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by such jano on Sep 01, 2009 12:49 AM
If you are not a madrassa graduate you perhaps would not have relatiated in this fashion.
Anyway that not the point who you are, before comparing to the west you have to understand that even small european countried with less than 1% of indian population produces 5 times quality students and research and so is their economy, GDP, per capita income, living standard with more opportunits that available people.
You will not compete with them by destroying whatever we have but protecting what we have and only build on that.
In india where resources are less and people are more you must distribute these based on some sort of merit not based on madrassa education.
You remove board and only people who will get admission in delhi college will be relatives of politicians or beacurocrats.
You have to force people to work hard and gain benefits in a transparent manner and exams, compettion are the only possible way untill you produce more IITs seats than number of people wanting to study in IIT.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Paanwala Paan on Sep 01, 2009 01:00 AM
Your main point is -- "only people who will get admission in delhi college will be relatives of politicians or beacurocrats."
Well, isn't it the case even now? Don't people with connections and money get their kids through donations etc?? What is the point of getting millions of kids memorizing useless materials because you fear such and such will happen otherwise? Newsflash: It already happens! Your argument about distribution of resources is completely out of place and absurd - There is no evidence that removing board exams will somehow create unfair distribution. Infact, it will be a much fairer process as genuinely bright students (and not just the crammers) will get ahead. (As for the madrassa graduate comment - I find striking similarity between madrassa logic and yours - maybe you have been a madrassa graduate, not a good one at that moreover)
Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by such jano on Sep 01, 2009 12:56 AM
Also if 'Board exams test memory and memory only' is your point, you should be asking to make these exams more appropriate to test ones capability, you would not be sking for their abolition.
There are tons of reforms that can be done in education system india than destroying its perhaps the only good thing, the board exams.
Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 12:55 AM
Sh(_)t the f (_)p P@@nwala.
I work alongside British, Germans and Americans on a daily basis and I feel pride when they point out the basic difference in Indian education system that we know at least something about everything compared to them who started doing their vocational training before they were 14. I surprise them by cost/price/variance etc analyses which are nowhere my jobs because Indian education system taught these to me in their basic formats even in middle school. They NEVER saw it because they went in straight for specialization which I started after 12th. You wont understand unless you really physically compare the two systems. My own German boss told me this last year that ours is the best education system.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Paanwala Paan on Sep 01, 2009 01:04 AM
Thanks for letting us know who is the boss there. I bet they are laughing behind your back what a idiot they got who does the work and gets all excited by a few words of false praise.
If you were that smart, you would be the boss not British/Germans/Americans. Idiot!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Management Consultant on Sep 01, 2009 01:01 AM
As they say beggers are not choosers, why do you tell them more of your crap than what is required of you ? Indian company mein job nahi mila kya ? on yes MONEY , you are buyable on that, typical third world mentality who choose to serve the white skins instead of their own.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Management Consultant on Sep 01, 2009 12:59 AM
You are a brown coolie and angrez will praize you to the skies, naturally cuz they have to get their jobs done by a servant while they relax, so naturally. Feel PROUD of working for BLOODY white skin company, you foolish chap.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:51 AM
Working harder, brown skin, serving white, slave bla bla bla...
Well, I am sitting here on rediff for past one hour enjoying your shyt. does that not give you an idea how far up I probably am, in the hierarchy, eh Management Consultant!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:52 AM
I have started doubting your intelligence Management Consultant. You just ASSUME too many things. Didnt you learn in one of your degrees that to ASSUME is to make an ASS of U & ME. Well, I am not a party, you be happy with your new Avataar.
By the way, it aint a BPO. It is one of the world's largest MANUFACTURING units. You should have known with your degrees when I mentioned COST/PRICE/VARIANCE.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Ary Doriz on Sep 01, 2009 02:16 AM
Did your English teacher not tell you that 'aint' is not an English word? Perhaps your American, British and German bosses also did not tell you that.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 02:32 AM
Did someone tell you that British acknowledge exporting English to India as their biggest mistake today. You wont know, you only saw them on TV.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 02:30 AM
MORON. I mistook you for an intelligent person.
Go to wwwDOTdictionaryDOTcom and see if it is a word or not. If you are still not satisfied search the question on Wikianswers whether it is a word or not. If still not satisfied, go to Sonia Webster oops Merriam Webster dictionary. And if you dont know any of these names, keep voting as your pastor dictates.
Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by rew ytr on Sep 01, 2009 01:00 AM
jo bhi ho....bjp with all its supereducated jinnah loving g[a]ys was never able to do anything.....
Re: Re: Re: Very good move by Govt.
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 02:12 AM
The road on which you drive to your home (most likely south of Mumbai... to your native place, thats where majority of non-resident portuguese - genuine ones mind it - reside, right?) was developed by BJP.
Re: Present Education system is a crap
by such jano on Sep 01, 2009 12:31 AM
CBSE system to be changed to be at par with madrassa education to promote secularism in the country.
This will help madrassa educated desi jehadis to compete globally.
Re: Re: Re: Present Education system is a crap
by rew ytr on Sep 01, 2009 01:02 AM
you are wrong success....such jano is just jealous of congress... n nothin else...
Re: Hardly 10% students appear in CBSE Board
by such jano on Sep 01, 2009 12:14 AM
BJP should take the information to public on such matters, but the self serving current leaders are just busy fighting with each other to occupy posts.
Re: Re: Hardly 10% students appear in CBSE Board
by Devdutt Nayak on Sep 01, 2009 12:56 AM
The BJP did many good things.
River-Linking project started
Golden quadrilateral - highways (Also note the horrible Satyendra Dubey incident)
Look East policy with China.
Nuke tests.
See how North Korea effectively deflected impending war by conducting nuke tests. Brilliant.
What Congress screwed up:
River linking Nuke tests.
Nuke deal can still be made to work for civilian benefit - US engineers can revive their economy and improve our infrastructure - but they prefer not to work in India!!
Congress slept over national irrigation.
Like Germans are engineers, US are technolgists, Japanese are on a different planet altogether, Chinese are mass producers.
Every country has stellar achievements to be proud of.
Revival of ancient grass roots water transport would have been the best Indian achievement.
So far, Congress seems to be turning a blind eye to the 70% Garib Aadmi while focussing on Aam Aadmi.
Nehru must be crying in heaven - after what he did, nobody kept the momentum of infrastructure expansion.
That entire group of people - Nehru, Bhabha, Patel, Shastri, Ambedkar, they all left the work half done.
And since then it has only been worse.
Dhirubhai came along and changed the country, but with crooked methods.
We need a few Nehrus and Vishweshwarayyas.
Only Sreedharan seems to come close nowadays.
Afforestation is India's biggest infrastructure investment..
Can we each sponsor 1-10 trees along National Highways?
Re: Hardly 10% students appear in CBSE Board
by rew ytr on Sep 01, 2009 01:04 AM
tarun mukherjee...get ur history right......plzzzzzzz.....from education to the northeast...seems like u study history only from rss booklets..... were all the 7 iits of india developed during bjp misrule of 1999-2004?????
Re: Re: Hardly 10% students appear in CBSE Board
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 01:56 AM
did we ACTUALLY GET all the 7 IITs functioning during last Congress rule?
Or did we scr@w them with OBC reservation... Seems like you read your history only from your foster mom Sonia.
I just cann't think how far this method will be applicable in a country like India where a number of state boards are there as well as some other board like ICSE also there. Making class-x exam optional means what, the evaluation will be done throughout the years evaluation in a class. It will increase the chances of partiality. This method may be applicable in country like USA where the population is quite low in comparision to India. In India I think a board exam for class-x should be there, but there after we should reform education system by making it more professional based which will make the students more self dependent instead of waiting for a govt. job.
Re: How it will be applicable
by Junior Don on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 PM
Yes smruti you have hit the bull's-eye. It will not only going to promote partialty but also promote charachterlessness in society.
Re: How it will be applicable
by avanammanakkan on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 PM
good if there are chances of partiality...they will soon learn how things work in india...its a sad fact that once u step out of college and enter ur professional life u will soon discover the diry politics and favoritism...there is no escaping it...its better that children learn all this in school itself
turn the whole country into uselss beggers to they line up to receive free stuff from kangress and vote in return.
Perhaps the only good thing in india the school education system will be changed so people talking about merit can be kept quite and this will make sure the pro musi and reservation, NREGA based policies will find leser resistance.
Re: Re: kangress policy
by such jano on Aug 31, 2009 11:45 PM
One of the key kangress policy is to finish the merit and make everyone equal, so they can chose at will whome to give benefits. So far based on merit at least some people who could work hard, claim reward without any favor from congis.
Re: Excellent Decision
by Indian on Sep 01, 2009 12:40 AM
So kumar, you failed eh.
But oh yeah! Congress helped you because now you can access internet from your office where nobody expects you to work since you have been recruited on reserve quota and have no skills.
Great. I hope there are no government jobs left after 10-20 years because you pests have eaten up all the revenue. Then I wish good luck to your next generation, by then, habitual for free-bies.
Re: Re: Excellent Decision
by rew ytr on Sep 01, 2009 01:07 AM
why u brillian men like ndian with no reservation shud have bin with bill gates till now.....bt i see u r still posting replies on a fked up losing site like rediff....
Re: Re: Good decision
by rew ytr on Sep 01, 2009 01:09 AM
CHANGE YER NAME TO "BRAHMIN UPPER CASTE INDIAN".....every dirty phrase which divided india was 1st uttered by brahmins....
is to remove caste based reservations which has destroyed higher education in our country... Please make this system history just like how Arjun Singh became history
Re: The most pressing reform required
by Kumar on Aug 31, 2009 11:20 PM
The caste based reservation is 5000 years old. People who had no talent for education and learning became the priests, people who had not ethics became businessmen, the result India rotted. Now let the lower caste enjoy at least 500 years of reservations since the upper castes have already enjoyed it for 5000 years.
Re: Re: The most pressing reform required
by vspi vspi on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 PM
kumar- God helps those who help themselves- 62 yrs of caste reservations/ benefits have seen the pockets of so called dalit leaders like mayawati, mullayam, chaggan bhujbal, athavle etc swell- the teeming masses are still illiterate & ignorant and BPL. Water seeks its own level- you can't pull it up, nor can you push it down- that's natures law.
