Look at chinese people. They are living like dogs due to the aggression of communist regime who would not hesitate to crush their own people under the tanks.Think about tiananmen square and the recent inidents in xianxung province. Chinese products are fake to the core.International communities should boycott china like north korea.
Re: China is a looser
by Aqua Mariner on Aug 25, 2009 06:06 AM
Brother 2 yrs ago there was a big stir on one of the busiest national higway hundreds of people sitting on the road organised by a kerala based unpatriotic political outfit,even ambulances or interstate bus was not permitted. what you think which is supposed to be done with these people ? Blow kisses or drive tanks on them
Re: Re: China is a looser
by Jaganath Bharat on Aug 25, 2009 05:25 PM
India would never driver over them with tanks. Moreover this is not comparable to the Tianaman square revolution or uprisings in Chinese provinces. The motives in Indian protests are far different than the Chinese uprisings.
Look at chinese people. They are living like dogs due to the aggression of communist regime who would not hesitate to crush their own people under the tanks.Think about tiananmen square and the recent inidents in xianxung province. Chinese products are fake to the core.International communities should boycott china like north korea.
Editorial above narrates the vulnerability of India with China. In order to protect ourselves from chinese aggression, we should have a strong political will to counter the chinese threat. This can be achieved by few ways. In this nuclear era, no country can attack others who is also a nuclear capable. For an instance India can defeat Pakistan in conventional war, but it cannot attack pakistan just like that since it is also nuclear capable. So India will think twice before doing anything in conventional warfare. Otherwise India would have attacked pakistan atleast twice every year.(After Parliament attack,Mumbai 26/11 etc.) But that does not happen only because of Pakistan is capable of attacking atleast two to three Indian cities with nuclear warhead in the worst case scenario. Even though we too have nuclear capability and we can erase pakistan in total we are thinking thrice. Similarly, if we develop nuclear weapons as much as possible to counter Chinese threat and to make chinese think twice before doing anything conventionally. We can even drop our no first use of nuclear weapons if China tries to do any misadventure. We have to develop our nuclear technology in such a way to protect ourselves from others aggression.This is a short term plan. For long term India should develop economically,militarily and democratically.
Re: Re: India Vs China - In the Nuclear Era
by mani baskaran on Aug 25, 2009 04:27 AM
But still.... India would have attacked Pakistan atleat for political stunt.BJP would have attacked pakistan in 2001, atleast for the sake of winning next election. China may also wants to attack India only to cover up internal lapses. So if we have credible deterrance China will think twice like India and its high time to start think in that way.
Re: Re: Re: India Vs China - In the Nuclear Era
by indi man on Aug 25, 2009 04:25 AM
no i am a citizen of the useless nation of india. no doubt about that.
Re: Re: Re: Re: India Vs China - In the Nuclear Era
by mani baskaran on Aug 25, 2009 04:34 AM
No need for you to worry about being Citizen of India.Don't loose your hope.Every individual makes a country.We can still make a difference
Re: Re: Re: Re: India Vs China - In the Nuclear Era
by mani baskaran on Aug 25, 2009 04:33 AM
No need for you to worry about being Citizen of India.Don't loose your hope.Every individual makes a country.We can still make a difference
Re: Re: Re: Re: India Vs China - In the Nuclear Era
by Fluffy Kumar on Aug 25, 2009 04:49 AM
Indi man is a funny guy-but he does make a point about the cowardly behavior of Indian govt.
Indira donated POK after our victory in 1971 war with Pak, Now china and Pak has road route thru POK..all neighbours of india are enemies. Last friend Nepal also became enemy now
Re: INDIRA GANDHI DID MISTAKE
by indi man on Aug 25, 2009 04:28 AM
and india deserves nothing less. In fact why would anybody want to be a friend with anybody without brains. With China and Pakistan you know what you are getting, with India you never know what you get if you get it at all.
Re: Re: INDIRA GANDHI DID MISTAKE
by A A on Aug 25, 2009 05:13 AM
This is true because India is a democracy and takes its time to deliberate the merits and demerits of what to give and what not to.
This is also true in the case of Sri Lankan army requests for help with the LTTE attacks, which was also driven by the political atmosphere of a democracy.
Having said all that, it may seem that authoritative and dicatatorial states such as Pakistan and China (which have no credible democracy) are better off, but you will have to just wait till they come back and bite you in the "u know where".
The assessment of Admiral Mehta is a very important professional and highly credible. There is no need to view it from a jingoistic perspective. Remember, when we were initially struggling in Kargil war and Gen Musharraff visited China, they asked Pak to scale it down. If they truly wanted to downsize India, they could have attacked India near Arunachal Pradesh. It would have been a militarily nighmarish situation. The rivalry of India and China is political and economic. The border dispute is a sign of that. We have to stay vigil with China but try to engage them diplomatically. In my opinion that is the best approach. Both nations are too big and strong for a direct military confrontation. Our success in dealing with China can only come from successfully engaging with Pakistan. This is a difficult but real opportunity for us. Handled carefully, we have to achieve a win-win situation. It is too easy to say or write but too difficult to achieve.
Re: Our best option is to stay vigil and engage them diplomatical
by mani baskaran on Aug 25, 2009 04:47 AM
Yeah you are right. But dealing with Pakistan and china are different. We cannot compare our might with Pakistan's. But China on the other hand is supereior than India in many fronts. So have to follow some kind of Chanakya's tactics.
MJ Akbar was a great writer in UK. Indira Gandhi invited him to join Congress and involved in Indian politics! After Rajiv's time he was bundled out of Congress! No wonder he became an enemy of the Congress today! Today he is not a Congressman, nor a BJP man but nobody in politics! Even Muslim Leage does not want him! Has he become a Chinese agent today? He has no other job than criticising Gandhi family! Why did not do it in Indira's time! Why didnot he criticise Indira's Emergency declaration!
Re: Re: MJ Akbar & His sweat revenge on Congress
by vj reddy on Aug 25, 2009 06:51 AM
read what he says he said about indian politicians and their indifference to reality.Its not just congress but whole indian political setup . grow up guys
Re: I never see any one...
by Happy Indian on Aug 25, 2009 04:05 AM
Do you think all Hind00, sikh and xtian Indians speak positive of India? I don't think so. So don't just blame moslems
Re: Re: Re: I never see any one...
by Happy Indian on Aug 25, 2009 05:07 AM
As if all your hind00s Fheads aren't cursing this country. Keep quite piggy kumar
Re: Re: Re: Re: I never see any one...
by Fluffy Kumar on Aug 25, 2009 07:00 AM
Obviously, you live in a small world buddy boy- go read what a typical muzzie cousin of yours (e.g., Kaleem Kawaja) who are from India, join Pakistani groups in USA, and write nasty stuff on India and Hindus in PakistanlinkDOTcom. But of course, people like you attend sunday bible booklet sessions and play video games (I saw a recent one called the bible games!).
Re: Re: Re: Re: I never see any one...
by Fluffy Kumar on Aug 25, 2009 07:02 AM
P>S> Did you join the dental school? Good luck to you, classes start this week in most dental schools. Just give up on the bible booklet and study science, you will do fine.
There was another article on rediff about how india secretly helped Sri Lanka against LTTE. They used Dornier aircraft stationed in tamilnadu to track the LTTE supply boats even all the way to australian coast all over the indian ocean and bay of bengal, so they could give their whereabouts to the sri lankan military. My thought to this the Indian military can only show its muscle against measly rebel forces whose ships dont even have artillery to defend themselves. When it comes to superior militaries like China our Military pisses in its pants. Even pakistan a country whose population is 10% that of India causes our smart decision makers and military genius to go sleepless. So India in order feel good as a bully bullies a ragtag force like LTTE along with the SLA. Guess the Indian military needs somebody to kick around. Our military is a joke as is our government.
Re: Indian military can only show its might against the LTTE
by Jay on Aug 25, 2009 05:13 AM
No body is pissing in pants, pakistan's military doesnt make smart decisions and about LTTE get your facts right.
who cares whether it was a stab in the front or a shaft up the rear ... let's just leave it for the history books ... let's now live in the past when we can live in the present.
Re: some 50 years later who cares
by Jaganath Bharat on Aug 25, 2009 03:33 AM
This is not a 1-dimensional world. History repeats itself, and what comes around goes around. You goin to close your eyes in the next round? No! Therefore it's time for India to stick a shaft up China's hina.
Re: Re: some 50 years later who cares
by Loan Shark on Aug 25, 2009 03:36 AM
first, history does not always repeat, just appears to be repeating to the f00l1sh people ... second, India does not have the means to st1ck anything up china's rear
china's own people can be its biggest problem .. hopefully, someday they will oppose the regime and overcome the regime's power to crush and dissent
Re: Re: Re: some 50 years later who cares
by Jaganath Bharat on Aug 25, 2009 03:49 AM
India can change it's stand on Tibet, that would be equal to sticking it up China's rear. Why should we continue to honor some bygone PM's concessions, we have different leaders now. We can claim Tibet as part of India, with blessings of our smiling Buddha. Most of China's claims are baseless. We can play that game too...only we'll have to play to win.
