India is being ruled by people whose political inspiration comes from outside the borders. They have no sense of belonging to the land and no pride in the past history when Indian influence stretched from Central Asia to the Philippines. The mindset of the political hierarchy is to exploit, not to serve.
Re: Mindset
by Umashanker Kapoor on Aug 25, 2009 10:48 AM
what sense of belonging did the bbjjpp govet had? showing whatever was secret and then giving disgrace to the army. what policy the bbjjpp govet was worth praising? the indian army lost the chinese war in 1962 mostly because of the human wave of the chinese military personal had stormed the indian posts. right now the chinese are being in trouble in Zannjim=ng trials which are being started under heavy security and the chinese govet wud go the Burmese way.
Re: Re: Mindset
by sarfarosh on Aug 25, 2009 01:41 PM
live in dream .. never think how can you improve and be happy with enemy's little problem .. BJP is also corrupt but at least they are not trying to divide india as congree is doing ..
Re: Re: Mindset
by Nostra Damus on Aug 25, 2009 10:55 AM
aum co living in the past and kapoor has learned nothing from the past, hence will be condemned to repeat history.
Re: kangress will make an mullah
by Umashanker Kapoor on Aug 25, 2009 10:50 AM
yes the angry bold man will lead his team to the front or will start a programmme like the one in the state no. n/one.
The way our politicians are behaving,I think sooner or later we will lose Kashmir and Arunachal Pradesh -both.No strategic planning , no defence readiness.Now a days Parliament hardly discusses anything relevant except some caste based reservations or some schemes in the name of Nehru-Gandhi family.Opposition is in total disarray.Goons are becoming MPs and MLAs,so hardly anything new and innovative is expected from them.The defence services have n't get new weapons for the last 20 yeras.Whenever,some new procurement of weapons is spoken about ,it is scuttled under the garb of corruption or Bofors shadow.The DRDO is like a white elephant who thought their job is over after the Agni missiles in 1980's.Even the short range missiles are yet to be inducted in to the defence services-forget abot the Chinese specific long range missiles. The much touted Arjun battle tank is a misfit and total disaster.New LCAs are there to be taxied on the run way during air shows only.No accountability or audit of DRDO projects.As sson as Our PMs go out of India they try to ape Nehru,nad make a fool of themselves.Witness how Bajpayee and Manmohan Singh agreed with Pakistan's guile. On the other hand Both China nad Pakistan are totally focussed on what they want.Therefore instead of drumming Panchsheel!!!we should be strong and prepared.
Re: Indo-China relations
by Nostra Damus on Aug 25, 2009 04:33 PM
then how stupid are we to elect them again and again ? Face reality indians derives more satisfaction in seeing his neighbour's downfall than in excelling his neighbours
We must put a lots of efforts money & planning into our armed force. In long term buying Arms will not help us. We must carry out detailed studies of our arms & advance.
We are given a promise to make India a super power. For what? Are we going to be like the Thug of Macedonia or some body like that. India stood for peace. We respect other sovereign states. Differences between nations can not be solved by wars. It is against our culture to pile up ammunition to attack some one. These piling up may enhance the productions in some defense establishments. Why should we use our hard earned foreign exchange for that purpose? As soon as an agreement is signed here another agreement will be signed with our neighbours telling them cleverly that India is adding more weapons in its stock and others need to stock-pile enough weapons to defend it. If funds are a problem, it will be provided on soft conditions. Both these acts will help defense industries to flourish. The talk of the terrorism is just a smoke screen. Behind the smoke screen lot of sale deed will be signed unnoticed by the people. To know the conspiracy read messages in the discussion board under "Farmer's body slams signing of FTA with ASEAN" rediff 15.8.09
The media is creating a euphoria about our relationship with neighbours. There is a conspiracy brewing. Here is a message I posted several times. Note the words in capital. Save India
Dear India my Mother Land!
She is weeping!
It all started with the signing of declaration on
The N-deal, surrendering our sovereignty
On the black day
All political parties are out with SCAMS, CRITICISM,**BORDER WAR**
TERRORISM, ACCIDENTS, INTERSTATE DISPUTES, RELIGIOUS DISPUTE, BLAMES etc.
More subjects will be born and die to keep people busy
Like the story of a dog and the bone
Allowing free flow of capital abroad.
Very soon the N-deal will be signed by our “respected PM”.
With his hand tainted while making a scar on Indian democracy
With a dagger sharpened by his 'foreign love'
Putting all hopes on foreigners, not Indians
Not knowing that they will not develop India and Indians for free
Forgetting Bhaba and Nehru and their vision
To get nuclear energy after a decade!
Projecting a glossy picture ahead.
Project schedules are decided by negotiations :)
During the year long visit abroad, sixty times by a big boss
The deals are ready to sign including loans
With intriguing clauses with far reaching consequences
Re: Re: Save India
by roge on Aug 25, 2009 09:13 AM
Yes sunil .. we should have added a littel bit of anti Muslim retro .. then we can make it sound more patriotic .. what say ..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Save India
by Govind Lal on Aug 25, 2009 11:26 AM
Friends Please read the messages in the discussion board under "Farmer's body slams signing of FTA with ASEAN" 15.8.09 rediff and commend.
china will not hesitate to attack us. they are waiting for the right time to do it. We might only have little time up our sleeves.
India needs to move simultaneously on many fronts:
1. Develop indegenous weapons and fast track critical weapons delivery schedules. Show launches to the chinese so that they know of our power. 2. Immidiately find chinese enemies, who will be our good friends. Countries like Japan, US, Vietnam have bitter rivalry with china. These countries will support India and provide crucial help. Countries like Russia, South Korea etc. dont like chinese either and will gladly help India to counter china. 3. India should push for a permanent seat in UNSC urgently and get it done. This way, India will be recognised as an important country in the world which should not be allowed to be destabalised. 4. India should drop its "blind brotherly" attitude towards china and adopt a mature attitude of give and take. If china does not want to be friendly to us, we should not be seen bowing to them. We should make chinese realise that if we are to have a relationship with them, it will be one of mutual respect. Otherwise, we will gladly support Uighurs, Tibetans and all others oppressed by chinese. 5. India should introduce more liberal reforms and attract FDI. Especially in the North East region. Let us develop North East so much that they will never think of leaving us and going to a dictatorial china. We need to develop more SEZ'z in North East.
Re: chinese threat is real and India needs to act now!
by Grizzly on Aug 25, 2009 06:49 AM
6. Develop tax havens in India and let our politicians and businessmen keep their black money here rather than leaving it in swiss banks or other places. This is a reality and we cannot escape from it. This might not look like a morally right decision but it is a strategic decision. We need that money to finance crucial defence and civil infrastructure projects. Why do we go begging to ADB or IMF for money? Once we can keep our black money within our country, ADB and IMF will come to us to borrow money! Goa, Andaman, Nicobar, Daman, Diu etc. are a few places that could be developed to become our tax havens. 7. India needs a more aggressive foreign policy. We need to make some good freinds in the international arena. Sponsor a few roads in Vietnam, some hospitals in Cambodia, schools in Nepal, dams in Lanka etc. Make our neighborhood a friendly place! It will go a long way for India.
Do not let chinese get away with ignoring India! We need to make chinese realise that India is a strong and important neighbour. If they dont treat us with respect, they can forget about global power status, they will have to struggle to even gain a regional power status!
Re: Re: chinese threat is real and India needs to act now!
by indi man on Aug 25, 2009 07:09 AM
it is to demonstrate to the chinese indias power that India helped sri lanka defeat the LTTE. by providing accurate intelligence about LTTE activities. Indeed manmohan singh has proved to himself and to the world indias muslce power when it comes to crushing insignificant rebel forces like LTTE. Manmohan Singh is very sure that the world is shuddering in fear after seeing indias potential in intelligence gathering and covert support.
Re: Re: Re: chinese threat is real and India needs to act now!
by indi man on Aug 25, 2009 07:15 AM
i do kike points 4, 5, 6 everything else is a little immature.
Re: Re: Re: Re: chinese threat is real and India needs to act now
by roge on Aug 25, 2009 09:19 AM
Eer correct me if im wrong .. arent we already supporting the tibiteans in there cause ..And by the way about foreign policy .. jus check our neighbourhood and tell me whoes our esteemed ally ..
There is no point to blame another for ones own mistake nehruSOB himself was a Stab on india's heart by his policies and stupid reforms .China is more or less a responsible nation and global player and it was evident in the 71 War that it dint meddle in any of our affiars.It was the nehrus forward policy of acquiring land which complicted things thru out. Present scenario it now high time to keep the china phobia aside and start a constructive relation with china which would be beneficial for both great nations,(those commies who are unpatriotic can leave india and live in china )If some of the guys thinks chinese crush their own citizens then it is ignorance,cos of all that strictness china is growing to a super power and see our nation what happens every day strikes,bandhs,stirs,million political outfits and fuckdup politicians which makes growth stagnent. before,for those posting a reply for my post just click on to CNN GPS fareed Zakharia's talk with Chinese premier and you will understand. also check out many chinese websites have hard critisisms against their govt and still the W3 is accessable.
Re: china phobia
by PHAM on Aug 25, 2009 06:03 AM
If you are not a bankster, a financester, a fraudster, a bankster paid politician, a soldier in bankster financed army, a war-monger, a weapon dealer, a war-profiteer...then Chinese arsenals is not for you.Be smart, stay clear.
Re: Re: china phobia
by Aqua Mariner on Aug 25, 2009 08:15 AM
Borther ,Im more than smart and with modesty, than yourself. Just make amble knowledge about history to enable you do a better writing.
Re: Re: Re: china phobia
by PHAM on Aug 26, 2009 02:29 AM
What I meant is Chinese arsenals are not for using against India but for international criminals who always want to cause chaos in Asia in order to slow down national developments
