hahahaha, the GODLESS americans want to disscuss religion with Dr singh?? the americans who respect only capitalism/money, and have no time for their close family, and they shamelessly waste more than eat,i was in shock when i saw gang of beggars, and drug addicts every where in san fransisco, i never seen anything like it even in india as we know we are poor country.the hotel staff had advised us not walk too far, as the tourist (or anyone) can get in to trouble.not surprised the muslims are converting the godless americans fater than anyone/anywhere else.even pope from vatcan can not save america from rote
Re: what a shame GOD LESS americans want to talk about relegion.
by Nandini Sanand on Sep 25, 2008 12:56 PM
How shameless the Indians are that they require approval from US for the nuclear deal
Where did Gaer get her news from ? have she validated them or is she basing her facts on the media reports which often times are extremely biased ?
It seems like India is fast becoming a place for some vested interests to cry foul under name of religion as soon as any wrong act is opposed.
How come media is giving so much publicity to these incidents but the death of farmers the corruption in states, the menace of terrorism are totally ignored.
It is media responsibility to give unbiased reports and not favor any political party or agenda.
BJP may be pro-Hindu but that hardly means they are anti-Muslim/Christian and it hardly means that they suddenly become violent against all non-Hindus.
In this country every political out fit has its own share of drawbacks the biggest one being corruption so the media should focus more on corruption and terrorism rather than blatantly blaming the BJP and Hindus for everything thats happening.
In all probability India has the maximum amount of religious diversity and freedom.
I have yet to see a single non-Christian as president of the US, so we dont want advice from someone who cant practice religious freedom in their own politics.
Third class Cheap Pastors sowing the seed of hatred thereby reaping the harvest of third class Christians in India.
In west, Decent christains do not wish to go to church to listen misguided preachings from people such as newlife. Thats the reason churches in USA and Europe almost deserted. All the missionaries employ third class failed christians and send them to India (and third world countries) thus comes with thirdclass preachings.
Re: Open Message to MMS: Inform Americans not to send third class criminals as Christian Pastors to India.
by manu on Sep 23, 2008 04:10 PM
Are you first class? In what manner? Before whom? Before your family? Before your locality? Before your country? There is none righteous, no not one.
Self pride will gain nothing for you.
Can you defend what they said before them.
You have a comment column here and you wrote in an in sensible manner.
Let me have the names of your so called Thrid class pastors from Europe and USA
Re: Open Message to MMS: Inform Americans not to send third class criminals as Christian Pastors to India.
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 12:06 PM
True christians do not go to churches as they found bible is full of stories and jesus and st thomas are mythical figures of this cult.only new neo converts brainwashed with hysterical emotional preaching by south india evangaliests who are hatred towards vedica dharma, are more agitated and become agressive in conversion agenda.particularly uneducated fools in the country are attracted towards this cult of western which was driven out from europe already.last year attendence in a famous church in london during new year eve was just 31 people while members of church services who did not renew the membership were more than 340 people. Soon america is following this after george bush is out of power,new government headed by obama will not bring religious in to the government.
Re: Open Message to MMS: Inform Americans not to send third class criminals as Christian Pastors to India.
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 12:06 PM
True christians do not go to churches as they found bible is full of stories and jesus and st thomas are mythical figures of this cult.only new neo converts brainwashed with hysterical emotional preaching by south india evangaliests who are hatred towards vedica dharma, are more agitated and become agressive in conversion agenda.particularly uneducated fools in the country are attracted towards this cult of western which was driven out from europe already.last year attendence in a famous church in london during new year eve was just 31 people while members of church services who did not renew the membership were more than 340 people. Soon america is following this after george bush is out of power,new government headed by obama will not bring religious in to the government.
Re: at least tell wht will be the situation in INDIA after ten years RELIGIONS IN PERCENTAGE IN ALL STATES
by Kris iyer on Sep 23, 2008 12:30 PM
truehindu, 1) Most Western reporters and people of the world, depend upon India's "English language media" for facts and opinions. Unfortunatley, most of the "secular" editors and reporters are very dominant in this media. On both facts and judgments of INDIA, they give a "twisted" account. Truth is sacrificed for "political correctness". How the world views INDIA is determined by our own English language media. 2) "Political necessities" dominate almost all aspects of life in India. Today, INDIA is a country OF politicians, FOR politicians and BY politicians. Even riots and terrorist bombs do not matter to our politicians, AS LONG AS THEY CAN WIN JUST ONE MORE ELECTION. 3) EVERY COMMUNITY in India is unhappy because of "pseudo- socialism" - the "license-quota raj", "pseudo-policies", such as reservations on caste and communal basis, and "pseudo-administration" such as how the Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme is implemented - or as NOT implemented, I should say. 4) Since the 1970s, our "political caste", the most dominant in India's history, has been busy converting Indian civilisation and culture to a "pseudo- secular - composite culture" without any of the old values, but only CORRUPTION, DISHONESTY AND MONEY as the THREE leading values. 5) Free speech in India's democracy means free only to CRITICISE HINDUISM. No free speech in relation to other religions, because they are all good VOTE BANKS. FREEDOM OF RELIGION means subsidies for religions other than Hinduism.
Re: at least tell wht will be the situation in INDIA after ten years RELIGIONS IN PERCENTAGE IN ALL STATES
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 02:48 PM
Swamy Vivekanda rightly said about religions in one word-
While other religions offers tailormade same measurements ready made shirts and pants to every soul, hinduism gives cloth of shirts and pants and ask souls to stitch according to their sizes and suitable measurements of their choice.
while christianity and islam are faith based religions,hinduism is based purely on spiritualism. best scripture to read about hinduism is bagwath geetha of any edition. christians,muslims brothers,read bagwat geetha and enrich your spiritual knowledge and return to your ancesstors religion.they were changed by force under muhal/british period under sword and gun.now this is an opportunity for you people to correct by returning to hinduism.
Re: at least tell wht will be the situation in INDIA after ten years RELIGIONS IN PERCENTAGE IN ALL STATES
by Ram Sharma on Sep 23, 2008 01:55 PM
English media is generally anti Hindu.
I find it completely baffling that the most insidious, abusive and inflammatory messages are allowed to be retained on the message board while the innocous ones and those calling for calm and sanity are removed. I begin to question the wisdom of the moderator. NOW REMOVE THIS MESSAGE
Re: Moderator
by Indian Heart on Sep 23, 2008 11:48 AM
I second your thaught my friend. This Rediff community is for those who want to spread religious/cast descrimination. Not a place for peace loving sane Indians. I think the moderators are also biased.
Re: Moderator
by kamal baluja on Sep 23, 2008 11:52 AM
No my friend I don't think they are biased. That is a strong word. But they have shown wrong judgement in few cases. This forum allows us Christians to atleast present our views - even though we know what the response of the majority contributors will be. In this way we service our Lord
Re: Moderator
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 12:29 PM
Jesus do not lift the christians to heaven but only pope.Last year pope in a special prayer section granted status of 'HEAVEN'to children below 7 years who were not bapitised before the birth of jesus.these children were kept in a state of place called 'LIMBO" for past 2000 years and Pope granted and lifted them to 'HEAVEN after 2000 years. people,still good and honest,but not bapitised however be the faith on jesus, were kept in a state called ''PUREGATORY" a place between heaven and hell.Last year pope granted them status of 'HEAVEN'to these good bodies souls. since christianity do not believe in immortal souls like hinduism, we wonder how these bodies are kept in 'LIMBO'and 'PUREGATORY" for past 2000 years.whether in coffin or in open? any christian is welcome to clarify this.
So jesus do not lift and grand heaven but only pope in vatigan.christianity is full of stories,pitfalls,falsehood unrealistic theories not suitable to any living being in earth. indian christians must read and understand atleast the above two words 'LIMBO' and 'puregatory' in encyclopidia.
Re: Freedom to express, to choose and to live
by Srikanth Sp on Sep 23, 2008 03:09 PM
Mr. Onlooker, if you can face the truth pl analyse these things. You are talking abt poverty and basic things for poor so that they are converting. In that case, where is the need to go to rich people also for evalgelization. Secondly, who has made the people poor. So called secularists in connivance with missionaries who have plundered money through corruption. 60 long years of their rule has robbed the people of their welath, education,etc. They hae craeted poverty and distressed population, and handing over them to missionaries saying they are poor in need of services. Secualrists have got both Mocey through power and consoildated minority vote through missionaries. The combination missionaries and politicians are doing it. They are the real culprits of poverty.
Re: Freedom to express, to choose and to live
by truehindu on Sep 23, 2008 11:36 AM
OK Y R U PEOPLE CONVERSING BY GIVING MONEY FOOD IF U WANT TO HELP POOR GIVE THEM JOB EDUCATION IN CONVENT SCHOOL WILL YOU GIVE FREE ADMISSION FOR POORS TELL
Re: Re: Freedom to express, to choose and to live
by Onlooker on Sep 23, 2008 11:48 AM
People of any religious or non-religious background can and should do that.
Re: Freedom to express, to choose and to live
by Onlooker on Sep 23, 2008 11:47 AM
You don't have to give everything. You provide the basic things which are food, shelter and education to come up in life. Personally I don't believe people offer money and I don't believe people are converting for money.
OUR FORELEADERS HAD DONE A BIG MISTAKE BY MAKING PARTITION IN OUR COUNTRY THEY GAVE PAKISTAN BANGLADESH THEY ARE NOW A BIG THREAT TO US NOW THESE PEOPLE THT THE US ARE ALSO SUPPORTING THEM WE ARE NOW SUFFERING FROM THREE WAYS WHTS THE SOLUTION NOW
Re: BIG BIG MISTAKE
by Guest on Sep 23, 2008 11:49 AM
Dear friends, few generations back my ancestors embraced christianity, lots of my relatives and friends are Hindus, noone has behaved with me differently, even the ex-BJP minister Radhakrishnan is my relative, they are in good harmony with us, everybody in our family are very patriotic, We celebrate Independance day more than any other hindu in our place, But when I see this discussion board, its very shocking you guys are treating us like some junk things, beleiving in hindu gods is your beleif and beleiving in Jesus is my beleif, whats there to fight in this? fighting like this is not going to bring any good for our society, during tsunami everybody came forward to show their help, muslims, hindus and christians, they didnt see the relegion or caste, pls dont be fanatics, respect other relegions, no one is going to take away your relegion frome you, people who are converting for money are not true christians, at the same time if someone likes the teachings of christianity and come to it you dont have the right to stop him, pls brothers dont fight, im not saying this to create sympathy, but i want you and me to live peacefully
Re: BIG BIG MISTAKE
by Rationalist on Sep 23, 2008 12:26 PM
In India religion & politics go hand in hand. Not every Hindu votes for BJP. But no Christian nor muslims vote for BJP. All non-muslims & non-Christians support BJP. They want to chuck the lethargic corrupt unpatriotic Congress & set the start of new era from noe British rule.
Re: BIG BIG MISTAKE
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 12:14 PM
Guest,your ancestors had done the mistake by embrassing christianity due to any reasons of either money or job or government award or belief in religious preaching by whitemen missionaries.i have seen recently in a hotel in district head quarter town some priests from poland came to attend the church festival of car (which was never be the practice of christianity but being copied from hindus).all local priests more than 100 when and kissed the hands of polish priests by putting down their knees as beggers.does it not look like a pre independence period of falling at the feet of britishers. it was a shocking sight to see these indian priests falling at the feet of polish priests and kissing their hands. christianity is disgrace to indian pride.
Re: BIG BIG MISTAKE
by Truth on Sep 23, 2008 12:49 PM
Mr.Galilio...We Hindus also go on our knees to take blessings from the temple priests.Why for?Because they are our elders and we respect them.Not because we are their slaves.Think before writing anything ABC..
Re: BIG BIG MISTAKE
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 01:40 PM
Truth,we fall at the feet of indian elders but not at the feet of a foreign elders.let vatigan appoint an indian as pope first.later i would agree with your statement there is nothing wrong for indian fathers to fall at the feet of foreign priests in christianity once vatigan accept mentally an indian as pope which is most unlikely.
Re: one survey told in next 10 years hindus will be 50 percentage declined if conversion takes place
by galilio on Sep 23, 2008 12:17 PM
White house in washington is the head office for JOSHVA PROJECT 11 headed by the ex legal council of mother terasa funded by american government through NGOS which pump money to all missionaries/evangelists to engage in conversion agenda.
