MR BUSH IS SUPPORTING THEM WHO ARE THRE TO SUPPORT US THINK DO WE HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS if tht happens india will be called as CSI (CHRISTIAN STATES OF INDIA)
If a religion is politicized then that religions is powerless because it is defended by humanbeings. We can logically assume that God is not in that religion
Re: Is God in the religion?
by Nagesh Bhagwat on Sep 23, 2008 10:37 AM
It depends on what you actually beleive in - I feel Man created God and not the other way round.
Re: Monotheism
by R Balasubramanian on Sep 23, 2008 10:53 AM
Koodos to your bold and correct explanations. These criminals take shelter under minority and indulge in all attrocities and justify their act to emotional outburst. Why is Gaer is silent on forceable conversion of Hindus? Is it justified? Why should the missioneries convert? The already converted hindu christians plight is pitiable and pathetic and should be seen to be believed. They are unacceptable both by christians and hindus for their haste decision for monetory benefits. The inner motive of conversion is to siphon the government benefits for the real downtrodden. If there is real god, the convertors and convertee will not be pardoned and they will meet the consequences sooner or later.
Re: Guts
by R Balasubramanian on Sep 23, 2008 10:56 AM
he is sonia chamcha. He will not do it. The weak PM of india is Singh and the worst President ever US had is Bush.
WHT TO DO WITH THESE MINORATIES MR BUSH IS SUPPORTING THEM WHO ARE THRE TO SUPPORT US THINK DO WE HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS if tht happens india will be called as CSI (CHRISTIAN STATES OF INDIA)
Why is such a big hue and cry about religion. If some churches were attacked the arch bishop lashed back what about the forced convertion happening in karnataka and other states. He says he has no information. Everytime in tv channels the proof is being shown, the programs on tv keeps on asking people to join christianity. Also govt has to give orders to karnataka when in kashmir PDP created so much problem for amarnath yatra for hindus where was government that time ????
Re: Mind your own business
by R Balasubramanian on Sep 23, 2008 11:13 AM
The answer to all your questions is dis-Unity among Hindus. If United,immediately, no one will dare open their mouth against Hindus. Till then we have to suffer, silently. The best way to show our unshakeable unity is in not casting our vote in the forthcoming general elections. But alas, most of the hindus will be lured with freebees and they wil fall flat to the bait compromising their self esteem and respect.
We don't need advice from US on secularism. Hindus, who r the majority community in the country r the most secular in the world. We hv PM & Super PM from minorities (Sikh & Christian respectively) and sometime back we had President also from a minority community (Muslim). All three most powerful persons were from minority communities. Is there any country in the world with so much minority empowerment? Does USA, or for that matter any Christian majority country from Europe or elsewhere, hv or ever had President, VP etc from non Christians?
What happens to the conscience of USA, Italy etc when Hindus r killed, butchered and made refugees in their own country? Or is Hindu blood useless, only Christian blood has all value?
Huge amount of money goes from Europe etc to the missionaries in India for the purpose of conversion by fooling and spreading superstitious rumours. Gandhiji was also against such conversions. Raja Ram Mohan Roy was also offered a lot for converting. The main purpose of these conversions is to make everyone feel inferiour to white race.
Re: We don't need advice from US on secularism
by kamal baluja on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM
I was not giving my advice but expressing my opinion/views. Surely I have a right to do that? or is it only 'secular' people like you who are entitled to it? As the fear expressed in my message you have well demonstrated it - by not accepting that others can have different viewpoint. Now I am ready for you to react - in predictable fashion.
Re: We don't need advice from US on secularism
by Ram Sharma on Sep 23, 2008 11:51 AM
dear kamal. Everyone has right to express one's opinion / views. What is there in the message, which shows that I don't accept others can hv different view point. Hindus believe in Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam and Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah. It is Christians, who r taught that only Christians r right, other religions r false.
Moreover can u give me any example on the earth, where people from minority community r occupying all ruling posts and still it is not an issue. It is so only bcz Hindus r the most peace loving and secular.
If our Pm is strong enough, then he should say"mind your business".But he is a coward, so he will agree with Bush and may sign a pact giving special protection to Christian missionaris who are converting the Hindus..
Well if the State and Central governments fail in their constitutional duties to protect all Indians then outsiders (foreign govts and other groups) will intervene. And we cannot claim we don't care. We have to set our own house in order by ourselves. We are emerging superpower and will in the future sit at the high table of global comity. But unfortunately our mindset is still medieval where we only know how to react with mobocracy and voilence. There is no accomodation for others' views no discussing things in a civilised manner. But rather impose the majority will on the minorities and if they don't agree then use brute force. We have to change our mindset, be plurastic and accomodative. That is true democracy that is true freedom. That is what India should be.
Re: We have to change.
by Ram Sharma on Sep 23, 2008 10:16 AM
Hindus r the most secular in the world. They don't need any advice from u or USA. See my message for proof.
