I too was strongly against homosexual relations and still I am to some extent. But today after reading some scientific articles on the topic, listening to some other people and looking at the 'h**da' community in our country, I have given a space of openness towards them. If they are really biologically oriented, who am I to judge them? And if they are not responsible for their biological formation, can we blame them? Finally, irrespective of their behaviour, should we not uphold their human dignity?
Re: May be we have to be objective?
by shenn on Nov 06, 2008 03:38 PM
It's not the question of a new child being born but an orientation. Take a papaya tree - do all of them give fruits? does it mean, it is not a papaya tree.
Besides there could be many other reasons for not having a child.
Re: May be we have to be objective?
by Jaanusgirl on Nov 19, 2008 12:47 PM
I don't know any babies who are sexually active. Do you? However, did you or your parents know you were straight when you were born? I doubt it. Same way, no one can tell someone is gay when they are born. It shows up in how one finds the same sex or opposite sex attractive when they're of an age to realize that attraction. For me it was when I was a teenager. For others it's when they're younger or older.
Shenn, you gave a perfect answer with the example of a papaya tree.
Re: May be we have to be objective?
by DS on Nov 07, 2008 02:00 AM
you are an idiot beyond imagination... can science prove that a new born is a straight either? the answer is NO.
Re: May be we have to be objective?
by shenn on Nov 06, 2008 03:35 PM
There are many things that science cannot prove but has given enough indications to the possible sexual orientation.
Re: May be we have to be objective?
by s b on Nov 06, 2008 02:39 PM
i congratulate you. millions of people in our country have access to same knowledge that u went thru, but will not make effort to reas it and just spew hate and cliches here.
here opposing Homosexualit are along the following lines:
1> It is unnatural (without defining what unnatural is). Is masterbation, oral sex, not getting married etc unnatural?
2> If we tolerate homosexuality tomorrow we will have to tolerate ______ (fill in some crazy imagination - incest, corruption, societal collapse etc). Guys lets focus on homosexuality per se - whether it is tolerable or not and why. Please do not project argument - unless off course one can provide a study/argument that homosexuality leads to incest or corruption etc.
3> Pure hatred - find and kill homosexual babies. No answer to them other than - biggest desease is hate.
many indians have the tendancy to tolerate homosexuality only to sound progressive or cool and also because its a western trend/mostly seen in the west.
garbage is produced in every natural cycle and in every natural methods. homosexuality is the garbage of sexuality.just becos it exists and just becos many follow it doesnt mean its right. many take drugs but is it right??
Re: garbage
by zahid maqbool on Nov 06, 2008 02:37 PM
to know whether its right or not, think about it would the world be ok if each and every individual was a homosexual, I think not.. the human race will not survive and that will be our end.. so definitely its something which should be banned and considered as a crime...
Re: garbage
by ramen das on Nov 06, 2008 02:40 PM
So illogical brother... tell me one thing...if all become celibate the world will survive?... Many a religious man upholded celibacy... so?...
This talibanistic intolerance & tendency 2 term anything as crime sucks to the core...
Re: garbage
by s b on Nov 06, 2008 02:09 PM
Again, what is taking drug got to do with homosexuality? Why debate taking drugs in this topic. Next you will say - Women should not take food - many take drugs but is it right?
moron, at least give a well thought argument, why homosexualty is wrong.
Re: Straight?
by s b on Nov 06, 2008 01:56 PM
It is majority view. Are left handies abnormal? Should they be outlawed? Whys are right handers called "righties" (word originated from Right as in correct). It is just a majority point of view.
as homsexuality,which is traditionally considered as pervertion is getting accpeted,in future some perverts,just like todays homos,may campaign for incest too..point to ponder!
Re: So,in future ppl may say incest is not abnormal!
by s b on Nov 06, 2008 01:49 PM
It is a stupid argument. Like: Today Bollywood makes movies with Women wearing skirts. tomorrow they maybe naked - so ban Bollywood.
Boss debate an actual premise (homosexuality) not a projected premise (what if scenario like incest legalization).
Tell me objectively why homoseuality is perversion, do not stretch it to Incest - nobody is supporting incest.
Re: So,in future ppl may say incest is not abnormal!
by sanjay on Nov 06, 2008 01:57 PM
objectively,same gender sexual preference is labelled as pervertion by medical experts and psychiatrists!