RE:What difference between BJP and Communists
by pratap singh on Jul 08, 2008 01:04 PM
ok..here is the answer. Left has been categorically opposing nuke deal and are also part of the government. Their taking support back means minority government. OK? Now, the BJP is not saying that they are against the nuke deal. They want to bring down government on other issues like inflation. OK? if their is vote on nuke deal, left will vote NO and BJP will vote YES. But before that happens, the problem is that moment government goes for nuke deal, govermnet has to pass the trust vote and then both BJP and LEFT vote NO. Ok? Do you want BJP to vote YES for trust vote or what? thats not possible...they are north and south poles of indian politics. Hope you understand.
RE:What difference between BJP and Communists
by Ravan Raj on Jul 08, 2008 01:13 PM
Mr south indian .I feel You are a student of congress pary. Left Parties are fully opposing the N-deal as it favours china. but BJP stands that we will use uranium for military purposes also as the deal restrics others from doing it. due to our neighbours(china-pak) are not signed the agreement till now. ravanrajs.blog spot.com
RE:What difference between BJP and Communists
by South Indian on Jul 08, 2008 01:19 PM
did you read anything about this deal ravan raj?? the 123 agreeemnt is published, you should have a look first..
For your understanding, this deal is not for any military purpose, it is a civilian nuc deal, energy purposes... nobody is going to give you fuel for nuclear weapons sining agreements!! dont ever keep such notions..
RE:RE:What difference between BJP and Communists
by Ravan Raj on Jul 08, 2008 02:22 PM
No agreement is their with US also which hold mass N-Weapons.But they aslo use the same uranium for military purpose.This N-Deal will give US the right to take action aginst india if it has moved with N-military programs provoked bY china or pak.
RE:What difference between BJP and Communists
by South Indian on Jul 08, 2008 01:09 PM
Pratap singh, there is no use at all trying to find hypothetical reasoning to justify BJP backstabbing Indias interests!!
"My party is against the Indo-U.S. nuclear deal and will support the Left parties stand" - Venkayah Naidu (last week) He went one step further to declare that if he and his party comes to power the deal will be no more!! BJPs PM offer to Mulayam was also on LEFT lines. Jaswant simply told there is no difference between communists and BJP on the deal issue!! Better you get some updates on those!
RE:BJP-Communists alliance ???
by mohan kumar on Jul 08, 2008 01:00 PM
Nothing wrong in BJP-Comuunists alliance in next election. If congress can have alliance with their arch rival CPM, why not BJP ?. Congress cheated lefts after 4 years long illicit relations and succesfully choose Mulla Mulayam for remaining 1 year. It has been noticed that, after Soniaji became congress president, congress party also changed their attitude and not willing for any agreement only interested in arrangements. The credit goes to Soniaji for this foreign methode.
RE:BJP-Communists alliance ???
by South Indian on Jul 08, 2008 01:13 PM
There is nothing wrong in any party allying with some other party to form a govt or whatevr... nothing wrong in that.. In fact it was BJP who made VP Singh the PM with left support... were comrades then... can be again too... nobody complain
But there is something wrong in parties coming together to subotage national interests... against countrys long term vision and policy... The nuc deal exactly falls there...
On one side ANP says, US will look and deal with us through Hyde act not 123.
Well if at all that is the case, it is all the more better. In that case US will be limiting its Nuclear options with INDIA. That means we will do more bussiness with Russia/Australia / France and Japan.
But than ANPrasad wants India to have free acess to US Nuclear technology !! Well well , on one side ANP and many other (Mostly Commies) say India has nothing to buy from US, as they have 40 year old technology and what not.
If that be the case than let USA keep its Technology in Reprocessing / Enrichment etc a closely gaurded secret , and any way USA does not want to sell it either.
So it comes out AN Prasad wants to just Oppose.
Where as MM singh has very clear thoughts, he wants to open Uranium supply route and also wants India to import reactor designs. Which we are free to import from many other countries except USA. It is just a case of OPEN TENDER/BID.
BJP was ready to sign the deal if they got a 50% of what MMS managed (Talbott - US official who was in charge/involved in India affias during NDA power) And now they dont! so what is going on???
He was BJPs national security adviser when they were in power... The guy who knows more about the deal than Advani... Why he supports it? Why he call BJP a bunch of oppurtunists???
communist party leaders directly suppressing indias growth indirectly supporting china.They want make greater Bangla including west bengal. For heaven sake dont support these enemies.
They opposed economic reforms...all the bjp and their vhp, rss, bajragdals were in the stret when congress came up with the new economic policy... created all mayhem across india...
Information technology, computers, telecom all initiatives by Congress were opposed tooth and nail by BJP... they had very strange reasons (maybe those in mental hospitals may understand BJP arguments)...
In summary, NEVER EVER listn to this BJP... they behave like because most of them are uneducated bigmouths, no vision and nurture their interets than Indias intrests.. forget them... they are good for nothingin this country.. go ahead with the deal
RE:NEVER EVER LISTEN TO BJP - IF U WANNA SOMETHING GOOD
by Angelo deSouza on Jul 08, 2008 01:09 PM
Hahahahaha....lol, lol, lol...good one, South Indian :-)
Russia Twisting India's Arms over the Gorshkov Air craft carrier. USA holding India by the Nose over the Nuclear Deal and the "Modern Globalised Economy". In the latest Taliban Attack over our embassy, we are action-less.
USa is a "Control Freak" and will do anything to control every nation using one excuse or another.
What if USA stops supplying uranium to our plants, after they've been build at a great cost? The U.S.S. TRenton is a ship we've bought from USA but it says that we can't use it during war and every year USA experts will come to inspect it. This is what happens when ever USa establishes friendship. They've ditched Europe & Japan, as they no longer serve USA's interests.
Much of the "Economic Progress" we have had is only because George Bush said "India's prosperity is in US interests". Meaning, if it weren't in its self interests, USA wud've "beggared" India. Please let me know your views
The BJP trouble makers are not interested in any nation building... All what they interested is brnging down the govt at any cost, whatever way it may be... they are backstabbing the nation by opposing something like nuc deal
RE:BJP interest
by mohan kumar on Jul 08, 2008 12:47 PM
Why are you blaming BJP. BJP is nowhere in the scene. As msin opposition BJP has the right bring down the government at any way at any cost. Every thing happening because of the illicit political relationship with CPM. Theirs was not a arranged marriage and they did share bed on temporary adjustment.
RE:BJP interest
by South Indian on Jul 08, 2008 12:53 PM
No RESPONSIBLE political aprty (that too with a national tag) will ever DO ANYTHING AT ANY COST !! Here BJP is playing with national interests and trying to backstab the country. That never happen in any fruitful democracy! Congress did support BJP on issues/policies of strategic importance while they were in opposition. Do ANYTHING AT ANY COST is jehadi mindset, anti-naional.
RE:BJP interest
by pratap singh on Jul 08, 2008 12:58 PM
Hello...did BJP ever say that they are against the nuke deal? They want to bring down the government on other issues like inflation. Why are you so much against BJP?
RE:BJP interest
by Angelo deSouza on Jul 08, 2008 01:12 PM
Hey Pratap, If the BJP are not against the "nuke deal" why are they not supporting the Congress ??? Have they turned "mental" after consuming too much cow piss ??? :-)
RE:BJP interest
by South Indian on Jul 08, 2008 01:03 PM
"My party is against the Indo-U.S. nuclear deal and will support the Left parties stand" - Venkayah Naidu (last week)
He went one step further to declare that if he and his party comes to power the deal will be no more!! Who is Venkayah Naidu???
RE:BJP interest
by South Indian on Jul 08, 2008 01:28 PM
ravan raj, this nuc tests and all are just silly stupid reasons to find some excuses to oppose it, with no substance in it... no country will ever say (US or whoever) that somebody can develop and test nuc test on their own will and convenience... and in fact those who havi or intend o have it will never say they wont do it, infact they will, at their own convenience.. we did it in the past... from india gandhis time..
and now again... after testing nucs already prepared by previous govts, vajpaye went to UN and unilaterally declared a moratorium (stop) on tests! i dont know who gave him the authority but lave it! other than that ther is no restriction on india to test.. an if you read the 123 agreement there is "provisions" there to "escape" it..
RE:BJP interest
by Ravan Raj on Jul 08, 2008 01:09 PM
Mr south naidu told that we wont accept the conditions like preventing N-test in the Deal.Its not canceling the N-deal But Gandhi topy wallhas after 60 yrs kept our country on the feet of USA by accepting all his conditons blindly.
RE:BJP interest
by ravi shankar on Jul 09, 2008 06:25 AM
tell that to your congress friends. they got slapped in goa, jharkhand trying to topple govts.