Oh! the American fundemental organisation is suffering from ignorence problem about Hindu religion and its contribution to world.
To be frank same is the case of our own convent educated Hindus!
It is shame on us, with this big population and grate civilisation does not do much for internal education.It is better start now than before loosing every thing.
hey guys..i feel bad some guys are blaming christians for converting using money..there might be those happening..but those are useless guys who have no sense..
dont remember the sacrifice and love of christians in india..from schools..hospitals..a lot..
India today has a lot of bpo..smart english speaking people..all is the grace received from the christian presence in india..
atleast be thankful to people like mother teresa who even lifted the lepers and beggars..which u guys cant even do..
instead of speaking all bla bla..
try to save a soul providing atleast a one bowl meal..
can u?
u guys are stingy..jealous..arrogant..
no wonder why the good graham staines in gujarat was burnt alive with his children..
he dint do any conversion..only was serving the poor and needy there..
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by Sameer K on Jul 13, 2007 12:35 PM
Still Christian intolerance, hatredness to others faith, forceful conversion of poor and illiterate people these are worst about christians. they are slow poisoned python did you forget inquisition, crusade in Goa and all over the world, even north east india mass coversion, bodoland, tripura and Aasam are the great sufferers of these parasites.
RE:RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by GShanker S on Jul 13, 2007 01:02 PM
Well said Sameer... What you say is absolutely true. Fox with the skin of Sheep.
RE:RE:RE:RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by venkat on Jul 13, 2007 12:25 PM
To be precise, Will you condemn this protest by christian fundamentalist org in US? just like our secular friends (hindus) in India condemn any act of slightly hindu related (like vande mataran etc.,)
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by venkat on Jul 13, 2007 12:23 PM
Ok Agreed with you. When christians proceed in India against Hindu fundamentalist,I just ask you this: Why you condemn this protest now done by your religion's fundamentalist organization in US? In this messages forum, I have not found even a single chrisitian condemning the protests but lots of christians who praised them.
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by Krishna on Jul 13, 2007 12:43 PM
Every person has a right to protest AND a right to practice the religion he believes in. But when it takes different turn leading to violence, torture, or death, THEN THAT should be condemned by ALL. Religion is a matter of an individual's conscience. In a truly democratic and secular society, a person should have the right to follow what religion HE believes in, not his community's, or his parents', or his country's. If I want to follow the religion of African Pygmies, AND propagate it, then I have EVERY Right to do so. If some people convert to the religion of African Pygmies, because of my preaching, then THEY have EVERY Right to do so, because this is a free and secular country. Likewise, if others dont like us following African Pygmies religon, and PROTEST against that, then they also have EVERY Right to do so, this being a free country with FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION. The MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, KEEP YOUR PROTESTS PEACEFUL, like those Americans did. DONT kill, maim, BURN (like Hindus did Graham Stains and his family), torture (Like the Roman Catholic Christians did 400 years back), do acts of terrorism (like some Muslims do today) in religion's name. Every individual has his freeedom to follow or convert to, or preach any religion he wants. Then see how our country will develop.
RE:RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by Kiran Kumar on Jul 13, 2007 12:38 PM
Dare to do the same thing in Pakistan or any other Muslim country.. They will kick ur ass...buddy.
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by shivaji kesarkar on Jul 13, 2007 02:22 PM
I agree with you,Mr Kiran Kumar. Chritianity is a religion of saints. The hindu community is very tolerent. I dare these guys to build a church in any of the muslim countries.
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by GShanker S on Jul 13, 2007 01:00 PM
HA HA HA... Same eye...!?! If you say so. Just take a look at the pictures of innocents who were killed in Iraq.
Beating and burnt alive is far better than the incidents in Iraq.
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by dhiman ghose on Jul 13, 2007 12:52 PM
graham staines was in Orrisa, not in Gujrat. His words in a "sermon" the night he was murdered, "If monkey can be a god, I can be a super-god" ... there was a hanuman celebration going on in the same village ... how he was serving the poor?
RE:RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by Vivek iyer on Jul 13, 2007 12:53 PM
Christians missionaries n people like u r the worst thin to happen 2 india..u'll r like the guests who shameless betrayed the host..u parasites can stoop to any low..yr father n mother got converted for a few hundred rupees n not coz of anything else..u'll r the bad blood which flowed in hinduism..gud u dont belong here..yr foreign sponsers will fund u for yr efficient begging skills..yr god himself has dubious credentials..first try to find out how he was born...wake up u gospel preaching mongrel!!!
RE:RE:RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by Vivek iyer on Jul 13, 2007 01:00 PM
Sam u have only one hope-Convert to Hinduism and redeem yrself..goin to yr Paedophile "Brothers" and yr tainted churches aint goin to help!
Else i'll give u Rs.500, please come and join Hindusim /Buddhism/Sikhism/ Islam....u hav so many options...make up yr mind fast..500 bucks at stake!!
RE:dont forget the christian love(india)
by Kiran Kumar on Jul 13, 2007 12:36 PM
Hi all,
People misunderstand Hinduism as just a religion. But is lot more than a religion. Any doubts or u want to know what hinduism is all about then plz visit this site. http://www.hinduwisdom.info/index.htm
The USA was founded by protestant christians who wanted a country which would open its arms to immigrants who wanted a free and secular place, and where politics and religion are not combined. That's why there are so many immigrants in the USA from diverse countries, who entered USA for many reasons. The Jews to escape persecution from Nazis, Indians like us to earn more money, or to use higher technology etc. The USA has embraced them all and has given them equal opportunities in all fields. Many different religions are practised there without any religious persecution whatsoever. People can convert to 10 religions within 10 days if they want to, as religion is considered a very personal matter, as it rightly is. This broadmindedness, this ability to embrace all and sundry as one of their own, has made USA, a VERY YOUNG NATION, the superpower of the world. We Indians have a lot to learn from the USA. Though a secular nation, we still are insecure and immature regarding religious beliefs. We need to understand that religion is a personal matter and should be left to the individual to decide. Why bother what religion our friend or neighbour is following? Why bother if they convert to any other religion if they are not satisfied with the present one? That's purely PERSONAL. Once our attitude changes to this, then there wont be religious tensions, or insecurites regarding religion. Let us all learn to be broadminded, let us embrace all people as one of our own, let free our n
GITA,RAMAYNA,MAHABHARATA,NARDA BHAKTI SUTRAS,ASHTAVAKRA MAHAGITA, AND NOS OF OTHER RESEARCH WORK BY GREAT SAGES.
WHAT IS THEIR RELEVANCE?
LIKE MODERN SCIENCE ,VEDAS ARE LIKE THEORY OF RELATIVITY WHICH RELATES US WITH THE CELETIAL OBJECTS OR FORCES,SIMMILARLY MANTRAS OF VEDAS CONNECTS US WITH UNIVERSAL CONCIOUS FORCES(DEVTAS).
RAMAYAN AND MAHABHARATA IS LIKE NEWTONIAN MECHANICS WHICH IS APPLICABLE IN DAILY LIFE.
UPNISHDAS ARE LIKE QUANTUM MECHANICH WHICH DEALS AT THE SUB ATOMIC LEVEL,SIMMILARLY UPNISHADAS TAKE US TO THE DEPTHS OF ATAMA AND REVEALS ITS SECRETS.
THEY ARE ALSO THE RESEARCH WORK ON DIFFERENT SUBJECTS LIKE MODERN DOCTORATE.further research is required,if you have any information please share.welcome.
Now its time to ignore religions and stop taking sides on ideologies like capatilism, communism and all such ideocracies.
Let humans recognise fellow HUMANS FIRST. Let us save the environment where we live first. Then we sure will be the best of civilisations to ever exist... It will also take care of terrosim.
Who told hindu or Indians are not violent. How can we forget all those Kalingas we fought. Dosent our kings fight violent wars between each other? Dosent our kings did violence when we attached other countries in South East Asia up to Indonesia.
Violence was a part of life at that time, poeple were used to it, people were less civilised at that time.
And no doubt christianity and buddism played an important role in world to make peace.
From where Gandhiji got idea of peace, love and ahimsa. How he showed his other cheek when he was beaten up. He was thought to be a good reader of all religous books including that of hindus and christians. He took value from both.
Its time for change and its getting late. Or world countries will clash without idea why they are on war...
Life is composed of two type of matter,living and non living. If present day science is investigation and research work on non living matter,Hinduism philosophy is investigation and research work on living matter. It is not a coincidence that science talks about atom and Hinduism talks about atam. Have you ever noticed the similarities among structure of an atom,solar system and shivalinga.even the human body%u2019s cell has the same form. These are the symbolic representation of the realities.if science see the world in parts and reaches at atom,Hinduism see%u2019s the reality in total and reaches at parmatam. If science talks about proton,neutron and electron,Hinduism talks about brhma.vishnu and Mahesh. The creation of brahma from the navel of vishu is modern beeta decay process of science.the further research on fundamental particals yields similar results as described in hindu research ony names are different. As science is not only theory,it tries to make layman%u2019s life comfortable by inventing tools,similarly Hinduism also developed tools as idols to make GOD%u2019S power practical.
RE:open debate
by sai on Jul 13, 2007 12:15 PM
i havent understood much of wat u just wrote.. but let me ask you Why should you listen to Mohammad or Jesus , who said they were sent by god and why should anyone live by the book.... and anyways i think paper and books were first made in 1600 A.D ..... ask yourself those questions and you would find that only hinduism accomodates the teachings of god or every person god has sent
There is lot of misunderstanding and false impressions on Hinduism. I request people to learn/know about Hinduism before criticizing it.
Hinduism is not a just religion, it is actually a way of living. Hinduism gives best answers for the all questions about the living, humanity and all other spiritual questions. Hinduism have the best philosophy in the world and have contributed uncountable things to the world from its beginning.
People fail to understand that even their neighbors garden will have beautiful flowers.
Hinduism respects all other religions and their spiritual practices. Criticism should be truthful, Perfect and Logic. I see that these criticisms does not have any of these qualities.
I just see an adamant spirituality of their own and blind view over the other religions. They even failed in their own religion and disrespected it.
RE:Plz Learn/Know about HINDUISM before critisising it.
by Kiran Kumar on Jul 13, 2007 12:35 PM
Hi all,
People misunderstand Hinduism as just a religion. But is lot more than a religion. Any doubts or u want to know what hinduism is all about then plz visit this site. http://www.hinduwisdom.info/index.htm
RE:chamelion...
by my message on Jul 13, 2007 11:55 AM
The Hindus were neither with the Russians earlier nor with the US now. Do not confuse between people and Govts.
RE:chamelion...
by proudhindu on Jul 13, 2007 11:50 AM
u pakistanii rascaaalll ull find no place safe from us .we ll bury all of u with the help of mushraff saab
RE:chamelion...
by kk on Jul 13, 2007 11:52 AM
abd-ullh suya kumar , u are a source of gr8 joy and amusement ! Keep it up, now that it is cir-cum-cised!!
