You lot are full of crap. talking about banning US TV etc.
Look at your film industry guys. Its full of violence. Full of alcoholics beating wife's up. Full of under world, fights, guns, rapes. This is what your children have grown/growing up watching. Even a U certificates in Hindi films have sex, booze, rape, fight sense in them.
Threes hardly any difference in watching a U or an 18 rated film when it comes to boolywoold films.!
Forget films. Your headline news in papers are always about corruption, rape, kidnapping, murder etc.....
RE:Prosecute the parents as well as their ladlas
by MGR Fan on Dec 11, 2007 07:11 PM
That is all nice to talk in theory. In reality, the parents will get bail, hire a nice lawyer and case will drag for years.
By that time they will have set up false evidence to deny the crime. Media will forget and the parents and child will walk free and become bigger criminals
We cannot punish even a hardened terrorist like Afzal, you think we can punish someone like these people?
First we adapted Communism that was propagated in Russia, but refused to adopt the work ethic and willingness to do backbreaking work of that country..
Then we adopt the drinking and smoking culture of Western Europe/USA and want to ape them in matters of having premartial sex, but we refuse to adopt their habit of respecting the individual choices, and allowing free enterprise.
We are taking the worst from Western society and retaining the worst of Indian society. That is the tragedy
RE:WE ARE APING THE WRONG THINGS FROM WESTERN WORLD..
by siva krishna on Dec 11, 2007 07:05 PM
excellently told.
culture developes from god centric society. today it became a fashion to critisize if some one is devotional, humble, meek, gentle, truthful. while God is going to reward such persons...fellow humans donot even recognise them as good people. Compared to west, the freedom is still more in india. so india will spoil faster and greater than west.
RE:WE ARE APING THE WRONG THINGS FROM WESTERN WORLD..
by nidhi dawesar on Dec 11, 2007 07:22 PM
`kauwa chala hanns ki chaal apni bhi bhula ? its sad to see that some people think that westren way of living is better. u r born in one society adopting anyother way of living is unnatural.
RE:WE ARE APING THE WRONG THINGS FROM WESTERN WORLD..
by Sateesh Seelam on Dec 11, 2007 07:38 PM
Well told. but i think its not about North INDIA or South INDIA. Its just INDIA and we are all INDIAN's. Frankly speaking, the things we do depends on the respective individual and the environment around him/her(home, office etc..). Perticularly in this case, these guys must have been influenced by the activities done in his home. Am not saying that the family member use revolver all the day, but their behaviour with other's must have influenced the kid. Thats just my openion. just remind again this quote: "THE FIRST SCHOOL WILL BE HOME, WHERE THE KIT STARTS LEARNING EVERYTHING". So mom's and dad's, behave well in home and outside which will help ur kids to grow up properly.
It is very sad that such incidents are happening in schools (of all the places). And mind you it will continue to happen. Will it be a good idea to punish the parents for such juvenile crime committed by their children? And this need to be told to the children. At least then the children might think twice before taking up to weapons and crime. Because if the children are arrested and remanded to judicial homes, they only return as a criminal (barring a few who might transform).
RE:Shoot out
by ram kumar on Dec 11, 2007 07:40 PM
Hi Ramesh. Crime knows no North, East, West or South. It is the same everywhere. A crime is a crime irrespective of the gender. We make the society. We individuals live life the right way, the society then becomes right. If the society stinks it is because of us. Why don't we first start inculcate good things in our children just the way our parents did? Like the saying goes Charity begins at home. Let us (every one of us)first correct ourselves and then the whole society will change for better
RE:Shoot out
by Vivekanand Venkataraman on Dec 11, 2007 09:59 PM
i saw a joke in a daily today... guy saying that i want to get married when my dad and mom are young enough to handle the new born!!
RE:Shoot out
by ram kumar on Dec 11, 2007 07:24 PM
Hi Siva. Agree with you that the TV and the programs aired are actually one of the major reasons for the trend. The programs on crime glorify the criminal rather than laying emphasis on the punishment and the after effects of the punishment.
I think its more of a cultural thing. What do you expect in a society where a child murderer doesnt get convicted ? Or in a city where a woman gets raped in a car and nothing happens to the criminals ? The kids will obviously think nobody can do anything to them. Remember that Delhi is after all the place where all the ministers and politicians live. They have all the power and the police do as they say. How do you expect law and order to prevail in a society like that ? Besides look at their neighbouring countries like Afghanistan,Pakistan and then Bihar,UP. My god,the whole area is a mess.
RE:gurgaon
by ramesh on Dec 11, 2007 06:58 PM
Its usually said that people who get provoked easily have very little in their brains. They are uncultured and unsophisticated,which cant be more true about North Indians. Look at the crime rates in Bihar,UP and Delhi. That will tell you the whole story.
This is not a marketing propaganda but true reality of facts going on India right now.. We need a strong government which could solve all problems counter this islamic terrorism,kashmir problems and more important to stop this westernization of our Hindu culture. Ask any normal indian citizen if they know about bhagwan ram teaching or about ramayana or mahabharata im sure more than 50% doesnt about this facts or they are more inclined towards modernization, copying western cultures going around foreign countries ignoring our culture, traditions. To teach all people a good lesson VHP/RSS should come to power to solve all this problems and save INDIA. Jai Hindutva, JAI RSS ///
RE:RSS/VHP are only saviours of INDIA
by Maximus.Decimus.Meridius on Dec 11, 2007 06:57 PM
Alright. In that case throw out the computer that you are copy-pasting message. Apparently these are the creations of West too. And yah...start typing in Hindi. Don't use English. Oh yeah...you must be wearing trouser too. Get out of it & start wearing lungi or dhoti. That's our culture you see.
And yeah. Be the first to implement your Hindu culture. Start it immediately at your home with your family members to begin with. Then you can preach others
RE:RE:RSS/VHP are only saviours of INDIA
by Gautam Sinha on Dec 11, 2007 07:00 PM
Shut up!! We saw the "values" of RSS. We saw what RSS did to a professor Sabrawal. So much for respecting teachers. We have also seen what paranoia they display regarding the Christian missionaries. So much for religious tolerance. Where did you learn your values?Stop saying Hindu and RSS in the same breath. Stop maligning my religion.
RE:RSS/VHP are only saviours of INDIA
by sumangali pukku on Dec 11, 2007 06:55 PM
we are the real hindus.. who worship our gods..rest of all diluted people and u dont want to know the facts u dont care about our tradition culture..thats y i strongly recommend RSS should be in power to teach all those who are ignorant to hindutva and we are sure one day or other we will prevail and teach all idiots a good lesson...jai hindutva
RE:RE:RSS/VHP are only saviours of INDIA
by Gautam Sinha on Dec 11, 2007 07:02 PM
WHere did you learn how to teach others a lesson? From the invaders you hate presumably!! Go home and read the authentic books for a change
RE:NOW IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS IF PUNISHMENT IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS..
by Gautam Sinha on Dec 11, 2007 06:54 PM
Very much. Today we can see how the USA education system has created a set of consumeristic and greedy generation. Apart from the only outstanding among them, they can't even do anything properly. They want the Indian education system to go that way. US education system is good for future scientists and higher education people but not for everyday folks
RE:NOW IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS IF PUNISHMENT IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS..
by sam Bandopadhyay on Dec 11, 2007 06:46 PM
I thought these were common to the United States and the western culture only. Just see how fast we are apeing the west and that too in all the wrong things.
RE:NOW IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS IF PUNISHMENT IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 11, 2007 06:49 PM
In western countries teachers are not allowed to punish students.
Students can leave the class and enter class at will and no discipline is expected.
Now India will also become like this in next 10-15 years . Our NGOs are working hard to pass a law to ban punishment in Schools.
RE:RE:NOW IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS IF PUNISHMENT IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS..
by Gautam Sinha on Dec 11, 2007 06:56 PM
It is already the culture in many schools. What 10-15 years are you talking about?
RE:NOW IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS IF PUNISHMENT IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 11, 2007 07:07 PM
It is still not the culture in schools outside big cities.
But in coming years, entire India may become like that. A generation of brats and drunkards will emerge and we cant handle them.
RE:NOW IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS IF PUNISHMENT IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS..
by siva krishna on Dec 11, 2007 07:22 PM
thats good. if that is the case, then all indian children will stay back at homes playing. any way this modern education is not teaching any character. the final gift of the modern education is only unemployment. if the child does not get educated, then he will learn to do any work of his choice (POTTERY, CARPENTRY, ETC). should we think all the professional are people of great character? No. i have observed that only an uneducated person is better off in character than a school educated fellow.
