Why do you call a class 8 student a child or a kid? Its wrong, in todays date, the generaton is growing very fast, and hence, in olden days what people were knowing at the age of 26 is now something that a 16 year old knows....
RE:Punish their parents
by Thomas DMello on Dec 11, 2007 08:54 PM
It is the parents who MUST be given life sentence. How can they let loose a loaded arm for a child to lay his hands on?
RE:Punish their parents
by AMUL SHAH on Dec 11, 2007 08:33 PM
You are right. If Indian government don't become strict on this kind of issues we will have same gun problems in India what US is facing for a while.
Never. The rich parents of these two boys will influence the system and change the course of law. Not a cynical statement, but a reminder of the harsh reality
RE:Will the law take its course here?
by Ravikumar Parthasrathy on Dec 11, 2007 09:17 PM
Sure, check the cases of BMW, Lal and a host of others... have you ever heard of the gulity being punished.... money plays ....more in delhi
RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by Rajendra Tapadia on Dec 11, 2007 08:35 PM
Hope God gives strength to the parents of Abhishek. It must be real tough on them to go through all this. May Abhishek's soul rest in peace and god punish the killers, so that no one will try to act in this heinous way.
RE:RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by Anshu S on Dec 11, 2007 10:12 PM
I agree, but with a minor correction. May the "LAW" punish the killers and not god. God's ways of punishment are well, a bit strange at times :-)
RE:RE:RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by rajesh sankaran on Dec 11, 2007 10:18 PM
Sure, LAW is by us and for us - What we as the people of India decide is morally right and wrong, and we have already decided. Taking a life, no matter what reason other than personal safety is unacceptable. But now we have to emphasize and practice it. Dharma will prevail, no matter what.
RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by arindam majumdar on Dec 11, 2007 09:14 PM
would u say the same if the deceased was your child or in that case a close relative of yours???
RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by rajesh sankaran on Dec 11, 2007 09:33 PM
Good Question. World over there is a custom that when there is a death in a house, people visit the family and pay their condolences, tell them encouraging words to get them out of the sorrow. This not done coz the loss of the person is immaterial, but one has to carry on with his life, and we as outsiders to teh family do it, as we are not directly affected by it and have better clarity of mind that given situation. The greatest strength of all god has given us is the power of forgetting, bearing which we would never get over even the smallest sorrow in our minds. Now we can do two things, write inflammatory messages and make the death of the child sound silly, or understand and find ways to tell people to look beyond all these. Normally, in very religious Hindu families ( I am not very much aware of how and what happens in others, pardon my ignorance ), they hold a recital/explanation of the Gheeta or Ramayana etc... in order to get mental strength from the wisdom of these texts. What we are to do as good citizens is to find ways as to how this can be avoided, that is very easy,being what we want others to be. Pointing fingers will only aggravate the situation, but never provide solution.
Now to the part of what I would have done if it were my child? yes, I would be devastated, teary, my life would seem merely senseless without him/her,I might end up with bad and disastrous thoughts, thats when I need advice from others, that cosmic philosophical assurance.
RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by girish s on Dec 11, 2007 08:42 PM
Punish them, for they know not what they have done and dont repeat it when they grow up.
RE:May his soul rest in peace.
by rajesh sankaran on Dec 11, 2007 09:04 PM
Peace : What has happened, has happened. For good and bad. It is a lesson for all of us who are not directly involved with it, a harbinger of the future, ofcourse we have every power to change it and bad for the families involved. Lets pray that his soul rest in peace and lets be peaceful as citizens of the world and not start a blame game.
Tolerance: Let us be tolerant, and understand that everyone of us is different, and killing or hurting them does not make the world a better place to live. Above all as many other people have already said, let us be that example our sons and daughters will be proud of and will be eager to ape.
The law will take its own course, above all there is this conscience of a person. One can escape from any law, but never from one's own felt guilt.
Truth be told, peace wins more than power in the long run.
This is the culture which we want to follow, dont blame anyone, blame the parents of the kid who bought the pistol to school. It is his parent who gave the access to the kid to arms. This is parent who is responsible who wants his Child to follow the culture of west.
We bought Mcdonalds, Pepsi & Coca Cola to our country & we tried to follow their culture also.
This used to happen in America now if we will not stop it, then our children will follow this also.
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by sumangali pukku on Dec 11, 2007 08:18 PM
This is not a marketing propaganda but true reality of facts going on India right now.. We need a strong government which could solve all problems counter this islamic terrorism,kashmir problems and more important to stop this westernization of our Hindu culture. Ask any normal indian citizen if they know about bhagwan ram teaching or about ramayana or mahabharata im sure more than 50% doesnt about this facts or they are more inclined towards modernization, copying western cultures going around foreign countries ignoring our culture, traditions. To teach all people a good lesson VHP/RSS should come to power to solve all this problems and save INDIA. Jai Hindutva, JAI RSS ///
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by aanand on Dec 11, 2007 08:53 PM
AS you write about . Ask any normal indian citizen if they know about bhagwan ram teaching or about ramayana or mahabharata im sure more than 50% doesnt about this facts... TELL ME ABOUT YOUR SELF HOW MANY TIMES YOU READ RAMAYANA AND BHAGWAT GITA ...... I WILL TELL THE FACT ABOUT YOU SUMANGALI.. I AM SURE ABOUT IT UP TO NOW YOU DIDN' SEEN THESE HOLI BOOKS. THERE IS NO MAHABHARAT BOOK... MAHABHARAT IN BHAGWAT GITA... FIRST YOU HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT HINDUISM... ALWAY'S NOT TO SAY RSS / VHP THESE ARE USELESS FIRST YOU READ HOLY BOOKS THEN...... BE HUMAN AND NO1 HUMEN IN THE WORLD... THANKS AANANNDH
RE:RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Rajesh Sachdev on Dec 11, 2007 08:59 PM
I like your approach. you are the real Hindu who believes in Secularism. All Hindus are Secular.
But you know Secularism is the strenght of Hindus and as manaagement says your strength will become your weekness and this is what is happening with Hindus and Indians.
RSS is fighting for the Hindus against the cultrual attacks and whether you win or loose the fight, you will loose something.
RE:RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Seeker Of Truth on Dec 11, 2007 09:23 PM
My friend the world is changing. Your suggestion is like asking to return to the days of typewriter instead of coping with the challenges of speed-tripling microchips that enhance computing capabilities every few months. The VHP/RSS are relics of a bygone era. Wake up Rip Van Winkle, you're sleeping with your eyes wide open. No matter what the VHP/RSS does or tries to do, they cannot undo the inevitable progress of mankind. Look around India; all religion based countries are a failure -- Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, even Iraq all Islamic countries; Nepal a failed Hindu state; Sri Lanka a near failed buddhist state, Myanmar another failed state. India has moved ahead only because of its democratic, secular, multicultural identity. Let the betterment of human race be our goal; Lead India Lead!
RE:RE:Still Time To Save Children
by prashanth gudibande on Dec 11, 2007 08:59 PM
dear anand, understand one thing. you people doesnt follow what you are telling. and you dont allow others to do also. when rss/vhp people are motivated to fight against cultural abuse, let them do it in their own way. why are you interupting their way??? if you are not doing it, no problem, somebody will do it.
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by siddhartha on Dec 11, 2007 09:03 PM
so treu anand, people who probably havent read the books themselves like hypocritical asses will come out and start doing their propaganda.
RE:RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Rajesh Sachdev on Dec 11, 2007 08:45 PM
I do agree with Saurabh that we should not relate this issue with VHP/RSS. But one thing I know that it is all related to cultural attack and i feel no one other than RSS fights against the Cultrual Attacks.
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by shaji george on Dec 11, 2007 08:42 PM
You are really stupid to spread this. Like you people should throw out from our country. Crime is crime and it's there everywhere. Which government can solve this problem??? Idiot
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by AJITH BHATT on Dec 11, 2007 08:51 PM
Who should be thrown out is it patriotic RSS/BJP or the Jihadis who preach separation,or the Commies who lick the boots of the Chinese,or the Super PM who is an Italian,please tell me Mr.Shaji so that I can improve my knowledge
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Greeneyed Guru on Dec 11, 2007 08:45 PM
Modi did not counter godhra train burning with peace or Gandhi's non voilence ! He countered it with voilence western and islamic style. RSS/VHP supported it ! So if they come to power things will be no different.
RE:RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Rajesh Sachdev on Dec 11, 2007 08:47 PM
There are different ways to handle the situation. Afterall Lohe ko Loha hi katta hai...
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by prashanth p gudibande on Dec 11, 2007 08:55 PM
yes you are absolutely right. gandhigiri nahi chalega. they have to be taught in the same way what they are practising.
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Seeker Of Truth on Dec 11, 2007 09:22 PM
My friend the world is changing. Your suggestion is like asking to return to the days of typewriter instead of coping with the challenges of speed-tripling microchips that enhance computing capabilities every few months. The VHP/RSS are relics of a bygone era. Wake up Rip Van Winkle, you're sleeping with your eyes wide open. No matter what the VHP/RSS does or tries to do, they cannot undo the inevitable progress of mankind. Look around India; all religion based countries are a failure -- Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, even Iraq all Islamic countries; Nepal a failed Hindu state; Sri Lanka a near failed buddhist state, Myanmar another failed state. India has moved ahead only because of its democratic, secular, multicultural identity. Let the betterment of human race be our goal; Lead India Lead!
RE:Still Time To Save Children
by Desi on Dec 11, 2007 09:11 PM
Don't blame American Fast Food Products for such a cruel act! By eating at Mcdonalds and then gulping down Pepsi & Coca Cola they decided to shoot the poor kid???
Will your own kids go and shoot at someone? These are disturbed kids and their parents are solely responsible.
RE:MMS will lose his sleep
by sumangali pukku on Dec 11, 2007 08:20 PM
This is not a marketing propaganda but true reality of facts going on India right now.. We need a strong government which could solve all problems counter this islamic terrorism,kashmir problems and more important to stop this westernization of our Hindu culture. Ask any normal indian citizen if they know about bhagwan ram teaching or about ramayana or mahabharata im sure more than 50% doesnt about this facts or they are more inclined towards modernization, copying western cultures going around foreign countries ignoring our culture, traditions. To teach all people a good lesson VHP/RSS should come to power to solve all this problems and save INDIA. Jai Hindutva, JAI RSS ///
RE:shootout
by Mr H on Dec 11, 2007 08:01 PM
whenever something good happens in gurgaon then ppl from delhi claim it. when things like this happen, you say its not a part of delhi. make up your mind first
RE:shootout
by amdabessst on Dec 11, 2007 08:57 PM
Man!!! I thought there was only Hindu-Christian, North-South, Congress-BJP division in thsi country. Good, new fact surfaced. So ther is Delhi-Gurgaon division too. Keep it up my friends, let the ball role.
