RE:India must not support terrorists like Hindraf, LTTE
by true tamilan on Dec 10, 2007 02:09 AM
What terrorism did hindraf did? Peaceful protest against the malaysian govt is terrorism? . Oh yeah, according to u, they shud have blown up some mosques, markets and public transportation killing civilians. That wud be true religious war is'nt it?
RE:India must not support terrorists like Hindraf, LTTE
by Satakarni on Dec 10, 2007 02:04 AM
You have the name of the biggest terrorist India ever had.
RE:Selective Indians
by Les Miserables on Dec 10, 2007 02:01 AM
Indian goverment will never raise any voice against this ethnics cleansing..Can somebody guesss the reason?..Yes, it will alienated Indian Muslims!!!!
RE:Selective Indians
by Jitesh Kumar Agrawal on Dec 10, 2007 01:17 AM
They were always reffered as people of Indian origin and not Indians and they never expected anything from this country in return.
Tamils in India have never been Indians so how can tamils anywhere else be Indians??/
RE:Selective Indians
by MKT on Dec 10, 2007 01:36 AM
Ramesh,
Don't get angry. This Prabhu and Jitesh (both from the same lot) are the actual Judjes who can decide whether any people in our coutry are actaully an Indian or Not !!!
See their (specifcally Prabhu ji's) expression below.
Ramesh - I am sure they cannot stand (or win) if you start giving befitting and rational replies to them. But still they cannot get their skewed views changed.
They do not understand that Tamils are proud Indians than many others (and also the likes of Prabhu and Jitesh).
RE:Selective Indians
by G PRABHU on Dec 10, 2007 01:15 AM
DOES bobby jindal accept his ethnicity? read shashi tharoors ARTICLE....Then the bare facts will be known.Not many especially Tamils acknowledge the Indian Union because of their complexes
RE:To all Chapathis
by ramesh on Dec 10, 2007 01:29 AM
One more thing, Nobody is requesting North Indians to help. It's the central government which represents all Indians,not just your Bihar and UP. Tamils have as much a right to demand something as Biharis or UP wallas do. Why are some Bihari idiots here asking why they should help us ? We dont need your shitty help,Karunanidhi was asking the support of the centre of which people from all over India are part of.
RE:To all Chapathis
by Jitesh Kumar Agrawal on Dec 10, 2007 12:52 AM
why not.....its just becasue of tamils that all are suffering.....when your grandpa karunanidhi says Ram is imaginary and which engineering college did he studied you clap and when tamils are screwed in malaysia you seek help on the basis of being hindus.....the fact is since there is no benefit by way of minority appeasement and vote bank this upa govt will not act....remember pm loosing sleep over that doctor haneef
RE:RE:To all Chapathis
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 01:02 AM
Mr.Jitesh not all the Tamils are followers of Karunanidhi, 80% of the Tamil population believes in Shri.Ram and Hinduism, don't target whole community for a single old dog's(Karuna) deed. It%u2019s our Hindus mistake, we all divided on the basis of caste, language , region etc. we must overcome this barrier and protect our self or we all will face the similar fate of Kashmiri Hindus and Sikhs...
RE:To all Chapathis
by Jitesh Kumar Agrawal on Dec 10, 2007 01:09 AM
Friend but dont understand how that man karunanidhi got elected as cm with 20% support or why not even 8% of the 80% Ram following tamils dont protest for his remarks.....you are making things worse for yourself and should not blame others for having wrong notions about the whole in that case.
RE:To all Chapathis
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 01:24 AM
Dear Jitesh my answer is why the Communist is ruling west Bengal for so many years being a party which is deadly against HINDUISM, then you mean all Bengalis are not Hindus or against Hinduism,and till now BJP is a small party in WB, But in Tamilnadu already BJP have wone 5 MP seats twice in previous elections. As per your theory we in Tamilnadu don%u2019t believe in Hinduism but rest of our country believe in, then you should have protested in such a manner that the central government must have dismissed Karunanidhi government. You can take the Example of muslims how the protested for the Danish cartoon issue and Tashlima case%u2026., pls don%u2019t misunderstand me my point is we are Hindus are divided now, we must over come this barrier and form as a single community %u201CHINDU COMMUNITY%u201D.
RE:To all Chapathis
by ramesh on Dec 10, 2007 01:18 AM
Even Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee said the same thing about Ram and the Bengalis didnt worry too much about it because its the opinion of a politician,who is trying to get some votes. Why didnt you blame the whole Bengali community as you are talking against the Tamils are you are doing now ? Why dont you admit you have an inferiority complex or you are suffering from jealousy and hatred and taking it out this way on the Tamils ? One more thing,South Indians have the lowest Muslim population in the country and the farthest away from China and Pakistan. Dont come looking for shelter when your ass is on fire.
RE:To all Chapathis
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 12:56 AM
Dear Ramesh don't blame North Indians for our mistake, we must correct our mistake, we let our Idiotic politicians let lose what ever they want to speak, eg Karunanithi who barks all wrong things about Hinduism to appease the minority vote bank. If we Hindus in Tamilnadu correct this politician then none of the north Indians will complain against us.
RE:To all Chapathis
by rising star on Dec 10, 2007 01:15 AM
Well said Tamil Arasan. In a way, this Malaysian Indian problem is an eye opener for Tamils who questioned where Ram did engineering from without asking where Jesus or Muhammed did his masters.
Having stayed in Chennai, I know that Tamils like to speak from a high pedestal in intellectual tones to north indians. But only until they get screwed up as in Malaysia or SriLanka. When it happens, they discover that they are Hindus too and run up to central govt in north.
RE:RE:To all Chapathis
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 01:33 AM
Rising Star still you are ignorant, I am talking about Hindu Unity not north strong or south strong, if you say we need the central govt support in north ie its "bulshit Central Government" which cannot protect our fellow Hindus and Sikh brothers in Kashmir, we Tamil are the Morden day warrior Hindus, you can be proud of us since we are showing the world we Hindus are not cowards, Example our Hindu LTTE brothers in Srilanka.
RE:To all Chapathis
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 10, 2007 01:51 AM
Hey Mysore Bajji and Pav Baaji...Mind your language.Fermented food is healthier than you mentioned food.
RE:To all Chapathis
by rising star on Dec 10, 2007 01:16 AM
Well said Tamil Arasan. In a way, this Malaysian Indian problem is an eye opener for Tamils who questioned where Ram did engineering from without asking where Jesus or Muhammed did his masters.
Having stayed in Chennai, I know that Tamils like to speak from a high pedestal in intellectual tones to north indians. But only until they get screwed up as in Malaysia or SriLanka. When it happens, they discover that they are Hindus too and run up to central govt in north.
I do agree that we must respond to Malaysia problem as a nation without north/south thing (which is internal to us)
RE:To all Chapathis
by MKT on Dec 10, 2007 01:55 AM
Rising Star, We all are indians first and there is no room for other sentiments during the hour of need.
Re your point of Tamils speaking in high pedestal - You have conveniently tried to hide that that Tamils wouldn't have spoken like that until they feel that he/she is bullied/dominated when you conversed with them. Can you accept this or not ?
RE:RE:To all Chapathis
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 02:20 AM
Mr.MKT you are 100% correct, But one thing is there for Hindus down fall eg if some one provokes your region you will unite on the basis of it, at the same time some one provokes your caste you will dump your region and go behind your caste, it is there all over Hindu community, we must over come this barrier and form a strong Hindu community... not based on language, region, caste etc....
RE:RE:To all Chapathis
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 01:31 AM
Rising Star still you are ignorant, I am talking about Hindu Unity not north strong or south strong, if you say we need the central govt support in north ie its "bulshit Central Government%u201D which cannot protect our fellow Hindus and Sikh brothers in Kashmir, we Tamil are the Morden day warrior Hindus, you can be proud of us since we are showing the world we Hindus are not cowards, Example our Hindu LTTE brothers in Srilanka.
RE:It is a Christianist UPA Disgrace - Only National Leader to Meet Hindraf was Advaniji
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 01:47 AM
You are 100% true Mr.Singha, Sonia is in a Mission to convert India in to a christain state.Sonia will bring Christians in to prominence where ever she gets opportunity Example : Samel Rajasheaker Ready (Andra CM), Ajith Jogi (Former Chhattisgarh CM), AK. Antony (Defense Minister), Sheila Dikshit (Delhi CM) etc...
RE:RE:It is a Christianist UPA Disgrace - Only National Leader to Meet Hindraf was Advaniji
by ninteacha on Dec 10, 2007 04:16 AM
Don't be stupid. No matter if one is christian, muslim, or hindu everybody who lives here wants this country to succeed. Don't try to inject poison into people's minds.
RE:It is a Christianist UPA Disgrace - Only National Leader to Meet Hindraf was Advaniji
by DM on Dec 10, 2007 03:42 AM
Don't doubt the patroitism of Christians or any other minority group and nobody gives you the right to do that. Just like you, christians and all the other minority groups are the citizens of this country.
With repect to the Malaysian problem, I as an Indian christian is pained by this and pained at this because of the harships they had to face. This has nothing to do with religion, it is simply because of their Indian ethinicty.
Finally, I have one question for you, when is that people like you will stop questioning the patriotism of people from other backgrounds? It is because of people like you that India has not developed for so long. Stop questioning people from other background and think like an Indian.
This is another proof that whichever part of the world you seem to be settled and earning so well and happy - its all temporary. You can be kicked out anytime and you will end up back in India with nothing.
RE:East or West - Home is best
by recalcitrant on Dec 10, 2007 01:22 AM
Dude Singha - don't generalize. Do you know about recent HSMP chaos. Its all supply demand equation. If your services are not required in a foreign country, you will be KICKED out. Why do you think UK prefers people from EU countries?
these are tamilian bvastaaaards creating problem there,... tamils are always problem created wether in India or else were, let the kanuva karunanidhiu solve it with indian govt. mony...
i still domt unjdertand wht tamil govtg. is helping the LTTE .... all because all tamils are anti national... they are ravans
RE:please dont help
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 10, 2007 01:07 AM
This Bastxxd "Munyandi" is a Tamil, Christian convert, he is provoking Tamil sentiments so that we write wrong thins against our North Indian Hindu brothers vice versa, pls don't fall in to this fools trap, my beloved Hindus unite and save your self from the Christians and Muslims.
RE:please dont help
by MKT on Dec 10, 2007 02:01 AM
Hey Singha and Tamil Arasan - Just I am trying to make this Munyaandi walk into the trap so he can be given the required replies.
Unity among Diversity is our strength. Don't worry. I am aware that some mischief creators are there in this forum.
RE:please dont help
by Secular Indian on Dec 10, 2007 04:34 AM
Check out the facts do a simple search on the internet using the following words "ambedkar buddhism Devadasis Were Degraded Buddhist Nuns"
you will see the reality of hindus how women are offered for sex and your gods like ram are born
Oh, by the way i read on this forum, a tamilian has revered ravana as a great tamil?
Is this some kind of a north indian aryaan anti campagain by the south indian dravadians?
Hindus in Malaysia should garner support and sympathy from all ethnic groups in Malaysia and present to the world another instance of Islamofascism. Malaysia, despite its impressive progress is steeped in Islamic ideals of treating non Muslims as dhimmis, discriminatory Bumputra laws, destruction of temples etc. The case should be presented as an extension of Jihad, the concept of Islam's supremacy over all religions. India is not going to be much help. India cant take care of its own Pundits, leave alone Malaysian Hindus.
RE:RE:Seek Global Help
by deepak on Dec 10, 2007 12:54 AM
actually a dossier can be presented. Just Bumiputra laws itself is an embodiment of unfairness that cannot be allowed in this modern world in a country that claims itself to be moderate Islamic. Malaysia is only slightly Muslim majority at 60%, it has no right to selfishly term this country as Islamic. The concept of religious countries based on sharia needs to be addressed.
RE:Seek Global Help
by hyderabadi on Dec 10, 2007 01:04 AM
Still talking BS. Present proof for your claims. Post some links here about the barbarism of Malaysian Govt.
RE:Seek Global Help
by deepak on Dec 10, 2007 01:06 AM
find it urself..not ur servant...Islamofascism must go period. Islamic fascism earlier killed 3 million Hindus in EPakistan.
RE:Seek Global Help
by hyderabadi on Dec 10, 2007 01:14 AM
got any proof of that. will u believe me if i said india killed 10 million muslims. all u want to do is talk bs. bin laden, modi and u belong to the same race
RE:Seek Global Help
by deepak on Dec 10, 2007 07:04 AM
You want proof of Pak army killing 3 million Bengalis mostly Hindus?? go check out Hamidur Rehman report and read up the express clause where Yahya Khan in order to save Islam ordered ethnic cleansing of Hindus in E Pakistan...do some reading up on dozens of journals, you can even check out issues of National Geographic thru Newsweek of that period..save yourself the trouble, just look around and see what Islamism is doing from England to Ernakulum. Enough said.
RE:Manmohan Singh
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 10, 2007 01:02 AM
Haneef is an Indian citizen. Like it or not - we have nothing to do with Malaysian Tamils. They are upset because some temples built illegally are getting demolished. No government tolerated external interference in affairs of its citizens. India does not. The Chinese have been very careful in dealing with this issue because when they interefered last time in the 1960s on behalf of Malaysian chinese - there was violent retaliation against them.
RE:Manmohan Singh
by deepak on Dec 10, 2007 12:24 AM
Karunanidhi is a jerk. Tamils in Malaysia are Hindus, and the infringement on their rights is because they are Hindus or non Muslims. If Hindu temples are desecrated, then Malaysian Hindus are being made dhimmis according to Islamic dictates. The world should be made aware of another instance of Islamofascism.
RE:Manmohan Singh
by common sense on Dec 10, 2007 12:07 AM
friend, please understand - these tamilians in malaysia have NOTHING to do with India or with Tamil Nadu. They are Malaysian citizens, malaysian passport holders, immigrated to that country from Sri Lanka / India HUNDREDS OF YEARS BACK.
RE:Manmohan Singh
by subag on Dec 10, 2007 12:28 AM
why don't you make this understand to people who burn and riot when something happens in Iraq and pakistan.
RE:RE:Manmohan Singh
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 10, 2007 01:03 AM
two wrongs don't make it right. I am sure we are better than those Jehadis. Maybe I am but you are not.
RE:Manmohan Singh
by Suv on Dec 10, 2007 12:44 AM
Hi Very good Mr Prabhu, You are correct, who are outside they are just want them to recognize by TAMIL not indians, also as they are not beliving RAM THEN WHY RHEY WANT SUPPORT FROM THE HINDU, IN KARNATAKA, FIRST DUE TO POLITICAL THEY PROPTECT HINDI LENGUAGE EVEN HINDI WAS THE NATIONAL LENG. AND NOW THEY ARE OPPOSING lORD RAM , IF YOU STILL WANTS SUPORT FROM THE HINDU AND YOU ARE TUR THEN LEARN HINDI AND THEN REMOVE PLITICAL INFLUENCE,
Referring to the boycott of Malaysian Airlines and Products, we should also ask GMR International Airport which is building a new international airport at Hyderabad to kick out its Malaysian partner in the project.This will send out the right message to the Islamists in Malaysia that they cannot persecute Hindus. Next stop all Palm Oil exports from Malaysia. If India imposes an economic blockade of Malaysia, then the government there will come down its knees and deal with the Indian community in a better way.
RE:A malaysian compnay is a partner in the New Hyderabad International Airport
by common sense on Dec 10, 2007 12:00 AM
my table spoon has more brain than what you have. what an idea to bring malaysian government to it's knees
RE:RE:A malaysian compnay is a partner in the New Hyderabad International Airport
by deepak on Dec 10, 2007 12:58 AM
Indian govt should keep out. The Indian govt will mess it up fruther for Hindus. India had turned a blind eye when Hindus in Pakistan & Bangladesh are kicked out, how can you expect Catholic Sonia & pseudo Manmohan who 'cant sleep for Haneef' do anythign for Hindus?
RE:A malaysian compnay is a partner in the New Hyderabad International Airport
by recalcitrant on Dec 10, 2007 01:30 AM
Deepak - you are doing what a weak incapable person always does. complain!!! What has Haneef to do with this issue? Australian Govt. couldn't find anything thing against him. Do you think he was released to put our prime minister to sleep?
If you have guts, pool in like minded people, organize a rally/ do something other than just barking.
The base facts remain that TAMILS once out Of India never acknowledge that they are Indians.For example i have seen when two or three tamils meet in a foreign country they speak in their language forgetting that there are 10 other guys of different linguistic back ground.TAMIL ELLAM is what they crave for may be because of their insecurity and knowning the fact that they have inferiority complexes on their colour and behaviour. I have experienced it myself in Tamil Nadu. HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN SPEAK THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE-HINDI? THEY HAVE AN ATTITUDE AGAINST THE REST 70% ARYAN RACE IN INDIA.No point justifying the cause of the Tamils in other countries where they themselves are the cause of their oum misery,
Can we tolerate minorities doing the same as in Malaysia? Law of the Land has to be followed!!
I come from Karnataka and i have seen the way they behave and create confusions.I have learnt tamil myself and at the same time have read their culture which is the most conservative and racist culture of all....and yet they ask for self determination!!!
RE:Malaysian government is right
by MKT on Dec 10, 2007 01:18 AM
Prabhu - It should be appreciated that you have learnt another language and culture (which you hate).
To answer your allegations,
1) Tamils are proud indians like any other Indian (may be - like you) - Do not confuse for their LOVE towards their language with their Patriotism !!
2) What is wrong when 2 Tamils converse in Tamil between them - To put more clearly when Anti Tamil riots broke out in Karnataka, Kannadiga goons forced everyone (including Tamil and others) to slogan 'Kannada ki Jai' or sort of words - You will add this is in which case ? (REMEMBER THERE WERE NO VIOLENCE AGAINST ANY NON-TAMILS IN TAMIL NADU). We Tamils never asked/forced any of them to speak in Tamil.
3) Did any Tamil came and told that they feel insecure for their colour and behaviour (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) ? Their affection / praise feeling for their Tamil language and culture is making you to see anyting associated with them in terms of inferiority complex ! Ofcourse Tamils even treat their enemies with due respect that is why they provide electricity toKarnataka inspite of some fanatics oppose the water for TN in Cauvery from that state.
4) Re Hindi - Its already debated - Do not force the language. You will not understand that feeling till you love your mother toungue.
5) Who told rest 70% race in india is Aryan ?! (Infact the entire south India is inhabited by a little different race than our brothers in northern parts of our country). To be more clear - Have you read the so
RE:Malaysian government is right
by MKT on Dec 10, 2007 01:28 AM
.....6) You have mentioned Tamils as problem creators as everywhere in the world. Do you know the history of Tamils in SriLanka, Malaysia or other countries. I am sure you DO NOT know them. Please brush your knowledge.
7) The Rule of the Law should be respected - did Cauvery Tribunals / Supreme Courts verdicts were respected immediately in Karnataka ? Tamils respect the law, more than any other people.
TO ADD, I HAVE MANY KANNADIGA FRIENDS WHO ARE REAL GEMS. They are very nice people and never speak to us with a anti-feeling like the one you have mentioned above.
Re this I should mention another thing, I have a colleague friend who openly tells in office that he doesn't like Tamils and they should be sent out of Karnataka. How come anyone can speak like this in a workplace ? Also privately he also added Telugus, Bengalis and others too in his hate list. It is really hurting when you see a colleague speaks like this in a multicultural/multi ethnic work environment. Shall I take these one person's mistake as a representation of inferior culture / bad thing on whole of my Kannada compatriots ?
Please see Siddaraju's way of decent expression. Yours should be in such a way that it don't offend others.
RE:Malaysian government is right
by Kaushik Kashyap on Dec 09, 2007 11:59 PM
Could not agree any less. I have met enough Tamils in Malaysia and Singapore who openly make fun of everything that India stands for. Even cabbies say India is a bogus country. Why the hell should we take these idiots back?
RE:Malaysian government is right
by siddaraju on Dec 10, 2007 12:54 AM
Hi prabhu, I too am from karnataka. Most of the fact u described about tamils are true..but not all of them are bad. I sincerely think that Tamils are the real indians (with the presumption that india is a diverse country and one need to preserve it). In a larger context they are right in speaking tamils wherever they can and not learning hindi officially. U may know very well that how Kannada literature, art, theatre and music fluorished and 70s, 80s, and early 90s. where they are all gone now? We just accepted hindi upon us and u can see the result. there are more hindi movie goers than kannada (and don't say they are of better quality.... i think they are nothing buy glamorous..). we kannadigas aren't good indians because we shamelessly forego our rich cultural heritage while tamils preserved theirs. Hindi is just a launguage of some region in india not language of indians or hindhus. And being true indian u should believe its idiologies of democracy and secular law (though we shamelessly allow shariya for muslims) and not in shariya law of malaysia. It is a no sense law wherever it is their. I am not concerned about malaysian citizens but about indian citizens, and their cultural diversities and a maturity to preserve them, and respect them. u have to live in north india to know real picture. By the way i just google malaysia. It's population is 2.5 crores while it is 5 crores in karnataka and 6 crore in tamil nadu. they got independence in 1957 and their GDP is
RE:Malaysian government is right
by recalcitrant on Dec 10, 2007 01:36 AM
Siddaraju - I agree with you to large extent. I was watching a program in Channel-4 (UK) recently about South Indian dynasties and Cholas were prominently highlighted. Its amazing to see such a rich culture in ancient India while now-developed west was still in dark. We have every reason to preserve this culture. At the same time, learning Hindi wouldn't put your culture at risk but creates a unified platform for entire nation and facilitates national integration.
By the way, what do you know about Sharia Law? I guess it will be very premmature to comment on it on the basis of what you percieve/hear. Please know it before you speak.
RE:Malaysian government is right
by deepak on Dec 10, 2007 07:00 AM
You need to know abt Sharia law?? well let me give u an intro...Its primitive Arab laws divinely 'sanctioned' by Allah. It chops off hands and heads...stones women to death, allows men to beat up their wives..keeps non Muslims in servititude as dhimmis. Well its fascism- and worse it claims its divine Fascism. wow !
RE:Malaysian government is right
by siddaraju on Dec 10, 2007 05:21 AM
Dear recalcitrant, thank u for ur appreciation and suggesions. I accept that i don't know much about the sharia law. But again, If it is true that it accepts polygamy, it is a bad law however good it may be in other aspects. By the way i always believe that there should be atheistic (u can say secular) law in a nation which is common to all. I am a kannadiga and like any other educated kannadiga, i can speak real good hindi. But learning any language should be voluntary should not be imposed. I again don't believe that u need hindi for national integration. An Hindiwala should learn/respect other indian languages as much as others do. By the way all ur points make sense but not ur name. Next time I would love to address u by ur name.
