Tamil sentiment very strong and they refuse to merge with majority whether in Mumbai or Sri Lanka or Malaysia. They like to preserve their identity as very intelligent and superior race and always try to alienate themselves from the majority. They are like Muslims who cannot live in peace with majority.
RE:Tamils in Malaysia
by Ram Bhakt on Dec 09, 2007 08:37 PM
Only some Tamils are of high caliber quality. The rest are all of very average quality as you find such below average Tamilians all over Tamil Nadu. In Tamil Nadu, they are flexing their muscles because of 69% reservation without which these Dravidian Tamils will not be able to get any decent job. Since in Malasia there is no such reservation, they are suffering.
RE:Tamils in Malaysia
by Gautam Dasaka on Dec 09, 2007 09:10 PM
There is such a thing called 100% Bumiputra companies in Malaysia. Meaning, only Malays are joining these companies.
Government doles out monies for such companies. In Malaysia, the Tamils are labourers, Chinese are the Business people and Malays are Bumiputras
RE:getting paid in the same way
by Priya Desarathan on Dec 09, 2007 08:46 PM
then why u muslim are staying like a dog in india go gabc to ur people and ur muslim country u never take india as a home country
RE:getting paid in the same way
by theHindu on Dec 10, 2007 08:29 AM
One point U muslim shit. Muslims in India are not Indian. The country was divided on the basis of relegion and so you muslims should all have to your country. Now that you are here behave. Your end is near. You all will be wiped out. You can only slit an innocent unarmed man's throat on camera. You have no guts to fight. If we start kicking you you will have nowhere to go. DONT PUSH US.
RE:getting paid in the same way
by on Dec 09, 2007 08:37 PM
The problem is we have only 1 modi, wish we had 100. what do you expect we will keep quiet when you strap bomb dressed in burkhaa and kill innocent people
RE:RE:getting paid in the same way
by Rohan Thapar on Dec 09, 2007 08:47 PM
Kudos to you. Its people like you who make us to hate all muslim community.
Its not hindus who r responsible for your iltreatment but its u ppl themselves.
Be loyel to your country and ur people or all muslim contries will either be Irak or Afaganistan.
RE:getting paid in the same way
by Rohan Thapar on Dec 09, 2007 08:43 PM
Yes rightly said. We Hindus are here to be iltreated by everyone. In India becos we are in majority, so our secular Congress is scruing us and outsite Muslims.
This is good and I wish this should happen with every Hindu be in India or out cos then only Hindu's will value there religion.
Kudos to all congress supporter Hindus. I wish you see Malesiya in India one day!!!
BJP should form next govt with a simple majority and will and show the malaysian authorities a thing or two on how to treat Hindus. lets not say indians. because the malaysian authorities have clearly shown they are against Hindus and its symbols and want to liquadate them
RE:Hindraf will get the much needed help if BJP comes to power in next LS elections
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 09, 2007 08:59 PM
Are Muslims taking revange what they had in India? Then let them go on... and find the ultimate result as like in Mumbai,Iraq,Afganistan,and elsewhere...
RE:Hindraf will get the much needed help if BJP comes to power in next LS elections
by Priya Desarathan on Dec 09, 2007 08:49 PM
babri masjid was not of muslim it was aplace of lod ram u r intention is to change the whorld world in to islamic country which will never happenu will be finished by then
RE:Hindraf will get the much needed help if BJP comes to power in next LS elections
by dinesh Panagadan on Dec 09, 2007 08:54 PM
What Babri Masjid? No namaz was being held there and in Islam a masjid has no religeous sanctity or holiness.Muslims are simply crying over spilt milk to get internationaL sympathy and empathy from their UPA godfathers who use them as vote banks.
RE:Hindraf will get the much needed help if BJP comes to power in next LS elections
by G PRABHU on Dec 09, 2007 08:28 PM
Sundar, Your views on Hindus is well taken. But provided all Tamils feel proud that they are Hindus and not make statements against Lord sri ram. See the disconnect between Tamils and the rest of the hindus. Dont you think the CM of TN should have been reprimanded?aLSO hIS STATEMENT OF MARGINALISING tAMILS IN Malaysia and rest of ethnic Indians
RE:RE:Hindraf will get the much needed help if BJP comes to power in next LS elections
by Ram Bhakt on Dec 09, 2007 08:46 PM
The socalled Tamils should first from now onwards call themselves Indians instead of Tamils and then stop appealing to the coward and Hindu baiting street dog Karunanidhi and then only the Indians in the rest of India will start taking notice and will definitely help them.
RE:wow!!!
by sharath chandra on Dec 09, 2007 08:36 PM
Today in malaysia GOVT. have arrested many Lawyers for organising a peacefull celebration march for UN HUMAN RIGHTS DAY CELEBRATIONS!!! IF THIS GOVT D`NT WANT TO RESPECT HUMAN RIGHTS....BETTER TO THROW THEM OUT OF UN
RE:wow!!!
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 09, 2007 09:47 PM
Our secular Government is much concerned of Palestin,Iraq,Afghanistan etc. Tamils' problems are trival for it.
RE:These are not Indians
by sharath chandra on Dec 09, 2007 08:30 PM
Mr.ANURAG , WHEN CHILDREN HAVE BEEN DISCARDED BY PARENTS IT IS THIER GRANDPARENTS DUTY TO LOOK INTO THE PROPLEMS OF THEIR CHILDREN. THIS STORY ALMOST RELATES LIKE THAT. ALL THESE ETHNIC INDIANS GRANDPARENTS R FROM INDIA. THESE POOR INDIANS HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO MALAYSIA AS SLAVE BY BRITISH COMPANIES(EAST INDIA COMPANY) THWEY ALMOST BECOME BANKRUPT IN THE END AND MOST OF THESE BRITISH EMPLOYERS HAD RAN AWAY WITH OUT SETTLING PROPER ISSUES TO THESE POOR PPL. THESE PPL HAVE BEEN TREATED AS 2ND RATED CITIZENS JUST BEZ THEY R NOT HINDUS AND POOR. IMP POINT WE INDIANS SHOULD NOTE HERE.....MOST OF THESE PPL WERE PROTESTING PEACEFULLY WITH MAHATMA GANDHI PHOTO....MALAYSIA IS TERMING THESE INNOCENT PPL WITH GANDHI PHOTO AS CROOKS....WHILE ADDRESSING THEM WHY THEY SHOULD ADDRESS THIER CITIZENS AS INDIANS?
RE:These are not Indians
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 09, 2007 10:43 PM
These guys were protesting against temples built illegally on government land. They should realise that this is not India. Malaysia is a land of opportunities and anyone with half a brain gets a job.
Lets try to understand the issue first-up before making our mind about it. then we can decide to write or talk or pass comments. Lets not loosely make statements which will show us in poor light.
RE:We are yet to see Nationalist govt in India
by sundar on Dec 09, 2007 08:16 PM
We have to be worried about anything and everything under the sun that is either indian,closely or remotely connected to India as it exists now, bharat then. Lets not loosely say that they are malaysians and hence not our botheration. We tend to firm up our opinion beore even we understand the issues at hand, the gravity of it, the nuances of it. Come on Indians. Desist from making a false statement.
I would consider somebody who held Indian citizenship for a minimum of ONE day as an Indian. By that standard, how many of them are Indians? Govt. of India, please don't meddle in somebody else's family quarrel.
I live in Singapre and Malaysia for some time. My experience with so called Malaysian Indians was :
1. They never accepted their originalality that there were indians. They calles themselves Malaysian Tamils. Theywere never proud that they were of Indian Origin. Once when an Tamil was asked by me whether he was originally from India .. he said he was a malay Tamil....
2. Most Malaysian Tamils are doing well in business, hotels etc. But how many malay tamils want to come back to India or want to accpet that they of Indian Origin
3. The local Malays are very nice and hospitable and have given enough opportunities to the Tamils.
4. The tamils are repeating the same stunt what they did in Srilanka.
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by siddhartha on Dec 09, 2007 07:59 PM
well they are no longer indians so why should they say as much??
i dont have any idea of how things are there though..some amout of discrimination is always there for some group of sect...thats seemingly just natural.
Its when ur are over whelmingly discriminated against that u need to protest and fight ur battle..
u should fight it as a malay tamil not someone with indian roots(if u look upto india then u are essentially sayying that u are anyways not a 'real' citizen of india)..
The call should be to world community to notice any discrimination and oppression if its there, not india alone.
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by sharath chandra on Dec 09, 2007 08:41 PM
mr.siddarth and Mr.prabhu....if these ppl are malasian citizens why those idiot ministers of malaysia should refer these pl as INDIANS. D`NT YOU PPL THINK IT IS HIHG TIME INDIAN GOVT SHOLUD USE STRONG WORDS TO SAY NOT TO MISUSE OUR COUNTRY NAME? LET THEM TALK TO THOSE PPL AS MALAYSIANS? WHY THESE IDIOT MINISTERS R CALLING THESE PROTESTERS AS CROOK INDIANS INSTEAD OF CROOK MALAYSIANS?
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by JK on Dec 09, 2007 07:59 PM
You have no idea of what you are talking about. Maybe you saw some Malaysian Tamil guy running a hotel or a restaurant and you went there to eat. They are Malaysians first and Tamil next. They are not Indians. They are right. They ask for Indias help based on the comman thread that they happen to be Hindu and not Indian. Get your facts right. How long you been in Malaysia? Moron. Have you visited the Kampongs in Malaysia where the Tamils are mostly concentrated?
RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by G PRABHU on Dec 09, 2007 08:06 PM
Well Tamils during the independence wanted a seperation from India. Their motives were crushed by the great Indian democracy. Its not a question of Hindu or muslim. Its the attitude of TAMILIANS which caused problems in Srilanka and malaysia. There are temples in Malaysia. Diwali is celebrated and TAMILS have representation in the parliament.But why this has happened now after so many years!!! Well TAMILS think they can repeat srilankA. But they are wrong!!!1
Also TAMIL is not HINDU 100% and HINDU is not TAMIL 100%.
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by mahesh kumar on Dec 09, 2007 11:37 PM
Well Prabhu do you know the contribution of tamil people for the independence of india, ask Nethaji Subash Chandra Bose He will tell you idiot, TN pools in 10% of the money for indian defense keep in mind, people in singapore and malaysia sold their property and donated money for the indipendence strugle. He was put in a tharaju and the other end was filled by the indian tamilian ladys' jwellery including mangal suthra weight to weight.
Think before you talk anything against tamils regarding their loyalty.
RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by G PRABHU on Dec 09, 2007 11:43 PM
NAME ONE TAMIL!! IN SINGAPORE OR MALAYSIA WHO WAS ENDORSED BY THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT? THEN TALK ABOUT TARAZU AND GOLD............FOR INDIAS FREEDOM. I CAN NAME 100 BENGALIS, MARATHIS, PUNJABIS, BIHARIS UPites, KASHMIRIS,
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by sundar on Dec 09, 2007 08:21 PM
Tamils never wanted a separation during independence. If you are talking about the dravidian movement, then its just a very short period of going astray by a section of population grossly misled by politicians. People by and large were never for independence though Dravidian movement then was popular and arrogant and aggressive. But now look where they are. So i would say its a burn in the skin and it has taken so long for burnol like ointment to work on and bring semblance of sanity.
RE:RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 09, 2007 08:40 PM
Mr.Prbhu, Are you a real Indian and know the freedom struggle? Have you ever heard of Veera Pandia Katta Bomman,Bharatiyar,and Many who lost lives in Andaman Nicobar jail? First know what are Tamils, then talk.
RE:RE:RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by G PRABHU on Dec 09, 2007 08:45 PM
vEERA PANDIAN KATTABOMMAN was hanged by the British. He didnt fight for India but found for his small fiefdom!!!He didnt fight for the rest of indians but for Tamils and hid fiefdom. NAME ONE TAMIL WHO HAS LOST LIFE IN ANDAMANS. TAMILS SUPPORTED THE BRITISH WHEN TIPU SULTAN FOUGHT BRAVELY AGAINST TEH BRITISH( BRITISH MADRAS REGIMENT)
ROBERT CLIVE AND THE BRITSH STARTED THE ADVENTURES FOM MADRAS!!!
RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Ram Bhakt on Dec 09, 2007 08:58 PM
Mr Prabhu Pl never insult the Tamilians' Desh bhakthi or their contribution to the Freedom struggle. No doubt the Pujabis etc lost more heavily because they were in the North and the South was naturally protected from the British and especially Muslim invasion. But it does not mean you can speak in that tone. Make all your comments on the present day Tamils for their silence on the statements of the street dog Karunanidhi who has been saying in an unchecked manner about Ram. That street dog should be beaten with chappals and stones till it stops barking such nonsense. Only in that area the Tamils are to be blamed.
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 09, 2007 09:11 PM
you are strong headed and can't accept anything. It is time waste to make you understand. I don't know in which you school you studied?
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by A VENKATESAN on Dec 09, 2007 08:29 PM
Mr.G.Prabhu Bloody you are not a indian.shut up your mouth. what you know about indepence struggle in india. how many tamil people lost there life. Bloody fool.
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 09, 2007 09:51 PM
Who is the chief of Netaji's Azad Hind fouz women regiment ? Name her...You know nothing Even Tamil women fought for freedom struggle. You are Moorak G.Prabhu. You only count who died.
RE:RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by sharath chandra on Dec 09, 2007 08:45 PM
MR. PRABU U MUST HAVE SEEN two three big temples which were there even before Islam enters this country. they r clevrly destroying one by one and on protest they r giving small piece of land to construct hindu temples next to Sewer drains!!! have u seen all these
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Dec 09, 2007 09:14 PM
Excuse me. Mr G Prabhu . Try to firat get your facts correct. Your just an anti Tamil Racist. There is nothing intelligent about your comments other than spitting out anti Tamil venom. Of coures they may be of Indian origin, But currently they are citizens of Malaysia so they cannot call themselves Indian Tamils but Malaysian Tamils. Seocndly one swallwo does not make a summer just because you met a wealthy Tamil hotel keeper or owner does not mean all Tamils are well off. The descendants of Tamils who migrated as businessmen. Traders white collar workers and professionals are dong well. BUt most Tamilians were taken as indentrued labour by the British around 150 to 200 years ago. They are the majority, they gave thier sweat and blood to the prosperity of Malaysia and are stil marginalised and discrimanted because 1) they are of Indian background and then thier relgion. Of cousre there is no issue with Indians of Non Tamilian background, because thier just a microscopic minority and are not a thriea to the Malays, compared to the large Tamil population. Secondly they are desended mainly from wealthy Trading families ( similar to the rich Tamils who migrated there).FOr your information the Punjabis, Sindhis, Gujaratis in Malaysia/Singapore identify themselves by thier ethnnicity and not as Indians. If yo had lived there as you state you should hav ebeen aware about it but it is not an issue to you, only if Tamils identify themselves as Tamils it an issue to you. contd
RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Dec 09, 2007 09:30 PM
you always seem to be commenting about Karunanidhis comments and Tamilians have to prove themselves as HIndus. Karunanidhi's comments are his personal opinion and has every right to give his views just you come here to make your anti Tamil views. HIs views does not represent the views of othe Tamils. Tamilians do not have to prove to you that they are good HIndus/Christians or Muslims. That is their personal belief and it is none of yours any any others persons business. We are not asking you or the others to do the same. Tamilians have behavedin a very mature and diginified manner and treated Karunanidhi's commenst the way it has to be treated and have gone about their own business. If fanatics expected Tamilians to go around burning buses, buildings and killing non HIndu Minorites like th e way Muslim mobs do when ever there is a cartton or criticism of Islam in any part of the world. they wil be disappointed. The whole world including the same fanatics who want the Tamils to behave in the same manner condemned this type of behaviour. If Tamils had behaved in the same way it would have given a bad name to Hinduism and the Tamils and the very same people who want the Tamils to prove that they are good HIndus would have been the firat to comdemn. Would have called us racil and religious chauvanists giving Indai and Hinduism a bad name. The Chief Minister of West Bengal stated the same comment as Karunadihi, I do not see any abusive messages against him or the Bengalis.cont
RE:RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Dec 09, 2007 09:42 PM
unlike the personal abusive messges against Karunanidhi and the Tamilians. ( not that I want any one to behave in that manner), This only proves that these anti Tamils will use any excuse to abuse Tamils. Sri Lankan Tamils have lived in Sri Lanka for thousands of years and have for most part of their history ruled thems selves. They have the same right to Sri Lanka as the Sinhalese. Both are indegenous. There are group of Indian orgin Tamils who were brought by the British as indentured labourers around 150 years ago, these Tamils have nothing to with the current conflict. The current conflict is between the indegenous Eelam Tamils and the Sinhalses government ( not agisnt teh Sinhala people. The Tamils dis not cause theor problems. but this is due to the racist and genocidal attitude taken by succesive SInhala governments since independence against teh native Tamils/ This fact is widely acknowledged by the world ( Including Sri Lanka's supporters the USA and the Indian government) so rread and get yor facts correct. Before making your comments. DOnt let your prejudice colour your judgement. ANy person has a right to fight for their legitimate rights and that is enshrined in the United Nations charter, irresoective of their race, ethnicity and religon. Just because a government commits racial. language or relgious discrimination against another people it is not legitimate and the people fighting aginst such discrimination are not terrorists.
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Dec 10, 2007 06:17 AM
Mr G Prabhu. The basic fact remains that you are a Kannada chauvanist must be belonging to some movement called Kannada Chaluvliga or something. You have not brought in any concrete evidence to support your anti Tamil facts, other than vague statments like I have met two or three Tamils overseas who spoke in Tamil. I have also met Hindans who spke only in Hindi and Malayaless who soike only in Malayalam the list can go on . This does not mean every one belonging to that community are racists. You state you know Tamil so most probably you spoke to them in Tamil too.HIndi is not the only naational language there are 22 national languages and both HIndi and English are official languages so people have a choice. The hisotry of Tamil and India if aroudn 5000 years old. Only one other language can claim that antquity and that is Sanskrit and it is a dead language. Therefore the Tamil association with India is far older and has more claim than any other major ligiusistic/ethnic group. They dont have to prove they are Indinas strictly they should ask others to prove that. The Tamil language gave birth to and enriched many languages. It on the other hand intracted heavily with its contemporary languge Sanskrit and got enriched by it and enriched it too. You seem ot be having some comlex about skin colour stating something stupid like Eelam Tamils want a seperate state due to their skin colour. It is not the Tamils who are bothered about it but you. Use Fair & lovely cream.
RE:RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by G PRABHU on Dec 09, 2007 11:39 PM
The base facts remain that TAMILS once out Of India never acknowledge that they are Indians.For example i have seen when two or three tamils meet in a foreign country they speak in their language forgetting that there are 10 other guys of different linguistic back ground.TAMIL ELLAM is what they crave for may be because of their insecurity and knowning the fact that they have inferiority complexes on their colour and behaviour. I have experienced it myself in Tamil Nadu. HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN SPEAK THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE-HINDI? THEY HAVE AN ATTITUDE AGAINST THE REST 70% ARYAN RACE IN INDIA.No point justifying the cause of the Tamils in other countries where they themselves are the cause of their oum misery,
I come from Karnataka and i have seen the way they behave and create confusions.I have learnt tamil myself and at the same time have read their culture which is the most conservative and racist culture of all....and yet they ask for self determination!!!
RE:MALAYSIAN INDIANS
by Ram Bhakt on Dec 09, 2007 09:02 PM
Mr Prabhu Pl never insult the Tamilians' Desh bhakthi or their contribution to the Freedom struggle. No doubt the Pujabis etc lost more heavily because they were in the North and the South was naturally protected from the British and especially Muslim invasion. But it does not mean you can speak in that tone. Make all your comments on the present day Tamils for their silence on the statements of the street dog Karunanidhi who has been saying in an unchecked manner about Ram. That street dog should be beaten with chappals and stones till it stops barking such nonsense. Only in that area the Tamils are to be blamed
