I guess the media hyped up all the stories about Hindus in Malaysia. Despite the stories, all Hindus pray harmoniously and peacefully in Malaysia, some temples are enlarged over the years. Ethnic cleansing? That's the most absurd allegation against Malaysia. Not only temples are demolished sometimes, mosques and Chinese temple also were demolished because we have development control law to adhere to. Ppl can't simply build any place of worship anywhere they like. We're very much a secular country where we respect each other. Problems are bound to happen of course but we're better off without foreign influence. Look at Malaysia for real thing and I dun understand what this Hindraf thing is all about. It's just too absurd. If the Hindus are presecuted and discriminated against, the Hindraf founders would not be able to be what they are today, lawyers with full-fledged license. Unfortunately, they have shown that they still stick to the old history than progress to the future, where they belong to. These ppl should have been stripped of their Malaysian citizenship if they think living here is a nightmare. Sad to think abt my fellow Malaysians think this way.
RE:What discrimination...?
by G PRABHU on Dec 09, 2007 08:19 PM
I agree with you. These Tamils have created problems in India also. They dont even get along with the neighbouring states like Karnataka and Kerala.They even stoped down to the levels to insulting our Lord Ram who is respected in Malaysia and Indonesia.They deserve the strict discipline the malaysian government is imposing on the. The tamils are the worst racists i have ever seen in my life. There is no problem of any other indians with malaysians. We have so many students from malaysia and also an Malaysian prince was trained by the Indian army and was proud to lead the Indian army contigment during the republic day parade.
RE:What discrimination...?
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Dec 10, 2007 01:24 AM
Prabhu you have got too much Tamil phobia better consult a doctor otherwise you will soon join a mental hospital. I think your mind is in your knees.
RE:What discrimination...?
by bedlam on Dec 09, 2007 08:19 PM
u blody bas2rd...u muslim malaysian r all motrfkrs... wht abuse u go n suck ur allah's dik
A few weeks ago, Karunanidhi of Tamilnadu paid a lip service by making a comment or two about the treatment of Tamilians (he did not use the word Indians) in Malaysia.
Why is he now asking the government take this issue seriously? Why is he not threatening to pull the support off the govt?
Tamilians, please note, that is because he could care less for Tamilians. All he cares is about how to trash Hindus and make fun of Hindu gods. Karunanidhi is more dangerous than Bin Laden. When it comes to choosing between Tamilians and Malaysian Muslims, guess who he will choose?
Sorry Indians in Malaysia! There is a slim chance you would get help from Nepal but not from India. You do not meet certain religious requirements for receiving Indian help and moral support.
If you had certain religious affiliations, our PM would have strongly protested and spent a few weeks of sleepless nights.
We always feel anguish and sympathy with our fellow Indians whenver they are in distress wherever they live. Malaysia is not the only country where people of Indian origin are threatened. Some years ago, Fiji, a small island nation also ill treated Indians- a community which was in majority. Over the years the Indian population there has reduced and people have shifted their assets elsewhere. Srilanka is another case in point. However, the oprions with GOI are limited. We all know what happened when Rajiv Gandhi took a jingoistic and careless decision of sending IPKF to Sri Lanka. Malyasia is a soveriegn coutry and the people of Indian origin living there are Malaysian nationals. So apart from expressing sympathy or exerting pressure through UNO I do not think GOI can do much. When Idi Amin came to power in Uganda, he made scores of Indian living there to flee to Europe. India and USA. At that time also GOI could not do anything and people were left to survive on their own.
RE:The options with GOI are limited
by gopal gopal on Dec 09, 2007 07:40 PM
even India many peoples are suffering in the name of God.. for me Malasiya is far better than India.
RE:The options with GOI are limited
by siddhartha on Dec 09, 2007 07:45 PM
i kind of agree, people who have indian 'eticity' but havebeen living in other countries for ages and dont even have an indian citizen ship..do they qualify as indians??
its like pakistan trying to voice its opinion on the plight of indian muslims. would india listen?
RE:The options with GOI are limited
by gopal gopal on Dec 09, 2007 07:56 PM
Every Indian should accept that caste Hindus are discriminating, making atrocity to particular community. As a Tamilan, I would like to stress to the Malaysians tamilan that situation is very bad in Tamilnadu for particular caste.Same time i am feeling tamilnadu is better than other states. Even i am having relatives in malasiya and i informed the same things.I faced and facing many discrimination even though i am a doctorate and rich. This caste is doing all nonsense in our country. I think we have to try fix all these problems. if i hurt anybody by saying this, i am very sorry. but it is true.
RE:The options with GOI are limited
by bahmophet on Dec 09, 2007 08:17 PM
be more clear! who is this particualar community? at least anonmyity shud bring clarity! u write like the cogress who call riots as engimneered by a particular community.
RE:RE:The options with GOI are limited
by gopal gopal on Dec 09, 2007 08:33 PM
SCs?STs... is it ok for you.... as a Indian i thought i should not say this...indians will always want to mentions their community.....
i am writing this not only for a cause for resolve the problem. we must support them whatever the way we can. afterall they are our brother and siters by born. please help them in all the front. Yes Hindu Organisation ust stand and support them by giving the power to their voice on internation map.
Muslims can leave peacefully in India but no Hindus can leave peacefully in any Muslim country. Be it Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia,Mid East countries or African Muslim countries. Since India is soft state (so called secular) so no one takes us seriously. If we have leaders like Modi then other Muslim countries will listen to us and dare not touch hindhus there. Let Indian Govt rise to occasion & take up strongly with Malaysian Govt about the plight of Hindhus there. In the meanwhile I appeal to all Indians not to go to Malaysia for tourism. Boycott Malaysia.
RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by siddhartha on Dec 09, 2007 07:46 PM
muslims dont really live peacefully in india..they face more or about as much prejudice in india as hindus do in malaysia.
Muslims here stand worse than SC/ST in terms of development
RE:RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by siddhartha on Dec 09, 2007 07:49 PM
and 'hindus' living in lalaysians for ages dont qualiy as indians i would thnk.
My symapthy is with anyone who is marginalised anywhere, but its like muslims in india asking pakistan for help because they are underdevloped and consistenly face prejudice and sometimes persecuation by propnens of hindutva...(starting with demolition of babri masjid).
ever story has two sides to it..i am not siding anyone but request u to see things from all perspectives
RE:RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by ramesh kumar on Dec 09, 2007 08:14 PM
You seem to be ill informed about Indian Muslims. We are proud of our Indian Muslims.They have become Presidents, Vice Presidents, Chief Justice, Chief Ministers and serving in many top positions in many Govt and Non Govt Organisations. It is their education system & religion which makes them backward. Today our media so strong that if anyone says anything against any minority, all our news channel will run the story day in day out. See the plight of Muslims in Pakistan, how free they are. Certainly Indian Muslims are far bettewr than Pakistani Muslims. Ask any Indian Muslim.
RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by varghese on Dec 09, 2007 07:51 PM
well said Ramesh ..as an Indian Christian I fully support ur views!!
What is happening in Malayasia is Muslims r forcing hindus to become Muslims..saudi arabia and the middle east people r pumping money to make this happen..sadly no secular govt want to take up this cause..as many muslims live in their countries also..i would ask the govt of India to step in and decide the future of hindus both in india and abroad.
RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by ramesh kumar on Dec 09, 2007 08:07 PM
so it is true that Malaysia and Saudi Arabia are doing attrocities on Hindhus and so all other Muslim countries. Same is not true for India because basically Hindhus have never invaded any country nor perpetuated terroism. Modi only did Tit for tat once. If there is no anti indian or terrorist activities in India, no Modi will be born in India. Hindhus are basically non voilent and believes in Love & respect towards everyonne and hatred towards none. Today some handful of Hindhus who talk of Voilence towards Muslims is a natural reaction to What some Muslims are doing everyday in all parts of the country "bomb blast", killing innocent people, killing hindhus in Kashmir, driving Hindhus away from J & K,
RE:RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by gopal gopal on Dec 09, 2007 08:17 PM
do you think that Indians not invaded to foreign country. did you study about that chozhan invaded far east and srilanka.. historian is telling that during his period only discrimination and atrocity is started... this king has given lot of land to particular community (higher caste) leading to "padi nilai samuthayam" in tamilnadu.
RE:Boycot t Malaysia
by gopal gopal on Dec 09, 2007 08:10 PM
i do agree with you. we have to boycott our own country for discriminating, atrocity, killing etc... every body should honest... you are killing particular community, Muslims.... first try to fix and focus our problem... then look to other country....
The recent incidents in Malaysia is highly disturbing. I feel the Tamilians are marginalised, suppressed and oppressed. Where can my brothers go the only place is the mother country. But India seems to have no concern for this ethnic cleansing taking place in Malaysia . If the chief minister ask something then the oppostion brand him as seperatist.Kalaingar is our father of all Tamilians and we have to go to him. for me he is the father of our nation. If kalaingar was not there the whole Tamilians race would have wiped out from the face of the earth. So I urge Kalingar to voice the issue through his MPs in the Parliment. The British Government is answerable to all these people ,becasue 200 years ago they took our Tamil brothers to malaysia and since then they are exploited, so they have to be given British Passport. Tamilan endru solada thalai nimrirundhu Nillada .
RE:I am Proud to be an Tamil
by on Dec 09, 2007 07:50 PM
Why did you all go to malaysia for such na long time if you all have trouble.Living in a foreign land is what you guys do, be it dubai or malaysia.When things are fine then you guys are fine with it but when things are not in your favoiur you demand ridiculous things like british passports........and still wnat to be helped by the GOI....what a joke! I feel you all deserve to be kicked around
RE:I am Proud to be an Tamil
by srinivas ragunathan on Dec 09, 2007 08:26 PM
If you call yourself Indian, then people will listen to you in India. If you call yourself a Tamilian only, then look to your FATHER Kalaignar(Did he visit your place before you were born?). That coward and crook cannot even step out of Tamil Nadu as the Hindus all over the country are waiting with chappals to beat the old man and throw him out of any state he will be visiting. Do you expect him to save you. Only Indians can save you. Not the Karunanidhi coward.
RE:I am Proud to be an Tamil
by Ganesh on Dec 09, 2007 07:48 PM
Pastor Samuel, you dont make any request.. you pastor cheap evangelists only want to convert hindus to christians..you have no sentiments at all..all you want is to increase head count of christianity....
RE:RE:They made their bed...
by on Dec 09, 2007 07:35 PM
Yeh chale phaatu, jaa bibi ke godh me jaake bait. You can afford post such comment because you must be sleeping peacefully in your mother's lap
RE:RE:RE:They made their bed...
by on Dec 09, 2007 07:41 PM
Apun kya indian hai. Aaa bhail peechu se maar. Apna culture hai aao aur ek bhar maro...gravy lagake.
India has the limitation to support. As Malaysia being an independent country, India does not have anything to do with this issue. These so-called Indians are Malaysians...... Those who are Indian citizens should get aid... but not for Malaysian citizens....
RE:what kind of support?
by on Dec 09, 2007 07:53 PM
very true.......same goes the other way .......who are you to play with sentiments of the so called mother nation and its people whereas u are happy to stay outside the country and cry for help when u get kicked around.....that's what u guys deserve......why not ask help aomewhere else......b'cos u know ur sentimental act wud not work there!!!!!
Can malaysia go the Srilankan way where the tamil who were marginalised took up arms and got funding from tamils through out the world.
Well if we want to prevent it let the spineless Indian government talk with the malaysian government and take ome concrete steps.
Already the terrorist forces like LTTE is waiting for oprtunities like this.
Well Im not tamil or nevr ben to malaysia but i have many friends in malaysia who have told me how the malaysian auhorities treat ethnic indians. For once please show that you care!!!!
RE:Can Malaysia go the SriLankan Way
by Sami on Dec 09, 2007 07:19 PM
your idea is good. Tamil tigers may help them to creat a srilanka like situation. Are the tamils there ready to do that?
RE:RE:Can Malaysia go the SriLankan Way
by Rhazes Ashrawi on Dec 09, 2007 08:05 PM
malaysia is a decent law abiding god fearing country.The chief religion happens to be islam.Hindu tamils cannot understand its order.Why should malaysians give equal rights to all tamils.Malaysians have something precious and cant give it away that easily. Some idiot compared the state of muslims whom he said are doing well in india as if indian muslims are a foreign peopleIndian muslims are indians who merely happen to follow a different religion like christians.Do Tamil christians or keral christians become foreigners.Bad comparison. Another idiotic statement was tamils were colonised. he he.tamils went to malaysia on their own choice because life in india was miserable.Similiarly millions of indians live and work in muslim countries of the gulf and have enriched themselves. Gujaratis have business companies in dubai and kuwait.There are millions of malayali tamilians of sri lanka,and other hindus from all over india. Yet do they even bother when muslim citizens of india are totally discriminated hated and slaughtered at the slightest excuse caling them terrorists etc.They RE NOW DESPERATELY TRYING TO ELECT A CRIMINAL LIKE MODI WHO HAS A SORDID RECORD OF ADVOCATING THE GENOCIDE OF NEARLY 300 MUSLIM CIVILIAN MOSTLY FAMILIES CHIDLREN AND OLD MEN.hE BOASTS THAT HE IS VEREY BRAVE BECAUSE 'HE STOOD UP TO TERRORISTS'.THE CRIMINAL MINDED PEOPLE WHO WISH TO ELECT HIM HAIL HIM AS A HERO.tHIS FASCIST BULLY IS A SHAMELESS BULLY AND A LIAR .tHESE HINDUS ALWAYS CREATE A PROBLEM WHEREEV
RE:Can Malaysia go the SriLankan Way
by on Dec 09, 2007 07:55 PM
MAy be u r not tamil.doesn't really matter.U btalk like an ididot by calling the government u voted for spineless.......describes ur character truly. DO u want to be like the ameericans who get their people killed in foreign land for no gain?
