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mahe
a wrong depiction...
by mahe on Aug 03, 2006 01:23 AM

>>>>"But that is not a legitimate cause for Israel's war."--who is to decide the legitamacy of a war..there is no pre-defined glossary that teaches a nation when and when not to got to a war...
>>>>"The occupation makes India's humiliating and deeply bruising experience of colonial rule look like a picnic."--i hope the author was not born when india was still under colonial rule..Mister please note that besides the murders that killed thousands of indian freedom fighters the britishers killed millions of indians by making them more vulnerable to famines..this is second only to hitlers' record..

>>>>"Third, Israel is quintessentially expansionist"-Israel is expansionist and pakistan is not...ha ha the biggest joke of the century,,they are the guys sitting over the fence to jump into our territory at the wink of the indian forces..u must be sent to Kashmir first not Palestine...
>>>>"Israel has not gained security for its civilians "--if so why is it that terrorist attacks of the magnitude of the recent one in mumbai never occur in israel..
>>>>" the greater the hatred it generates in the Arab"--common sir.it is not going to generate any love even if it offers a frndly hand

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Satish Sasikumar
Provoked
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 02, 2006 11:16 PM

Praful..
After reading you article I fail to understand what provoked you write all this nonsense...Were you on an overdose of medication or under the influence of alcohol..

What do you mean by
" There is a sane, sober and peaceful alternative to this approach: to build confidence among the neighbours, strengthen people-to-people contacts and pursue the peace process with Pakistan while bringing the culprits of terrorism to book. But that means rejecting 'Tunda-style' wishful thinking and militaristic approaches.."

You think Indians would have to digest this nonsense after seeing innocent lives being sacrificed for no fault of theirs...What confidence you think would exist when have been reatedly backstabbing us..

I read it one of the messages in another blog..CBMs are nothing but CITY BLASTING MEASURES...





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Satish Sasikumar
War
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 02, 2006 10:18 PM

Hi Satya
"But don't forget, war is never a solution to anything in this world..."

Agreed..after 4 wars we could not tame them..for they are rogues, whose only motto is to destabilize out country..Remember this is not the usual battlefield where a well prepared army is out with their weapons awaiting the other.

They are in to a proxy war with us..they attack us in a coward manner..for they would never win over us in the battlefield...


Anyway who wants a war with them..they are imposing it
We have to weed the terrorists both outside and within the country by crushing them wherever we find them..by giving them a message that we too can use force..

Could you expect to educate the wrong doers who never want to think right..
how long we request them to stop cross border terrorism.

Though I do not undermine the CBMs, diplomatic talks,you think still they would help..and one day we would perish in one go..remember they have nuclear weapons..One has to think as it is already getting too late..things are turning ugly.

what are the other measures you think would work in order to counter terrorism..what are we to do..suggest a solution..rather than saying those things..


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Satish Sasikumar
Rethink...I beleive you were not in your senses
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 02, 2006 09:50 PM  | Hide replies


What truth are you trying to say...

"Any Holy book said to kill the innocent people? Killing innocent civilians are the real terrorists"

So what would you call the ones who killed 70000+ Indians in a coward way "

How could you agree with article posted by Bidwai.. please elaborate..what are you trying to prove after going through that biased article..

" Mahatma Gandhi is one of the most respected person in the world. Peace can be brought only by understanding and solving the problem but not by creating a problem. War can only create problem not the peace."

But do you really feel one could apply the doctrine of Ahimsa on the ones who have gone insane..how do you think Ahimsa, CBMs can help acheive peace in this case..could you elaborate, just pointing out won't work

One has to keep renewing strategies according to the kind of problem..and not going by the same rote all over gain.
I beleive we will always follow the path of Ahimsa...but then for how long..probably when all would be over.."
A limited attack to weed out terrorists cannot be referred to as war,however if they want it to be,then
may it be..after all we had 4 wars..still are we to trust them...




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Satish Sasikumar
RE:Rethink...I beleive you were not in your senses
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 03, 2006 08:11 PM
This was a reply for the message from one Mr.Syed

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Satish Sasikumar
Think
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 02, 2006 09:23 PM

Hi Iqbal..

Since I found these words I reply...
"...then there would compromise in pakistani nation as well.."
do you think solving the Kashmir problem will lead to the path of peace..Basically Mush and his followers are using the word "K" to destabilize India..Do you still think these rogues will ever compromise..
Just yesterday FBI released images of terrorist camps in pakistan..what for Pakistan is breeding these 52 or more camps..whom according to you would be referred to as "freedom fighters" by some ..after taking the lives of innocent people no gentry in the world (other than terrorists) can call them by that name..

The moment the Kashmir dispute is over these rogues may come up with some other point to destabilize the country...and probably people like you would again suggest another compromise.

Grow up man..think before you write...nothing is above the nation..not even religion.
Just do not present the view of a handful kashmiris who wish to be called as kashmiris..Most Kashmiris know what suits them...

KASHMIR IS IN INDIA and WILL REMAIN IN INDIA..

A mad bull has to be taken by its horns..no way..you have to...just weed them out..

Think..please




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Satish Sasikumar
Nonsense
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 02, 2006 09:03 PM  | Hide replies

Hello,
I do not know your nationality, but I found these words in your message

"May be there is posibilty to be a Azad kashmir"

KASHMIR IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA AND NOBODY IN THE WORLD SHOULD DARE TO EYE IT..."
Forget about Azad kashmir..there may not be an Azad Pakistan on the world map in the days to come, if things are stretched too far..

I beleive your message is not in tune with the main issue...you are not well verse with current Indian sentiments, probably because you are in UK..at least there are some in the country who wants to teach the wretched Paki terrorists a lesson..

How can you coin these words.."lets address the core problem, cas what we see some as terroist are some people's freedom fighters.."

The ones who took more than 70000 innocent Indian lives and are willing to take more..could anyone call them freedom fighters..
Just ask the family who has lost a dear one and you would realize...in case the same "freedom fighters" blow up one of your dear ones(God forbid that)..you would realize

I request you think once before you post a message this kind that can mislead..please

Bharat Mata ki Jai...
True Indian

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Satish Sasikumar
RE:Nonsense
by Satish Sasikumar on Aug 03, 2006 07:50 PM
This was in reply to a message "Well said" posted by one Mr.Iqbal

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deride
PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH! operation reciprocity
by deride on Aug 02, 2006 08:18 PM

It is irresponsible to let terrorist groups attack Indian citizens without any retaliation. Govt. of Indies FIRST obligation is to the safety of INDIAN CITIZEN to protect against terrorist domestic and foreign. Bring back POTA to deal with domestic subsidiaries of paki terror groups and attack to degrade pakistan military infrastructure where infiltration occurs. Destroy LeT HQ in downtown lahore. Call it operation reciprocity .Let the terrorist and their sponsors understand they will pay heavy price in blood and money if they attack India.

PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH!


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Yo
Cut it - Leftist appeasement
by Yo on Aug 02, 2006 06:13 PM

Praful,
Pls cut the crap out my friend.We have had enough of this confidence building , people to people contacts blah blah.My confidence is shattered.I was in the same train on 7/11.Thanks.
Accept it .We are at war both with the terrorist outside and within.And the terrorist within are the politicians and policy makers who will go to any extent to garner votes and appease perpetrators of the crime.The Congress , BJP ,and THE SHIV SENA for helping the likes of Dawood , the Memons etc and the Leftist for the bangladeshi infiltration.
While much can be debated on Israel , one thing goes for them .Don't mess with us.

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Jeet
Anti sem
by Jeet on Aug 02, 2006 06:06 PM

All this shenanigans, using Tunda, India, kashmir, terrorists, mumbai blasts and others to get to your favourite topic, hatred towards Israel; Anti-semitic bigot you are Mr. Bidwai.

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