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Perils of the Israel model


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Vishwanath G
The pakistani Viewpint on Israel Model
by Vishwanath G on Aug 04, 2006 01:21 PM  | Hide replies

Hi first of all to all pakistani friends who have cared to join this discussion..

only one question please??

Can Pakistan and all arab fundamentalist,theocratic,draconian countries guarantee that once palestine gets its piece of Land on the Gaza Strip there will b not a single Israeli-Jew slain in the middle-east or in any part of the world..??

No u cant..Why coz the militants/jehadis/terrorists or whatever,trained financed by your ilk for the last 5 decades r no longer functioning in your control..You guys didnt evn. know that your Mr.Nuclear Scientist operated an International nuclear racket right under your noose and your ISI brothers were feigning ignorance of any knowhow??What a joke!!

Do you know what Iranians,Syrians and the Hezbollah wants:Israel should be eliminated.Its not abt. liberation of Palestine.Open your eyes..

Trust me no one in India wants violence.We r the world's most tolerant country...
We only want you to wake up from slumber and see what your government is doing??how Ur own Nawaz sharif,Benazir Bhutto and Musharraf r demeaning comdescending themselves in front of the world..
Its for ur ppl to take action and we can b friends forever..

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LachitEast
RE:The pakistani Viewpint on Israel Model
by LachitEast on Aug 06, 2006 06:50 PM
Dear Vishwanath,

Errr......i've encountered one problem!? The basis of Pakistan wasn't 'a land of India's Muslims after the British left'(safe apparently from marauding Hindu mobs!!?), it was verily the renewal of pre-British Mughal Islamic domination over the infidels (Hindus in this case).

When the very basis for Pakistan is HATRED TOWARDS INDIA, the moment Pakistanis become our friends; that basis is destroyed and with that the reason of it's existence!! Pakistan can't remain then, can it??

Wish you all the best for your pipe dreams!! While being cozy, warm on the surface the Pakis are only scheeming for the Indian(read Hindu)civilisation's destruction! Doesn't make sense in encouraging our own destruction, does it??

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LachitEast
Praful Bidwai-eternal apologist for Islamist-Maoist terrorists.....
by LachitEast on Aug 04, 2006 04:54 AM

Dear Praful 'Die-Hard Commie' Bidwai,

Understand that your heart bleeds when Arabs-Muslims get killed or face the flak from the 'kafirs', but that sensitivity isn't displayed when 'CLOSER HOME'our jawans, Kashmiris, Hindus get butchered by your 'Jehadi friends' funded by the same cabal i.e. - Saudi/Arabs/Pakistani/Muslim combine from the Gulf to the USA.

Sadly the early Zionists (communal living Socialists modeled on Soviet farming!!!) weren't fighting the Palestinians....their enemies were the Arabs of the British Mandate of Palestine which itself coined by the Romans only next to be used by British Colonialists in the 20th century(Cis-Jordanie in French) and the Arabs around it! Jews existed and thrived before Islam arrived on the scene; strangely though Islam's followers were exhorted by their prophet to kill unbeleivers (chiefly Jews!!) and their caravans. So the enemity isn't just from the last century?!

A country of 5 million Jews-Druze-Israeli Arabs is terrorised by 10 million 'Palestinian' Arabs around it and supported by the billion strong Islamic World! So according to you it should meekly surrender it's historic places just like your country; India is doing!!

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amar
Perils of the Israel model
by amar on Aug 03, 2006 04:47 PM

You cannot expect any better understanding or response from the communists ideology. I am yet to see any communists in India ever taking nationalists stand.
In fact, India faces challenges of Jehadis many more times than Israel. However, Indian response to these challenges are muted thanks to breed of Praful Bidwais and secularists Congress. Thatis why 200 Mumbaikars die without any action taken against Jehadis.

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Adheet
Another left looney
by Adheet on Aug 03, 2006 04:45 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dont know if i should laugh or cry at this absurdity.

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Grama Seetharam
Praful Bidwai's article on the middle east
by Grama Seetharam on Aug 03, 2006 03:30 PM

Dear Sir, With reference to Praful Bidwai's article it has to be kept in mind that Israel has been a friend in need for India specially during the Kargil conflict whereas arab states persistently support Pakistan. Sure, Israel has not solved the conflict there but they have imposed heavy costs on hezbollah and hamas. India must certainly impose heavy costs on Pakistan for sheltering terrorist organisations through covert activities. Bidwai's proposal for people to people contacts is utopian and senile for the simple reason that using so called people to people contacts Pakistan will smuggle in more terrorists to India. Bidwai I strongly suspect is carrying on his anti India crusade at the behest of some infamous agency outside indian borders. Close strategic relations with Israel is a core Indian interest. Dr.G.N.Seetharam Australia

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Disgusted
Hightime you are de-confused
by Disgusted on Aug 03, 2006 03:26 PM  | Hide replies

High time Rediff stopped publishing such illogical and longwinded balony.

Praful should make up his mind - he wants to write against Israel's recent attacks or about ways of fighting terrorism in India.

The four arguments are against Israel's legality, not saying in anyway why that model of fighting terrorism is unsuitable for India.

Illegal, immoral, unauthorised .... !!!! Come on Prafull, what world do you live in? Talking of fight against TERRORISM being illegal and immoral !!



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Lt Col V N Laxminarayana (Retd)
Israel model
by Lt Col V N Laxminarayana (Retd) on Aug 03, 2006 11:05 AM

Dear Sir,
who to tell the world that India won't take it 'lying down'; it is no longer a 'soft State? For the last 60 yrs our sane, sober and peaceful alternative approach to build confidence among the neighbours, strengthen people-to-people contacts and pursue the peace process with Pakistan is going on without bringing the culprits of terrorism to book. I think none of UR siblings might have killed in terrorist violence, I pray it should come soon, so that UR thinking will change.
What we are advocating is to zero tolerance to culprits of killers. I would like to ask the Hon'ble Precedent of India whether we have to weight up to 2020? UR so called developed country. Gandhi and his wishful thinkers have gave this type breed of soft thinker like Praful Bidwai and brought India to this state of affair. Today soft thinkers even destroyed fertility in women to give birth to brave ones.
I DONOT KNOW WHEN INDIA WILL STOP BREEDING SOFT BREED.

Margao - Goa

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C R Anand
Just one side of the coin
by C R Anand on Aug 03, 2006 10:13 AM

Israel may be over reacting, but the actions of the terrorists are no less. Islamic aggression understands only aggression. Sir: Please do not justify India's impotent silence to the Mumbai attacks. Even the BJP is sitting quiet without criticizing the UPA's cowardice. As country, we are a push over.
And pushover is what we have been for so many centuries, allowing every plunderer trample us. Lets learn from our mistakes in history.
Anand!

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