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Sayeed
Persecution Complex
by Sayeed on Mar 23, 2004 04:09 PM  | Hide replies

I have a feeling that a large majority of Indian Hindus live in a state of Persecution Complex , implying that they think that to all their woes there are Muslims are responsible.Sadly enough this should not be a coping mechanism.I sincerely believe that they need some kind of mass Psychological Treatment to get out of this state,This at the same time harms our national harmony and the concept of nationhood.There is no justification whatsover of killings in whatever name it should be and neither should there be disrecpect for each other...the killings of Godhra were unfortunate and these were direct results of nationwide provocation and disrespect towards the Muslims that a tough government taking an enlightened stand (Indian approach of Sarvadharma Sambhaav even) should not have allowed.The author has talked of Human Rights organisations standing for Muslims that is a farce ..Modi inspite of his governments Silent testimony to the butchering of Indian Muslims is not known in the same terms internationally as Slobodan Milosevic and Ariel Sharon.If one compares the figures of deaths in the Palestinian Intifada and the pogrom in Gujrat, I am sure more people have been killed in India

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Akshay
RE:Persecution Complex
by Akshay on Mar 24, 2004 05:52 PM
Mass psychological treatment isn't necessary Sayeed, a true leader would do.

There's an old Sanskrit saying, yedha raaja, tadha praja (like ruler, like ruled).

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Naveen
Flawed argument
by Naveen on Mar 23, 2004 03:37 PM  | Hide replies

With due respect and heart felt sympathies to Khem Singh and other victims of racism, I would like to bring out the third class and cheap mentality of the author, who has time and again used these kind of incidents to justify the barbaric acts of the hooligans, who didn't even spare the unborn babies. The filthy attitude of this author is surprising. He tries to project the suffering undergone by some people at the hands of barbarians as less severe by enumerating some more incidents of similar kind.
This author exhibits total apathy towards the muslim victims. He calls a helpless person begging for his life a poster-boy. He feels that it's OK even if thousands of muslim women are raped and pregnant women thrown into fire, just because a bunch of "secular fools" listen to the grievences of muslims. He takes his perverted logic a little bit further and feels that nobody in our country should try to fight for justice, for these victims, because minorities(read as muslims) have been pampered too much till now.
I would like to advise the author that, if he wishes to fight for justice for sombody, there's no need to downplay the severity and pain suffered by others.

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Gauzbig
?FAKE ENCOUNTERS? FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ! (Concluding part)
by Gauzbig on Mar 23, 2004 03:18 PM

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The greatest oppressor of the Indic Religionists is the RSS and the BJP. These are craven usurpers. They seek like the hated institutionalized Semitic religions and Marxists to protect vested interest through institutionalizing, subverting and hijacking the Indic religionist for a mess of political pottage.

Incidentally secularism is not the greatest threat to culture and hex and voodoo in the name of culture.

The greatest threat to obscurantist practices and voodoo in the name of culture is a scientific temper and reason. This is because they both drive human rights and human societies to new limits (sky is their limit).

Human rights are the greatest threat to obscurantist and superstitious practices that are branded as culture by the not so gentle Subramaniam Swamy and the gentle Srinivasan.

The more you pursue human rights the more you challenge local culture got the drift?

So pl. hope and pray dear Srinivasan that human rights remains a cottage industry so it can be throttled at birth by the policies of a reactionary government that has no clue how to nurture the cottage industries and has systematically decimated them.

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Gauzbig
FAKE ENCOUNTERS? FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ! (Part III)
by Gauzbig on Mar 23, 2004 03:14 PM

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Now to the Srinivasan coup de grace!

Oppression of Indic Religionists
Secularism is a travesty and discriminatory against the native culture.
A dysfunctional society riddled by asymmetry is anti- Hindu or some similar sounding bunkem!!

These are egregious lies. But am confuting them by stating the obvious.

Which of the human rights organizations or hated secularists have objected to the prosecution of ANY human rights violations against Hindus or even irrespective of religion of the victim?

Ultimately human rights are not a monopoly (never was).

What then prevents all those concerned about a just society like the great protectors of Hindus from approaching the NHRC or the SC?

Does this reflect a concern for human rights or for hindus?

If there are those enemies of Hindus that are conspiring by their silence as is suggested what about the protectors and the Hindu Hriday Samrats and rath driven activists?

Where have all these cowboys gone??


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gauzbig
?FAKE ENCOUNTERS? FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ! (Part 2)
by gauzbig on Mar 23, 2004 03:09 PM

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While the Government of India is unable to exercise extra territorial rights (like the US or Israel) what are the Indian missions abroad meant for? Peddling myths and propaganda?

The present government of India is derelict in its duties to Indian citizens abroad. Pravasi Bharatiya Divas and such other balderdash notwithstanding!

A shining example of such dereliction of duties is probably the case of Khem Singh highlighted by Srinivasan! Where is the Akali Dal the great protector of the Sikhs and their cohorts in the Government the RSS- BJP- George ('Whats new about rape' ? Fernandes) who will cry hoarse about murder of Sikhs in Delhi (and rightly so) but have lost their voice when it comes to Khem Singh. Is it because this issue is not such a great vote puller? Are they still aspiring for special ally status ?
Is it because this government is only there to extend patronage to the RSS and its brood of vandals, thugs and hooligans- all other Indians Hindus, Sikhs, Parsis, Jains are left to their own devices. But then stating the obvious is not convenient for Srinivasan so suppression of the truth and suggestion of a falsehood, thats the name of the game!!

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Gauzbig
?FAKE ENCOUNTERS? FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ! (Part 1)
by Gauzbig on Mar 23, 2004 03:04 PM

Srinivasan has lost the argument with himself (forget about opponents) and has to create bogeymen to confuse and to launch another misguided Agni (his next weekly diatribe and regimen of purveying mendacity)!

The primary protection for the Indian citizen and visitors to India is the Government of India. It is a sad reflection on the feel good men and their toadies, that the absence of human rights in Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh and Jharkand (places where the BJP Suraj has dawned and Human rights have set) does not disturb their feel good. Some equanimity this!

It is also no accident, that in the face of such licentiousness amidst edicts to feel good, the National Human Rights Commission, the Supreme Court and various NGOs have to direct the government that stole Suraj (and misappropriated it) to the true meaning of Raj Dharma in action (not empty rhetoric).

So now, gentle Srinivasan would rather go after those who have the gumption to challenge a criminally derelict government (not directly mind you but obliquely)!!! What a frail attempt at diversion this!

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savithri rajkumar
khel singh death
by savithri rajkumar on Mar 23, 2004 02:32 PM


i do feel stongly about the relative discrimination against the so called lesser children. it is a shame that we are always the oppressed.i wonder if we lack the religious fervour of our more equal brethenand could that be our weakness

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kuldeep
Injustice
by kuldeep on Mar 23, 2004 02:12 PM

I really appreciate such issues they should definetely be raised, the government should initiate steps to prevent the reoccurence of such incidents. I also feel that NRI's can play an important role in it as they also are a strong part of US development they should give the actual figures of such happening to the goverment.I myself will try the best level to communicate this to diffrent people.

Thanks for working to such a noble cause

Kuldeep Handoo


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Ashwin
Prisoners are not choosers
by Ashwin on Mar 23, 2004 02:01 PM

Prisons has its own laws. You eat what you are served, or choose your way to death. Khem Singh chose the latter. What is the matter now? You can't choose your diet when you are in a prison. Do you serve Mutton Biriyani daily in Indian prisons?

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