Ilayaraja does not want to enter Bollywood because he dont want to fight with R.D.Burman Who he likes and ilayaraja is diehard fan of S.D.Burman.This is my assumption. Anyway KB,MR,BR were packing up. Come on Raja give one more hit. i think his best ever work is "GURU" malayalam . thiagarajan
Re: ilayaraja
by TruthAndFact on Sep 24, 2010 10:21 PM
RD Burman is no match for Ilayaraja...with majority of his works inspired from others music like AR Rahman.
The only composers who are comparable with Ilayaraja are G.Ramanathan and Naushad Ali...
Re: Re: ilayaraja
by pkr ramesh on Sep 25, 2010 09:06 AM
Mr Truth and Fact my reply which did not contain any abusive,four letter words,has been deleted by modreator for reasons best known to him
Re: Re: Re: ilayaraja
by TruthAndFact on Sep 25, 2010 10:25 PM
Mr pkr Ramesh, music is a concept that looks beyond your grasp..better refrain from posting..The moderator did the right thing.
Re: Re: Re: Re: ilayaraja
by TruthAndFact on Sep 25, 2010 10:27 PM
Also for Thyagarajan...80's music in Hindi Film industry was ruled by Laksmikanth Pyarelal and Jatin Lalit..
RD Burman was not there, he was finished by mid 80's made his comeback in his final movie 1942- Love Story.
Mountains may fly, oceans may dry But not the music of this living legend. Comparing him with others is beyond stupidity. He is the God of Music. Through his compositions he is instilling peace, world peace. Listen to his albums How to Name It? Nothing But Wind Thiruvasakam The Music Messiah India 24 Hours The above said albums can be listened and can be understood by any human around the world. We Indians should feel proud that we are all living in his period.
Truly a magnificent and rare talent. Have listened a few scores of his hindi composition of the movie Anjali, truly mesmerising. Wish he had composed more music for Hindi films.
Everyone knew that whole India listened to Hindi Musics only in 1960s and 1970s . Southies will sing only Hindi songs in bathroom. But IllayaRaja Turned the Southie to listen to Tamil,Telugu songs from 1982 till date southies started to sing South songs in their Bathroom instead of Hindi.
ARR the Student from Raja group came into the Scene , now the whole India is dancing for his Songs irrespective of the language
Its a pity that many associate IR's self esteem to arrogance. He does not butter anyone to climb the ladder of success. He refuses to flatter any directors, producers, actors for no reason. He does not work special for SPECIAL DIRECTORS, SPECIAL ACTORS AND SPECIAL BANNERS. To him kamal movies are as important as pandiarajan's. Can you believe he composed a song with extremely complex orchestration like "thendral vandhu theendum " for a low budget movie "avatharam" with Nasser as the hero and director. It shows his depths of sincerity as a composer. If a man refuses to stoop down to the whims and fancies of film industry personalities, he cannot be termed as arrogant. He is a man who always keeps his head and music held high. K.Balachander who was the key person in IR's downfall is paying the price for it and so is Bharathi raja and several others. But IR is still around and has won a national award and akshaya samman award at the age of 65. And above all , he has the hearts, wishes and prayers of all 1970, 1980, 1990 born people who swear by his music... Who's egoistic and humble is something that we cannot decide..it is one's own conscience that decides....
Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by puregold on Sep 22, 2010 10:12 AM
Could you please explain how K.Balachander was the reason behind Ilayaraja's downfall?
Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by pkr ramesh on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 PM
So Ms Nitu in that process who are the losers? It is you and me and Filim music in general Let us face it Producers pay, directors plan others contribute,why should ego come in the way? That is where ARR excels Good PRO,above average talent,top of the filim music world Our friend sulking.If he had not got into legal hassels with Sippys in 80s he would have ruled That is my regret Sheer talent who should have been all over. Thanks Balki now too late I suppose Hope I am wrong Hope he regains his glory on all India level He might not want it but as hard core fan I want it
Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by vimalan sadhasivam on Sep 21, 2010 11:08 PM
why are you worried about all India fame. If they are not ready to welcome his music, its their lose.
Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by pkr ramesh on Sep 21, 2010 11:24 PM
I want people to listen to his preludes,interludes and his grammar No other MD has can ever do it as of now He has spent more time on these details Ask any Musician worth his salt he will agree I have interacted with guys (bollywood) who have played for 60 years All say Raja is special I want him to be heard and enjoyed Sorry may sound fanatical but Raja is unique
Re: Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by nitu krishnan on Sep 21, 2010 11:46 PM
I understand. But the fact remains that bollywood superficially decides who's on top...Kamal Hassan and VaniJayaram were not welcomed in Bollywood. P.susheela and S.Janaki are far superior than Lata and Asha bhosle..But NI's get more recognition than their worth. Lata Mangeshkar who showed Vani Jayaram the door to exit has Bharat Ratna to her credit. Pitiable state.
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by pkr ramesh on Sep 22, 2010 09:03 PM
Dont blame Bollywood,Lata,and Asha.What was happening here TMS,P Suseela were undisputed monopoly singers here No other talent was avialable? Occasionaly SJanaki and club songs LREswari.Vani came here after Guddi that too in late70s It was IR who broke the coitre Malaysia Vasu Jency,Janaki(prominence) Chitra,SPB,and Sujatha etc etc Vani is soprano voice Lata is lata every artiste will say lata deserved what she got
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by nitu krishnan on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 PM
SPB once said "People call P.Susheela as South Indian Lata...but, actually Lata should be called as North India P.susheela "...I am quoting SPB... And as you say every singer is unique. But has P.susheela or S.Janaki or SPB or TMS or KJY got Bharatratna ?
Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by nitu krishnan on Sep 21, 2010 11:07 PM
There are too ways of looking at things..
1. IR, just as his music is on a different plane.
2. As a tamil film music lover. what is that I want ? simple I want to him to compose music. Your concern is, about his ego(?) coming in way of his career. But imagine, had he been welcomed to compose in Bollywood in the 80s, I and you would have been loosers of 100s of wonderfull songs.. you are talking about IR not getting recognition.But I am happy that,ultimately we are the beneficiaries. It’s a blessing in disguise. SPB once remarked in a TV show “IR does not go behind fame, he is happy with what has come his way “...IR himself is happy composing maximum for Tamil movies. You say that he does’nt compose as much as he did before.Ironically, the output of other MD’s in the last 10 years has contrastingly glorified IR’s Music than before, much more than when he was on the top. Only when people listen to the “products “ of other MDs , can they distinctly see IR’s genius. I guess,IR fans have evolved to Hardcore IR fans and fanatics only in the past decade. My humble opinion is that Tamil film Industry does not deserve him anymore and hence I would love to hear Non-filmy albums from his studios..where he can experiment to his hearts content…
Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by Flavors on Sep 22, 2010 02:28 PM
Nitu, u had hit the nail on the head. Bollywood's loss is our gain. He would have been spoiled had he entered bollywood.
Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by pkr ramesh on Sep 22, 2010 09:07 PM
Sorry, beg to differ.Respect your opinion IR music has no regional bias He need not have composed for Telegu,Kannada,Malayalam going by your argument
Re: Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by nitu krishnan on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM
I didnt mean that he stuck strictly to TFI...I just meant He was happy to do films that were offered to him....and was not so despo to enter BW...
Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by Akbar Basha on Sep 21, 2010 11:16 PM
Thank you very much Nitu Krishnan for the excellent and prefect write up!
One of the India's strengths is IlaiyaRaaja. Even IITs or IISc or Medical Advancements or Commercial Music are dependent on Developed Countries. Almost all other fields are depending on other countries like US, etc.,
At present only IlaiyaRaaja's music stands above all.
Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by nitu krishnan on Sep 21, 2010 11:52 PM
Media has created an illusion that people who always smile, who always praise others unnecessarily, who always nod their heads are humble and innocent...
Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by Aruna on Sep 23, 2010 11:18 PM
Ilayaraaja is the music king of Indian film music. Nobody can take it away from him. The so called composers and the oscar winners are yet to create songs that are etched in memory like Raaja. K Balachander the sinister director and Bharathiraja are nowhere now after having cunningly dethroned Raaja. Same is the story for Mani Ratnam. All these directors movies without Ilayraaja have suffered big time.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Self Respect or Arrogance
by nitu krishnan on Sep 24, 2010 10:31 AM
After parting ways with IR, KB joined maragathamani for "azhagan" and came up with a song "thathithom" similar to "padariyen padipariyen"..hoping maragathamani would get a national award...
Looks like this maestro has the world record, having scored the music for over 900 films in Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Hindi, Malayalam... even in Bengali and Oriya! Wow! It's a pity that he's still referred to as a South Indian composer.
I have listened to his songs from the 70's and 80's which were in a completely different league and way way ahead of its times. What's so unique about Ilayaraja is that he is a 'complete' composer. Amazing tunes, splendid orchestration and resonating, high-impact background scores. I was introduced to his music while studying in BITS Pilani in the late 80's. My journey started with his instrumental albums, 'Nothing but Wind' and 'How to Name It'? and boy, I was hooked. It's when I realized it's the same music direcyor who composed for Hindi classics like Sadma!
Many Hindi composers have made a living out of copying his hits (Anand Milind (dozens of films), Anu Malik (notably Virasat). Some even shamelessly used his background scores.
It's time this man, who was the 1st Asian to compose a symphony got due recognition from all quarters. He's a pride of India, not just of the South!
Re: World Record!
by SRIKUMAR on Sep 21, 2010 08:03 PM
Ratan, Nice to see your comment. He is pride of India. What to do he has less number of hindi films to his credit. Thats the reason media is calling him south indian music director. The tunes composed by him is beyond all these directions.
Re: Wonder how he became big when he cudn't make a hold in Bolly
by Sachin Nair on Sep 21, 2010 01:35 PM
Sorry to say - Bollywood music sucks. It might be superior in technical aspects, budget, marketing and such things. But when it comes to music, south indians have a much better taste and appreciate people with talents better than their north indian counterparts. FYI, still in the south, A R Rahman comes only next to Illaiyaraja.
Re: Re: Wonder how he became big when he cudn't make a hold in B
by shibu Chenthamarakshan on Sep 21, 2010 01:52 PM
I agree with you on your comments on bollywood music.It fail tos satisfy the common man's taste unlike the 70s 80s and 90s. And the comments on Rahman is your personal opinion only. If we are hearing hindi songs it is only bcoz of Rahman (or only of Rahman's).
Re: Re: Wonder how he became big when he cudn't make a hold in B
by PunjabiKiller on Sep 22, 2010 12:30 AM
Time to get out of India you lungi wearing 'divide and rule' wannabe Xtian Gora loving Nair faggot.
