undoubtedtly u are the god of music. listening 2 ur music is one the biggest satisfaction in this whole world.ARR is a great composer and even a geater human being,he definately has a god within him.I love u the most.
Re: The god of music
by a b on Oct 20, 2008 07:10 PM
Ilayaraja is probably the greatest composer in modern times. Rahman is a dwarf near him - he is a great Sound Engineer not a composer.
Re: The god of music
by Bharat Chhabra on Oct 20, 2008 09:44 PM
What is a 'sound engineer' a b? could you please explain? on the other note, if Ilayaraja is greatest why only a couple of his work were dubbed and release in hindi, on the other side- Not only Rahman's so many albums were released in hindi but also he has been part of so many international projects.
Re: The god of music
by Subienay Ganesh on Oct 20, 2008 10:12 PM
An album relasing in hindi is surely not a yardstick to judge a better composer ! Period. In other words, popular dosent mean better. While Rahman is the best among the lot, anybody who knows his music ( and has heard Ilayaraja) will most definitely swear by Ilayaraaja over Rahman any day.Rahmanis probably a "smarter" composer, and makes it to point to refrain from using "carnatic"based raagas in his hindi compositions, or rather simplifies than to suit "hindi" tastes, which probably explains his success in bollywood. Rahmans background scores are very poor compared with what Raja could dish out - very often, the background score would set the mood of the movie. Overall, it is ridiculous to compare really. But to go quote anold proverb- donkey's would'nt recognise the fragrance of camphor !!
Re: The god of music
by Bharat Chhabra on Oct 20, 2008 11:07 PM
I mentioned 'hindi' as an example. An album dubbed in any other language means that it merits to reach greater audience. If popular doesn't mean better; then what is 'better' cannot be judged by anybody either!
Regarding your point that he refrains from using carnatic music in his compositions, you sound like carnatic music is not popular with 'hindi' tastes. I can give you examples of carnatic raagas being used in some popular compositions right from the era of K. L. Sehgal. For background music, again you dont really have a basis. And please refrain from using such offensive quotes as unless you prove ur point, it may hold good for you as well.
P.S - If it is ridiculous to compare then please dont, topic wasnt started by either of us and nobody forced us to post.
Re: Re: The god of music
by Nehru Mantri on Oct 28, 2008 11:04 AM
You must be stuck in a time warp along with IR. Rahman goes to the core of basic sounds and all his compositions are experiments in sound and the evocative experience of those sounds. Hence he participates also as a listener and not a mere composer. IR followed a bandwagon of composers in his time who composed per formula. While some of IR's are to be cherished one should not forget the utter crap he also dished out. I have not seen another music director bring about consistently divergent patois and meld it almost seamless as ARR. To prove his point was the unplugged vocals SP, Hari, KK, Sujatha etc gave with just the hint of piano in the background to prove that he just does not need the Orchestra but he has also proved what he can do given one.
Re: The god of music
by viswa on Oct 20, 2008 07:49 PM
Good old times, eh? Grow up people! Time is going in a fast forward manner. If Ilayaraja IS the best, then why Maniratnam jumped for Rahman. Just show me one music piece by ilayaraja which can match ARR magic in bombay theme music? Ilayaraja WAS a phenominen in tamil music. But ARR IS and will be a phenominen in the world music. You see- World does not end in Tamil nadu!
Re: The god of music
by Venkateshwaran on Oct 21, 2008 03:11 PM
You are talking about world music? It is a pity that people really don't know Illayaraja. He is the only Indian to have written symphony scores. Illayaraja is not popular in hindi film music, but is much appreciated in Europe, the home of western classical music and has worked extensilvely with symphony orchestras (Royal Philarmonic, Budapest orchestras) in Europe and is rated as one of the best composers in western classical music. That he is not know and appreciated in Hindi is your loss, not the world's! Rehaman is good, but please do not compare him with Illayaraja. Even Rehaman himself wouldn't appreciate it.
Re: The god of music
by Vijay ramanathan on Oct 21, 2008 12:07 AM
Thalapathy's music..I ve not heard another master piece anywhere in india, and many others which are better than Bombay...ARR is gr8, but a little below Illaya raja
Re: The god of music
by Nehru Mantri on Oct 28, 2008 10:37 AM
If you have listened to enough Hindi/kannada/Telugu/you will find the Thalapathi types. Probably it seems novel because it is in tamil. Still it is good. But ARR does a 360 which others wouldnt dare.
Re: The god of music
by Umesh on Oct 20, 2008 07:38 PM
Your right friend, ILLayaraja is always a KING and ace composere. Still we can enjoy his songs. Even ARR is good but can not be compared with Illayaraja.
Re: The god of music
by afroz khan on Oct 20, 2008 11:44 PM
but Illayaraja never experimented, he used only same musical instruments and the same singers only the tunes are different. he was actually scared to experiment with new music and singers. Thats the different between ARR. Now you there are lot of good and young singers.
Re: Re: The god of music
by Venkateshwaran K on Oct 21, 2008 03:23 PM
Afiroz, shows how ignorant you are. Illayaraja has experimented with music like nobody else. He has written counter points for classical indian melodies, used the bass guitar differently, writing counter points for the bass guitar (can you imagine that!). Ask any western music teacher about his chord progressions. I am sure they will have a lot to say. So, please do not talk about experimentation or the lack of it from Illayaraja. While Rehaman has only worked with Lloyd Webber, Illayaraja has worked with the Royal philarmonic orchetra and many more such groups. That should say something about this man!
Re: Re: The god of music
by Vijay ramanathan on Oct 21, 2008 12:11 AM
Illayaraja used original instruments and didnt go to modern technologies...And how the hell can u say that raja sir has not experimented...w'out experimenting u cannot score music for over 600 films...he had tried carnatic, western classical, folk(his forte) and even dapaankuthu...
Re: The god of music
by symbolofpeace on Oct 21, 2008 01:15 AM
I think you are not ready to accept the fact that even Illayaraja tried to do music like Rahman listen to Friends, did you forget Hey Ram? But he couldn't do it like Rahman. Rahman is unique in his own way and so is Illayaraja. Guys stop saying that only Illayaraja used pure Carnatic you should say this only if you know Carnatic, listen to Rahman's songs and they have a strong classical base. Illayaraja hardly did Hindustani based and always churned his comfortable melody and folk based which was then liked, then came AR who brought in new sound and revolutionized the music. WHY DOES YUVAN THE SON OF ILLAYARAJA MAKES MUSIC LIKE RAHMAN??????? WHY DOES KARTIKRAJA FAILS TO IMPRESS???
Re: The god of music
by John jeevinth on Oct 21, 2008 02:21 AM
here v go again.. y dont u guys just listen to the music and njoy it instead of fighting
At the age of 32, Rahman has already worked with internationally reputed artistes like Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Apache Indian, Zakir Hussain, Kunnakudi Vaidyanathan, Dominic Miller, L.Shankar, Kadri Gopalnath, Vikku Vinayakram, Ustad Sultan Khan and Pandit Vishwa Mohan Bhatt among many others. Rahman has in collaborations with artists such as L. Shankar, Zakir Hussain, David Byrne, Talvin Singh and Apache Indian - both recording and on tour. On a trip to India, David Byrne met Rahman and was so impressed that he went on to record some sessions with Rahman for a project he is currently completing (as yet unreleased).
He was an invited member of the jury of the prestigious music festival "Voice of Asia" competition held annually at Almaty, Kazhakstan. The jury comprises of top music composers of the world.
In October 1999, Rahman performed a song "Ekam Satyam" in a charity concert in Munich with Michael Jackson called "MJ and friends". The meeting between Rahman and Michael Jackson was arranged by Hindujas and Bharat Bala. Rahman and his troupe performed after Michael Jackson in the concert. Melodious strains of 'Satyameva Jayate' by Rahman provided the closing to the concert by pop king Michael Jackson.
Rahman lists among his favourites Naushad, R D Burman,S D Burman, Vishwanathan-Ramamoorthy, Illayaraja, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Carpenters, Carnatic, Rock and fusion.
He credits all his inspiration and success to Allah.
Earlier Non-film work- During his stint in advertising, he released his first album, of Muslim devotional songs, titled `Deen Isai Malai'. This was followed by `Set Me Free', an album of English songs which was the launch album of singer Malgudi Subha, by Magnasound, where Dileep set the songs to tune. Both the albums went unnoticed in the market.
Introducing new talents- Rahman is well known for introducing several unknown voices into the main stream playback.He has shown an extraordinary flair for experimenting with untrained voices. Singers who have worked with him have repeatedly said that Rahman's open approach during recording sessions has spurred them on to giving their best. Suresh Peters,Shahul Hameed, Srinivas, Shankar Mahadevan, Harini, Anupama,Dominique, Minmini, Shubha, Febi, Hema Sardesai are some of the singers who have thrived after the advent of Rahman. Singers like Hariharan, Sujatha, Unnimenon have had successful comebacks in the industry after working with Rahman. Unnikrishnan, Bombay Jayshree and Nithyashree Mahadevan who are successful Karnatak classical vocalists have been introduced into film playback by Rahman.
Re: Life of AR Rahman
by Vikram Sagar on Oct 21, 2008 05:31 AM
i had this honor of listening to 'set me free'... it was a ton of crap. please do not waste your money on that.
Re: Life of AR Rahman
by symbolofpeace on Oct 21, 2008 01:17 AM
did you forget Unni krishnan and Harini? Hariharan was given a break in film by AR himself.
Dileep's family embraced Islam following his father Shekhar's illness and passing away.His mother’s belief in spiritual healers grew stronger after his family went through a rough patch following his father’s death. Sufi saint Karimullah Shah Kadri changed their lives with his strong spiritual influence and that led to the conversion to Sufism. But it wasn’t an instantaneous decision — it took them 10 years to convert. Rahman feels that the change in religion was like washing away his past.
Rahman spent 5 years in advertising where he went on to compose more than 300 jingles. Rahman did a lot of popular ads like those for Parry's, Leo Coffee, Boost featuring Sachin Tendulkar and Kapil Dev, Titan, Premier Pressure Cooker, Hero Puch and Asian Paints. The jingles that he composed for the Leo Coffee ad starring Aravind Swamy and the Asian Paints ad directed by Rajeev Menon also won him awards and recognition. He also won an award for composing the theme music of the Madras Telugu Academy's Spirit of Unity Concerts.
Studio- Rahman started a small studio of his own in 1989 'Panchathan Record Inn' , attached to his house.This would later develop into one of India's most well equipped and advanced recording studios.In his established state of the art sound and recording studio he began experimenting in sound engineering, design and production. He also began a collection of sound samples, creating one of the most comprehensive sonic libraries in Asia.
Re: AR Rahman- The Turnaround
by june on Oct 20, 2008 11:27 PM
Please keep your religious ideas and opinions to yourself. If you like allah worship him but dont try to push your beliefs here. As far as I am concerned hindu gods are great as hindu religion is very tolerant to other religions but at the same time i dont mind others worshipping their gods. it is a personal thing and lets keep it that way . please dont spoil india's name by bringing religion as a boundary between people's heart
Re: AR Rahman- The Turnaround
by jahesh khan on Oct 21, 2008 02:19 PM
there is no muslim god or hindu god. there is only one god. god of all man kind. its very simply. and obey him wat he told us.thats all.nothing else. islam says that god. ie god of mankind ie god of hindus,christians,jews, muslims and all other things in the universe
Rahman was born A.S.Dileep Kumar on the 6th January 1966, in Madras, to a musically affluent family.His father R.K.Sekhar was an arranger and conductor in Malayalam movies and had worked under the likes of Salil Chowdhary and Devarajan.Dileep started learning the piano at the tender age of four.At the age of 9, his father passed away following a mysterious illness.The pressure of supporting his family fell on Dileep. At he age of 11, he joined Illaiyaraja's troupe as a keyboard player. It was his mother Kareema Begum who encouraged him to follow in his father's footsteps. But all this had an adverse affect on his education. Infrequent attendance and an unaccommodative management forced him to shift schools from the prestigious Padma Seshadri Bal Bhavan to the Madras Christian College and finally he dropped out of school altogether.
Don't you all agree that he made it big in tamil films first. You remember the songs sometimes because of lyrics also. Those lyrics were of vairamuthu... kanduondein, Rhythm.. songs all classics of ARR written by one and only one vairamuthu. Today the fire is not there because they do not work together. Lyrics is very important for a song to be hit.
Re: AR Rahman -- His lyricists
by upekshit hai on Oct 20, 2008 05:45 PM
in Hindi it is gulzar sahab..ARR-Gulzar combo is fabulous.music and lyrics complement each other a lot..
Re: muslim convert
by upekshit hai on Oct 20, 2008 05:16 PM
He was ill at age of 8,Sufi saint cured him and he converted them..a poor family..his father also expired very early. there is nothing wrong in it..and u fool.. listen to his music..and do not bring religion in music..music itself is path to God..He strongly believes in Allmighty. and he has given us soulful bhajans like 'o palaanhaare'..'pal pal hai bhari'
