Seeing that govt.money is poured out in sending some fiery, heavy weight ministers and people for winning elections right from now, one can see how power hungry the present govt.and ruling party is for perpetuating itself in power at Delhi. One can be truly anxious whether in desperation even a war may be precipitated to divert attention away from failures and fiascoes.Statistics can be falsified, reports generated, all media bought into subjugation and total obedience and such other desperate things. Frightening precedents of interfering, destroying, changing things wse have been following and taken from the world which also followed, and making life difficult, like DeMon, GST and numerous other pinpricks. But there are far too many things which can be disrupted under the name of REFORMS.Instead of learning, controlling and improving the systems that exist and served us for many years, the freshers are showing off by such "reforms". All true, honest, non-communal, non-biased reforms that will not harm are most welcome. Alas, we never know!
Recently a New Zealand writer Brian Godzone has written an article that spread like fire on social media which I will write in brief or summarize because of its size
Indians are Hobbesian (having culture of self interest.) India does not only tolerate corrupt, but worship them and to know why we have to look at patterns
Religion is transactional in India. Indians gives gold, cash, food in anticipation for out of turn reward at religious places. babas, guru, peer, Sufis are first step towards give and take culture hence corruption does not look bad for Indians.
He said when European and Englishmen came to India, they build modern institutions and system, whereas majority of Indians who went abroad have taken their feudal society in a modern society,
Indians believe if we can offer the almighty money and gifts at religious places, so there is nothing wrong in giving to corrupt beaurocrats.
He said corrupt jayalalitha went to jail and made a comeback, such scenario is impossible or unthinkable in western society.
Re: Indians are born corrupt
by Sameer Shaikh on Mar 01, 2018 04:15 PM
Second, Indian moral authority towards corruption is visible in its history. Capture of cities and kingdoms after guards were paid to open the gates and commander paid to surrender. Nizam took money to send his army. An invader who captured India bought kings easily. Mughals vanished Maratha and Rajput with bribes.
Last Indians do not believe in theory that all can rise if each of them behaves morally because it is not the message of the faith. Caste system separates them. The division of mind and inequality due to suppression and corrupt society in India taken a short route through corruption. From start Indian mind is calibrated for give and take to do their work because their forefathers have done bribery.
Hence corruption is in the DNA of Indians. From religion to customs like marriage where sister in law hides shoes to extract money from her sister husband to offering brides in exchange for dowry.
This was from a New Zealand writer Brian Godzone whom I agree. Indians are born corrupt and cheaters and also agree with Lee who said had majority of Indians were in place of Chinese (75% (opposite), Singapore would have been a morally corrupt society. This is why western democracy is a hoax in India which western media projects is as heavenly condition which is against the values of Indian culture.
Re: Re: Indians are born corrupt
by J Swaminathan on Mar 01, 2018 04:34 PM
Very much true. Corruption is not an issue at all. It is accepted as the way of powerful and rich. Trickery and deceit are legitimate tools in life. IT is considered as smart acts or rather use of brain. Congress lost because BJP could sucessfully create fear in the mind of individual people about the loss of their wealth to congress politicians.
Scams, embezzlement, frauds,bluffs/lies, murders, rapes, gau-lynchings, false and whipped up self pride in wrong things/values are common here.If these happened in the past, it was logical and right to hold police, RBI, ED, CBI, NIA,and concerned Central/State Ministers responsible for answers and for punishments. Nothing good happened,of course, except some TRP/news sensation. That was when these ministers/bosses were actually involved or responsible for those things. Past 4 years axre different. Everything is thought of or not thought of, but done,every decision/ direction/ policy is given,- be it world visits, publicity splashes, history re-write, beef ban, patriotism/nationalism tests, disruption of any and all established systems of administration - with faults/loopholes or no - by just one person. Ministers and all are actively pursuing sycophancy of nauseatingly lowest kind. In such a situation, why waste energy whacking our brains to pin some babu for such things? It is time for opening our eyes and doing the right thing.
Scams, embezzlement, frauds,bluffs/lies, murders, rapes, gau-lynchings, false and whipped up self pride in wrong things/values are common here.If these happened in the past, it was logical and right to hold police, RBI, ED, CBI, NIA,and concerned Central/State Ministers responsible for answers and for punishments. Nothing good happened,of course, except some TRP/news sensation. That was when these ministers/bosses were actually involved or responsible for those things. Past 4 years axre different. Everything is thought of or not thought of, but done,every decision/ direction/ policy is given,- be it world visits, publicity splashes, history re-write, beef ban, patriotism/nationalism tests, disruption of any and all established systems of administration - with faults/loopholes or no - by just one person. Ministers and all are actively pursuing sycophancy of nauseatingly lowest kind. In such a situation, why waste energy whacking our brains to pin some babu for such things? It is time for opening our eyes and doing the right thing.
has become unbearable. Worse, it was elected because the earlier govt was bad and was seen to be licking the Mzlms in the name of secularism.. What does a common man do now. Aage kuan peeche khayi.
Re: THIS GOVT
by KRISHNA KUMAR on Mar 01, 2018 03:52 PM
Home Ministry is sleeping and very casual manner, particularly on immigration matters and it seems that there must be further corruption at their end. Very sad, the culprits are escaping from India with hard earned money of citizens.
Re: Re: THIS GOVT
by jaswinder chabbra on Mar 01, 2018 06:22 PM
Not about me alone... Country's back has been broken. People have lost lively hoods. And there seems to be no respite from this foolish, clueless govt.
Re: Re: THIS GOVT
by KRISHNA KUMAR on Mar 01, 2018 06:41 PM
Money in Banks are people, whoever it may be, you and me are not question here. You know bankers are refusing to give loans to agriculture or salaried people asking number of documents, evidences and people are being levied by various high service charges etc. That's enough to say. Am I correct? You may please update your bank pass book, might be imposed annual charges, cheque book charges, sms charges, minimum balance charges, where we don't have time to monitor. Silently banks are doing such things to fill their gaps.
Re: Re: THIS GOVT
by KRISHNA KUMAR on Mar 01, 2018 06:43 PM
Money in Banks are people, whoever it may be, you and me are not question here. You know bankers are refusing to give loans to agriculture or salaried people asking number of documents, evidences and people are being levied by various high service charges etc. That's enough to say. Am I correct? You may please update your bank pass book, might be imposed annual charges, cheque book charges, sms charges, minimum balance charges, where we don't have time to monitor. Silently banks are doing such things to fill their gaps.
Re: Re: THIS GOVT
by KRISHNA KUMAR on Mar 01, 2018 06:43 PM
Money in Banks are people, whoever it may be, you and me are not question here. You know bankers are refusing to give loans to agriculture or salaried people asking number of documents, evidences and people are being levied by various high service charges etc. That's enough to say. Am I correct? You may please update your bank pass book, might be imposed annual charges, cheque book charges, sms charges, minimum balance charges, where we don't have time to monitor. Silently banks are doing such things to fill their gaps.
Such huge scams involving thousands of crores cannot take place unless there is political facilitation. The ED, CBI, Finance Minister etc all have to immediately identify the small/big politicians involved along with credible proof. These too have to be jailed along with wilful defaulters and bank officials. Credibility of our PM is at stake otherwise. Not many will trust him if this is not done. And fast....
Re: Political nexus.....
by IndiaRising on Mar 01, 2018 03:41 PM
They are already at it ... targeting all opposition leaders and it seems BJP leaders were given clean chit by BJP itself
Re: Political nexus.....
by KRISHNA KUMAR on Mar 01, 2018 03:53 PM
Home Ministry is sleeping particularly on immigration matter and it seems that there must be further corruption at their end. Very sad, the culprits are escaping from india with hard earned money of citizens.
Re: BIASED VIEVES
by IndiaRising on Mar 01, 2018 03:41 PM
People started feeling that the media in the country needs to be more professional in their approach. Their role should be bringing out news items that are worth reporting; bringing out inequalities in the society; highlight issues affecting law and order; highlighting availability of basic amenities for leading a decent living for the citizen of the country, etc. These are the issues that matters any nation and reporting on these would make the administration wake up and rectify the problems. However, we find that many news channels, these days, indulge in unethical journalism. Many of them are found to be biased; report only half-baked information, which leads to ambiguity and crucify a particular section of society. There is then alleged misreporting; giving misleading information, etc. I guess there should be some control over such unethical activities as these are likely to adversely affect the nation. All those news channels, that come up with half-baked information or indulge in misreporting or giving out misleading information or indulging in unethical journalism, must be held accountable for their acts.
Re: Scams
by jaswinder chabbra on Mar 01, 2018 03:45 PM
This govt is unbearable. But it was elected because the earlier govt was corrupt and seen to be licking Mzlms in the name of secularism. What does a common man do now ? Aage kuan peeche khayi....
Re: Respect PM of our country
by ss it on Mar 02, 2018 05:25 PM
your man not respecting the opposition then why the people like us should respect him... atelast we all had voted for ache din....
