Re: Interesting
by Krishna Bhat on Jun 16, 2012 11:28 AM
The raw material came from Tamil Nadu. It doesn't mean that the whole pillar was constructed in Tamil Nadu. Just like all the diamonds came from Andhra.
Except few Dravidian culture or tradition(some are too barbaric).....India never had any culture of its own...most are brought in by invaders....even indian language is brought in by Moghuls...hindi and urdu is derivative of farsi and sanskirt came to india from middle east...many sects living in northern india has their roots in euro region...as north was invaded by all ppl in world from greeks...moghuls...portugese ..spanish...french ...british...so in India we can see all skin colors are talents...mixed culture....
Re: India
by indiarocks on Jun 12, 2012 11:06 PM
Reading your message your character seem can be associated with an ignorant, hypocrite and traitor. You don't deserve to write or say anything about India. You seem to be paid puppet of pseudo-seculars.
Re: Re: India
by Vishnu Bhagwat on Jun 13, 2012 01:27 AM
be strong enough to accept the facts & truth. Don't start frustating, what was history you can't change it.
Re: India
by Shri Hegde on Jun 13, 2012 07:30 AM
Seems like a ignorant, west educated/mislead person. Please go and read Proof of global Vedic culture book and know your roots (that is if you think you are an Indian)
Re: Re: India
by Connan on Jun 14, 2012 06:22 PM
Vedic culture is a import from central Asia. The Iranian Avesta and our vedas share a lot. having said that Hindi was not brought by the moguls Hindi was the language before the Moguls came to India. urdu was a derivative of local Hindi and Persian spoken by common people during the mogul times.
Re: Re: Re: India
by Krishna Bhat on Jun 16, 2012 11:33 AM
If you say that Vedic culture is an import from Central Asia, then how do you explain that almost all the places in Vedic literature are in India? Also, all the sacred places such as Ganga, Yamuna, Sarasvati are in India.
Re: India
by Batao Na on Jun 13, 2012 10:17 AM
Ignorence is Bliss , Hindi is now 1000 years old as first Hindi Inscriptions written by Sarhanpa are of 900AD and Hindi is derrived from Prakrit and Sanskrit. This site also has Prakrit Inscriptions thus proving that this whole Dravidian devide is colonialist creation.,
Re: Re: India
by Kiran on Jun 13, 2012 10:45 AM
That could be disputed or debatable history. But the current form of the spoken language suggests that it has heavy persian-arabic influence, atleast to people based in south india whose languages are more influenced by sanskrit than any norht indian language. Even for a simple word like akaash you guys use the word asmaan (which is not a sanskrit word, even the ending for the word akaash may not be sanskrit based).
Re: India
by Krishna Bhat on Jun 16, 2012 11:31 AM
Then how do you explain that there is no genetic evidence of a Dravidian race or culture? Also, the Vedas contain remarkable poetry and insight. Also, prior to the Sangam age, there is no record of any culture in the south except the neolithic.
their many more epic's that r written tamil thousands of yrs that u can't find other language's ,Thirukural...the man wo follows ,2 line poems 2 infinty crores meanings will be great gift to this world no book in india will be equivalent to this book , those follows this guide line will lead good human life.
Re: tamil isvery reach in literature
by Krishna Bhat on Jun 16, 2012 11:34 AM
Same way there are great epics in Sanskrit like the Mahabharata which are not found in any other language.
Re: Re: tamil isvery reach in literature
by rajatk on Jun 17, 2012 12:37 PM
mahabharata imaginanery story, u can find epics in tamil too,thirkural is truly based real facts on human life
For me, a person born in Tiruppur near Kodumanal, it gives me goose bumps to read this article, to know that my ancestors could have lived, worked or atleast visited this place. As a big time history and archealogy buff myself, I have keenly followed the excavations in Indus, Dhwaraka, and Adaichanallur with great interest. But this great piece of history being so close to my birthplace is just amazing. I thank Dr.Rajan and his team for their great work.
Re: Re: Goose bumps
by Krishna Bhat on Jun 16, 2012 11:35 AM
History is a continous process of learning. You must be prepared to ditch preconceived notions and be receptive to new ideas if you want to progress.
All are Aryans in this country. Euro-centric thinkers wanted to get a control over the Hindu population, and hence divided it based on color. This was just one of the tactics to make themselves look superior. One can find the darkest of darks in UP and fairest of fair in TN. Classic Example is Mayawathi and Jayalalitha.. so don't crib about who is an aryan or dravidan. Let us be proud that the vedic people had an industrial estate along with many other things...
Re: There are no aryan or dravidan
by amritha chaithanya on Jun 12, 2012 10:46 PM
Dude whom you are preaching?Its scientifically proved - on DNA analysis and gene code-where the whites in north to europeans and the some tamilians genes to the first ancient man-who migrated from the congo insland in africa-and they are the first decendents here..proofs are there ,you can study!
Re: Re: There are no aryan or dravidan
by talk cool on Jun 12, 2012 11:05 PM
actually it is scientifically proven that there is no difference between North Indian DNA to South Indian DNA. Don't distort.
Re: Re: There are no aryan or dravidan
by Sriram Veeraraghavan on Jun 13, 2012 10:28 AM
Amritha, Aryan - dravidian is another ploy by the Brits to divide and rule. It has been well established that there is no diference in the DNA across the country.
Re: Re: There are no aryan or dravidan
by Krishna Bhat on Jun 16, 2012 11:37 AM
It is also proved through DNA that the northerners were native to India and not to Central Asia as claimed earlier.
It's a systematic neglect of Great Tamil History in Industan..mostly sponsored by Brahminic Aryans who donot want dravidians to look in to their past glory and learn from it...They will destroy everything in the name of new development except to keep ramayana or mahabarata..which took place somewhere outside current India...Poor dravidians should wake up now..
Re: Aryans donot want tamils to know their history.
by Satheesh Angamuthu on Jun 12, 2012 10:34 PM
Yes Friend..You are right..Tamil culture has the history of over 20000 years..but unfortunately we don't have much evidence..Aryans are not actually from India...
Re: Aryans donot want tamils to know their history.
by Unmai Vilambi on Jun 12, 2012 11:28 PM
I agree that there are lots of Brahmins who are caste minded, and they tend to promote Sanskrit over Tamil. But their caste mentality is not any more than the casteism followed by non-brahmin upper caste Tamilians. Non-Brahmin Tamils have no right to point fingers at Brahmin caste mentality, until they give up their caste pride and consider themselves to be just a Tamilian.
I don't agree with your opinion that Brahmins have suppressed Tamil culture:
The first person to discover the Kodumanal site, Mr.V.N.Srinivasa Desikan, was a brahmin. Dr.Srinivasa Sastri, a key figure in 'Thani Tamil Iyakkam' was a Brahmin, born to a Sankrit Pandit. He fell in love with Tamil after learning the richness of Tamil, and its ancient history. He even translated his Sanskrit name to Tamil, as Parithimaar kalaingjar. The person whom we fondly call as 'Tamil Thatha', Dr.U.V.Swaminatha Iyer, is a Tamil Brahmin. Dr.Iravatham Mahadevan, an Indologist par excellence, a Tamil Brahmin, was the first to propose that the people of Indus Valley spoke Tamil.
I can go on...
So, it is not fair to brand all Brahmins as suppressors of Tamil Language and Culture.
Re: Re: Aryans donot want tamils to know their history.
by mohan on Jun 13, 2012 01:44 AM
good post. but slight distortion - Iravatham Sir should have said 'proto Dravidian' and not Tamil as a possible language in indus valley civilization. Historical proofs say so. Proto Dravidian is the root of all Dravidian languages including Tamil. Please read linguistic histories.
Re: Aryans donot want tamils to know their history.
by saran gandhi on Jun 13, 2012 07:21 AM
Seriously?? Once in a lifetime rediff comes up with something worthwhile, which we managed to make it into a Aryans Vs Dravidian thing, and when we got bored of that, made it into a Caste issue. We, tamils, do not deserve to be treated better than wat we are, coz....we just never learn!
Re: Aryans donot want tamils to know their history.
by Sri on Jun 13, 2012 07:37 AM
i am brahmin from madras and was born here and lived here and this is my home and life. still you having this jadi veri. i have learnt to celebrate the various difference in the people of our great land. i wish you also do the same.. love all
Re: always interesting to know such facts
by Ramesh M on Jun 12, 2012 08:26 PM
i mean...such findings and analysis are always good to read and hear..typo up there
What does the writer want to say in this article? Why pain my eyes? Such things are discovered every where.It is polished for being in Tamilnadu. Rediff is getting on my nerves.
Re: this article
by Ramesh M on Jun 12, 2012 08:23 PM
Getting on your nerves? Open your browser and type in another websites name...you dont have an obligation to read the article. You are talking as if you are being FORCED to read this article.
