Looks like the author's is doing the dirty work on behalf of Aviation ministry for privtising. First Mr. Prafool Patel sabotaged from inside by killing profitable routes, second AI started acquiring close Rs 800 cr worth airplanes, now citing the Pilots strike want to privatise the airline, in otherwors the Rs800Cr planes will be gifted to either Mallya OR Ambani OR Kon Kiska.
What is the difference between A. Raja's scam an now the current idea? I see no difference in terms of how the cover is being pulled over everybody's eyes and facilitate looting under cloak and dagger.
Barring US, all nations have their national carriers with govt stake in it and run by pvt management. Why it works nicely at Air France, BA but at AI. Because every babu joker and minister wants to show their power on airlines by misusing it which will cost several crores.
Example, Deve Gowda travelle to Egypt with 74 family members in a pvt plane.
Balaram Jakkar arived 3 hours late for a flight departing to London and the flight was held for 3 hours.
Re: Re: Is this the first step....
by Remani Kumar on Apr 29, 2011 07:06 PM
What is the problem of foot soldiers if the commanders / generals can't devise a plan properly?
You can't punish Airhostess for serving bad food rather it is the supplier and management that is kept on using same supplier.
Likewise, the pilots fly their air-craft, they don't set the routes OR decide the fare.
The management on its part is penalizing the workers for asking pay parity citing the loss. the loss is incurred becoz of the mgmt incompetence.
American Airlines, United Airlines did similar rubbish. They asked everybody to do "SACRIFICE", i.e., 20 - 30 % pay cuts and forego bonuses to save $100 million dollars, once the pilots and air-hostess unions agreed for 30% pay cut, the executives paid themselves $35 million bonuses; Since this is a pvt airline, the unions took immediate action and the CEO resigned and the bonuses had to be paid back.
Re: Re: Re: Is this the first step....
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 07:11 PM
But why can't a air hostess smile when she does her job? Why can't maintenance engineers get the aircraft ready on time? The workers have a typical PSU mindset: indolent and indifferent. They are just as much to blame as the management.
Re: Re: Re: Is this the first step....
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 06:58 PM
Many people are interested, because Air India has lucrative landing rights at Heathrow and New York.
Re: Is this the first step....
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 06:51 PM
There was a time when Air India claimed that it could not serve its passengers properly as their aircraft were too old and they did not have enough aircraft. Now they say that the new aircraft are a burden!
However, Air India can easily turn around if it ensures safety, punctuality and service. By service, I do not mean that anyone should behave like a slave. Air Indis staff should do their job with a smile and look after the legitimate needs of their passengers.
There is no point in saying that profitable routes were taken away from Air India. Can you name a few? Air India can always resume flights on these routes, now that Mr Praful Patel is no longer the civil aviation minister.
Every Ministry needs enterprises so that they can run them like their fiefdom/kingdom. They are the kings of these enterprises appointing people at their will also for making money running them. What will a Railways minister do if Indian railways are privatised. What will a Aviation minister do if Air Indian is closed. What will coal ministry do if coal mines are privatised.
It it because they get real power or rather spoils of power. So the Central governments keep these enterprises running though they gobble up tax payers money as if it is nobody's Business.
Re: Re: Blunder mistake!
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 06:45 PM
"Blunder mistake" is used to indicate great or serious mistake. If you live in Bihar, you will know the meaning of this.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Blunder mistake!
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 06:53 PM
In Bihar, these are called "blunder mistakes"! Hope you have learned something new.
Air india and indian airlines both have over the past many years since thier inception have only bleeded red.They have only consumed public money. It is surprising that public money is wasted on such a sector that does not require Govt managment and which is not a sector where poor of the country are served. I as a citizen of India demand that Govt should withdraw out of this sector and stop spending on a sector meant for the rich and upper class ( a middle class men will fly by Goindigo but not by Air India due to high rates) So its High time Govt Acts ...
Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on aviation
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 06:40 PM
Don't be so sure. If government withdraws from the airline business, the private airlines will fleece the passsngers. Also, what will happen to the job security of the poor ailine employees?
Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on aviation
by pooja wadhwani on Apr 29, 2011 06:45 PM
IN A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA THEY ARE PAID 50 LACS PER ANNUM
STILL THEY ARE POOR ??THEN WHO IS WELL TO DO IN THIS COUNTRY
Re: Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on aviation
by Anonymous on Apr 29, 2011 06:58 PM
rightly said...even after getting 50 lakhs per annum these buggers are not satisfied!!! AI should be privatized!!!
Re: Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on aviation
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 06:54 PM
Not just pilots, maintenance engineers are also paid that much. However, that is becuase aviation is an international business. Air India staff should be paid on the same level as staff of other foreign airlines. Also, in these days of inflation, what is Rs 50 lakhs?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on avia
by pooja wadhwani on Apr 29, 2011 06:59 PM
IN THESE DAYS OF INFLATION AS PER GOVT OF INDIA ANY BODY EARNING MORE THAN 2 LACS PER ANNUM WELL PAID MORE THAN 5LACS HE IS HADSOMELY PAID MORE THAN 10 LACS HE IS REACH
NOW IT'S 50 LACS ..STILL YOU HAVE GROOSE OF BEING UNDER PAID
THEN PLEASE ASK THEM TO JOIN POLITICS ..THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET BILLION FOR DOING NOTHING
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on
by Prem Mohan on Apr 29, 2011 07:00 PM
Since you corrected me, I will also correct you. You should write "rich" and not "reach". Also, it should be "grouse" and not "groose".
Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on aviation
by vipin mehrotra on Apr 29, 2011 06:54 PM
Lo poor airlines employee? Those who work will get jpb and those whp strike on drop of had will be booted
Re: Re: Re: Our hard earned money should not be spend on aviation
by pooja wadhwani on Apr 29, 2011 07:09 PM
u R right ! i saw all spelling mistakes after submitting .. my sincere apology to Prem
I liked reading what you have regarding Air India's staggering debt and mounting losses.
The government can not in this day and age be foolish enough to run a business that is milking the tax payers and keeping a few folks flying at our expense.
But who would want to buy such and old worn-out cart?
Better to let the Maharaja rest in peace and scatter the ashes in every nook and corner of the country.
It will be a nice way to publically flog all the Marxists/Communists/Socialists who still pontificate such putrid gas in a democracy.
Re: Shonalee Biswas
by vipin mehrotra on Apr 29, 2011 06:56 PM
Well Said.After all when govt took over the properties of Maharajas it did not bother for their employees so be it for last Maharaja in India leaving only one Maharani
Air Travel is not a sector where much govt activities is required but to make balance in Air Travel Industry a Lean & Thin Air India with Inland service and some lucrative profitable sector only be chosen. No of Aircrafts should be reduced. Only core activities should be handled by Air India and rest like backoffice work, ground handling, engineering dept & accounting etc; should be out sourced or separated to different company with majority participation of pvt sector. No Peon, house keeping staff in the Office. Pilots & Cabin crew should be on contractual basis. This is only required in AIR INDIA and India need. Not a mamoth with huge debt is required. Govt should spend money in development of Air Infra at new and less lucrative places.
