With Air India out, politicians will have no airline to wait on them. They will have to find a way to bully private airlines.
It is time to make it clear to politicians that they are there to serve the public. Not the other way round. Not bully airlines for free rides for themselves and their families at the expense of the taxpayer. CAG should do a probe into how Air India got into its financial mess.
Re: No Air India? What will the politicians, babus do
by pravin sarode on May 01, 2011 08:29 PM
they will break the winds and on that winds we will travel from mumbai to kolkatta and chennai ok sir
Mr patel is stopping airlines of busy route and allowing to go in non profit route.Air india is used basically by politicians at whim and her daughter as well. Air India has better timing and better positioned lest our politicians and board consider it. When all airline gaining why Air India is losing. Relive praful patel
Re: lock out - and sell to the Private Airlines
by raghu kulkarni on May 01, 2011 04:35 PM
wish it was so simple dost, imagine 10000 plus people with their families instantly on road.
whatever their demand is its fully justified...mp and mla draw huge amount of salary for doing corruption...so whats the problem in paying those who really work for company...further so many ministers and their p.a. and their family members and their relatives and their etc etc fly for free... nobody pays for that...suspending flights on green slots and making way for jet and kingfisher is the policy of govt..not of pilots....
Re: pilots...
by raghu kulkarni on May 01, 2011 04:40 PM
in short, mps, mla's and pilots are of same nature. best interest of the country is to get rid of these expensive creatures as early as possible.
Re: pilots...
by anand van on May 01, 2011 01:24 PM
Air India is loss making company and it is the tax payers who is paying the pilot,it is highly overstaffed and is a burden on tax payers....so it should be sold out so pilot and its staff can get salary for their great work
Re: Merging
by anand van on May 01, 2011 01:29 PM
Why does government want to run an airlines anyway....,instead of funding the loss making airlines money can be better used..
There is no doubt that former Civil Aviation Minister was never in favour of turning around Air India. He perhaps felt that Government had no business in being in the business of airlines. He was clearly in favour of privatisation. But resented the employees attitude. The IAS Mafia did not want Air India to be privatised as they would lose their free-junkets. And Naresh Goyal hated Air India, as it was an irritant. Vijay Mallya was not bothered if Air India succeeded or failed. He was clear that Government should not be in the business of Air Transport. Why will Air India succeed, when everybody wants it to fail. And now it has Rs.40,000 crores of accumulated losses. And Finance Minister does not plan to bail out Air India.
Re: Air India was destroyed by Praful Patel and Naresh Goyal
by Suresh B on May 01, 2011 03:05 PM
absolutely right. for many years pramod mahajan and sharad pawar routed their ill gotten money into Jet through Tailwinds- the holding company of jet registered in cayman. finally when the heat got too much they laundered the ownership of tailwainds. naresh goyal was just a travel agent who could not then and even now run anything let alone an airline. praful patel and pramod mahajan's brief was to use their position to kill indian airlines and when they got international licenses to kill air india. the merger was planned to create an unmanageable organisation with dofferent cultures and values and thus plant the weed to kill air india. lets not forget that indian airlines were the amongst the first to get a320 and their egnineers have/had temendous experience in maintaining these aircrafts. to run 15 year old aircrafts with such relatively little down time and with the level of safety they have done despite the civil aviation ministry interference is a tremendous achievement, ITs fashionable to criticise public sector without understanding its problems. BSNL is the next one being killed by Bharti.
Re: Air India was destroyed by Praful Patel and Naresh Goyal
by Suresh B on May 01, 2011 03:05 PM
absolutely right. for many years pramod mahajan and sharad pawar routed their ill gotten money into Jet through Tailwinds- the holding company of jet registered in cayman. finally when the heat got too much they laundered the ownership of tailwainds. naresh goyal was just a travel agent who could not then and even now run anything let alone an airline. praful patel and pramod mahajan's brief was to use their position to kill indian airlines and when they got international licenses to kill air india. the merger was planned to create an unmanageable organisation with dofferent cultures and values and thus plant the weed to kill air india. lets not forget that indian airlines were the amongst the first to get a320 and their egnineers have/had temendous experience in maintaining these aircrafts. to run 15 year old aircrafts with such relatively little down time and with the level of safety they have done despite the civil aviation ministry interference is a tremendous achievement, ITs fashionable to criticise public sector without understanding its problems. BSNL is the next one being killed by Bharti.
Re: Air India was destroyed by Praful Patel and Naresh Goyal
by Pat Thakur on May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
USE THE 40,000 CRORES FROM PUTTPARTHI. AS IT IS, ALL WOLVES ARE PLANNIGN TO GULP THAT AMOUNT. BETTER USE IT TO BRING AIR INDIA BACK ON TRACK A BIT.
There is no doubt that former Civil Aviation Minister was never in favour of turning around Air India. He perhaps felt that Government had no business in being in the business of airlines. He was clearly in favour of privatisation. But resented the employees attitude. The IAS Mafia did not want Air India to be privatised as they would lose their free-junkets. And Naresh Goyal hated Air India, as it was an irritant. Vijay Mallya was not bothered if Air India succeeded or failed. He was clear that Government should not be in the business of Air Transport. Why will Air India succeed, when everybody wants it to fail. And now it has Rs.40,000 crores of accumulated losses. And Finance Minister does not plan to bail out Air India.
Re: bakvas
by Forum Guy on May 01, 2011 12:46 AM
Give us detailed points as to why she was making bakwas... idiot with less than a pea sized brain!!! And dont give the reason its pride of India.. thats a load of bull crap!!
There isnothing wrong with AI and the pilots, The real problem is with government which has mismanaged it.As former director of AI I know how much government misused it and made a mess ofits appointments. Even merger of IA and AI was uncalled for and we are paying for it. Pilots have legitimate grievane but the Government's HRD is worst. It is a pity that we are destroying an institution which India was proud of.
Re: air india
by Manoj M on Apr 30, 2011 10:06 PM
Dude, I am not sure what mess the goverment has done, but let me assure you that every passenger who has travelled by Air India, hates the staff. Whatever, mistakes the goverment has done cannot be worse than the performance of the staff. I wish the company I work for gives me unlimited access to the products they make. You people have bled the airline dry. I would actually call myself a supporter of the fact that a goverment airline should exist, else the private cartels would make the lives of civilians miserable. However, after dealing with Air India, I would prefer that the airline is closed down & the money spent in educating school children in Bihar or improve local train services in different cities or improve sanitation, etc. Let Jet, Indigo, etc take care of aviation. We dont need the taxpayer money spent on these useless employees
Re: Re: air india
by narinder singh on May 01, 2011 01:21 PM
it is absurd to blame performance when you have designed that it shouldnot perform. Government appointed timeservers who took no interest in professiopnal functioning but passed time enjoying luxry abd perks which airline offered. No one from professional sector had been given achance to reform it and stream line it. This airline did perform better in the past and earned profit as well as had name for tradition of luxury serviceWho created discriminatonb of one pilot getting higher sallary while anaother gets lower doing the same jobtend to forget the history and judge on symptomatic analysis. sure way to kill the patient. Go undefr the surface and understand
Re: air india
by Manoj M on Apr 30, 2011 10:07 PM
I would actually call myself a supporter of the fact that a goverment airline should exist, else the private cartels would make the lives of civilians miserable. However, after dealing with Air India, I would prefer that the airline is closed down & the money spent in educating school children in Bihar or improve local train services in different cities or improve sanitation, etc. Let Jet, Indigo, etc take care of aviation. We dont need the taxpayer money spent on these useless employees
Re: Re: air india
by Bhupinder Singh on May 01, 2011 07:33 AM
i stopped flying airindia,,preferto sit on horse, onwer aremost friedly and profeesional than airhostress,why,,wholeminister admi chamchaa,,,s
There is a saying in Gujarati, Jano Raja Vepari, ani Praja Bhikhari. This is perfectly True in India. Indira Gandhi nationalised each and every industry and let the country to Bankrupcy with Nehru Socialism. Look at the difference now after opening up the Industry to general public. AND SO, all govt business organisations have to be given away to the public to manage. Take for Example, GOVT=BOAC in England, now BA, doing a much better job privately. Govts Job is to rule and not do business. Govt has to work in the interest of public safety and well being. This can help in reducing corruption as well nick
Re: Air India & Govt Public Sectors.
by slurrpy octopus on Apr 30, 2011 09:27 PM
look at the private banks in india they just cant keep pace with the service. and how the private banks in the west went bankrupt :-)
Re: Re: Air India & Govt Public Sectors.
by Forum Guy on May 01, 2011 12:50 AM
Ofcourse you cannot let private sector go haywire.. there needs to be checks and balances. However that doesnt mean making everything govt. sector as that would increase burden on the govt. and lead to mismanagement, corruption. Its quite clear that it is what happened with Air India
