Simple Point. Peoples livelihood should be place on top of industrialization. Their life MUST not be placed on stake on sake of building industries. After all they are our people, not refugees from other countries.
No one can justify this, one side we are facing deficiency in Agricultural productivity and governements are Spending lakhs of Crore Rs for developing unfertile land into fertile, other side they allow industrialist to aquire fertile lands. WHY INDUSTRIES CAN'T BE DEVELOPED ON UNFERTILE LANDS? WHY GOVERNMENT THINKS ABOUT THE PROSPERITY OF RICH PEOPLE ONLY?? Mr Manmohan Singh, Kindly think about the future, from where we will get the food if you allow to aquire agricultural land for setting up industries / residence on them??? think Mrs Soniya Gandhi think......
Re: Why fertile Lands for industries?????
by Chenthil Natarajan on Jun 06, 2010 05:03 PM
WHY INDUSTRIES CAN'T BE DEVELOPED ON UNFERTILE LANDS - Because for Ex POSCO needs such a fertile place to dig minerals to prepare steel. They can't do it on infertile lands. You think they are waiting more over 5 years for that land to just give jobs to people? :-)
Dudes in government should understand that per capita agricultural land in India is very low (1060 sq meters)which cannot meet one man's annual needs.It is criminal act to convert fertile land for filling coffers of greedy businessmen.We dont need cars first.We need food first.When will people understand this? There is so much waste land in India(43%).Like in Kuchh,western Rajasthan and several States.Why GOI doesn't invite Israel and USA to convert this land into industrial zones? Have Indians lost their mind? What we are trying to achieve ? A non agricultural economy in India? By raising land prices, ROI on agriculture has gone down to peanuts thus discouraging people to do farming anymore( Return: Rs 10000/acre valued at Rs 5 lacs) and sell land and migrate to cities.Very very dangerous situation.India should slow down its growth rate and out of that too fifty percent should come from agriculture, 1 % from manufacturing and rest from services.India should import manufactured items and secure its agrobase carefully.This will ensure environment protection too.Stop putting water guzzling and power guzzling industry and rather import that stuff.Power is cheap in South Africa,Holland and so many countries.Let goods be manufactured there and imported. What is meaning of globalisation? Man Mohan thinks globalisation means let MNCs enter and plunder India.That is what his government is doing.It is reverse globalization from Indian point of view.The cold facts are crying out.
In the first place Government must not evict people from their home, hearth, agricultural lands, for seting up Industries. Governent must not act as the Agents for the Investors to forcibly evict people, who are incidentally weak, poor and defenceless. Instead Government sould identify Government Land/Forest Land free from settlement of Landless poor villagers, and develop such plots for setting up of Industries. These Plots should be developed and auctioned in the open market and alloted to the highest Bidder, for setting up of approvd Industry. 50% of the mney so collected must be spent exclusively in the area development including drinking water supply, education and health. Further,Government must stop indiscriminate minng projects such as POSCO,Vedant, Mittal, Jindal, etc as these mega-mining projects have mega downsides adversely impacting the ecology,environment, agriculture, climate,water supply, etc all further affecting the living condition of the poor people in Mining areas and making them poorer. Such ant-poor policy of the Government is responsible for the wide spread unrest in the Mining districts which are also the poorest districts of the Country. Is this ( to rob the poor to appease the Investors) the Inclusive Growth policy of the Country???
In Greater Noida, Noida Police arrested more then 300 Farmers they are protesting for thier land. GT Noida Athorty is taking land from farmers you must knowing circel rate of Noida. 10,000 SQFT take from farmer on 7 lacs. they sell 1000 sqft on 20 lac .. such big diffrence bigger thing is they not willing to leave abadi land to farmers to make a house. This land belongs to me my faher and my grand father who hell they to sell it to Big builders. evrybody know JP group they have secter 120 to 140 more then 500 acre land they making big money we are protesting we are getting lathi charge. this nothing but the direct property dealing from Goverment. This is another reason of naxsalties are incresing in sates.. farmers failed to do another job we lost him. We are continue to losing fatmers then what will we eat one day ??? and it is not everyones cup of tea to do a farmering job why they do a simple thing give a land in place of land in some other area. or go there we have lot of unagriculture land also make an industrial area there... Ask us how can we have good quality Wheat and Sugar we can tell how to produce.. but we very bad in other job, simple becasue we do not have experience of other then farming
Re: Greater Noida land acquisition
by SHANTANU KARMAKAR on Jun 06, 2010 01:48 PM
GN and Noida area are governed by the real estate and politician nexus. The builders are just making money in hand with the politicians.
The political activities after independance is slowly killing the patriotism. Tribals cannot stay in forests, leave alone Rishis. Upper castes should not possess agricultural land and their traditional profession they should not practice. Development for whom. Anyway it is good that a man's life span is shortened to 100 years. If the government makes a law that those who are aged above 100 years should leave India since the land is for younger generation....
Government should constitute team of experts including agricultural scientists, civil rights activists, and economists to aquire barren lands scattered across all states in India instead of centralizing in couple of selected states.
SEZ acquisition is making only politicians, RDO and MRO officials become rich with their knowledge of prior acquisition details without regard to fertile lands.
There should also be some patnership given for the land owners. Concentration of SEZ in couple of states in specific regions is creating the scarcity of resources and exploitation of regions with no justice regionally with local development.
While acquiring land, SEZ should have laws specifying the purpose for which lands are being acquired. If acquiring for industries or IT hubs but using to do real estate business should be prevented.
Re: Constitute Experts Group for SEZ Acquisitions
by Veja Biral on Jun 06, 2010 10:27 AM
well said buddy.... industralisation is not desired in cost of agriculture, actually agriculture is backbone of our economy and industralisation is lead forward to take up our nation to next higher level. So we must plan well before going for much industralisation.
India should be like china - where the govt owns ALL land and leases to its citizens!! That way - everyone wins and medieval century fantasists like Arundhati Roy and Medha patkar would be extinct
Re: Like China
by hotz on Jun 06, 2010 01:28 AM
@six sigma are you living in platform?If you own a property you will know its value.Many of the lands which the government takes is prime agricultural land.People in cities only think of the food available in supermarket but not the back breaking and little rewarding work like agriculture.Even china faces very stiff resistance for land acquisition from farmers.Indians are emotional people and land is a part of their life.They want agricultural land so its easy to dump effluents in the river,use irrigation water and escape if something goes wrong.Why cant government develop unarable land for these industrial purposes?Its not as unviable or difficult as you think.This is one thing we can learn from our friend Israel..
Re: Like China
by Praveen kumar on Jun 06, 2010 01:47 AM
dude, you are a 21st century fantasist - it is now a well acknowledged fact that the Chinese model is a spectacular failure, so much so China's economic progress is being described as a 'Great Leap Backwards'. China has paid a heavy price to achieve this so called 'progres' - it is a environmental disaster zone. In fact, China is today the world's worst polluter, it's rivers are full of toxic wastes, farmers are deserting agriculture to work in sweat shops that manufacture cheap consumer goods for US & European markets. Our Indian friends buy these cheap,poor quality Chinese products in America & take it back to India to "show -off" the imported stuff to their friends & relatives. How funny !
Re: Re: Like China
by kinks on Jun 06, 2010 04:50 PM
@Praveen kumar Do you know any processor, chip, hard disc which are basic components of a computer, or any camera, camcoder manufactured solely in India? If not from US, we directly import it from China and cell it here in India.
