Pleade do not oppose development. Yes, try and ensure a better deal for the farmers and the workers - but please do not oppose the project starightaway. Because, if we lose the project, the farmers or workers will not have any deal at all!
Some of these people opposed Nano Project at Singur, which resulted in untold miseries in the lives of those who looked forward to livelihoods centring this project. So, do these people really care for India or the Indians?
Ms_Roy has got it wrong. Government of India distributes free electricity to farmers. Low cost housing to several folks under EWS & LIG Schemes, Low cost finance to SMEs, Very high subsidy to Defence forces, Subsidised lands to millions others. Does it mean that it will be democratic for us " to walk into these places" without permission? Answer is No. Same way, logic of walking into an SEZ without pass or approval doesnt make any sense. So much common sense for being an IAS. Ms_Roy herself was staying in government subsidized bunglows during her civil service days. Am sure nobody was allowed to freely park himself/herself in her bunglow during that period
Re: identity crisis
by DilipVishnu maydeo on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM
The schemes for farmers are on paper only.Actually they dont get anything and if they get it they have to forgo their liberty to vote for any party.As for the SEZ the beneficiaries get every thing as agreed upon.This is not progress.It is progress of a few at cost of many.This is surely not democracy and it can be proved mathematically and precisely.Its a hoax with coalitions and voting of around 50% in an ignorant electorate there is no science in it.We want science in every feild why not politics and electon.Ask the experts they will say all democratic pocessess are rigged.Ha Ha Joke
Re: identity crisis
by DilipVishnu maydeo on Oct 17, 2009 10:03 PM
The schemes for farmers are on paper only.Actually they dont get anything and if they get it they have to forgo their liberty to vote for any party.As for the SEZ the beneficiaries get every thing as agreed upon.This is not progress.It is progress of a few at cost of many.This is surely not democracy and it can be proved mathematically and precisely.Its a hoax with coalitions and voting of around 50% in an ignorant electorate there is no science in it.We want science in every feild why not politics and electon.Ask the experts they will say all democratic pocessess are rigged.Ha Ha Joke
Re: identity crisis
by DilipVishnu maydeo on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM
The schemes for farmers are on paper only.Actually they dont get anything and if they get it they have to forgo their liberty to vote for any party.As for the SEZ the beneficiaries get every thing as agreed upon.This is not progress.It is progress of a few at cost of many.This is surely not democracy and it can be proved mathematically and precisely.Its a hoax with coalitions and voting of around 50% in an ignorant electorate there is no science in it.We want science in every feild why not politics and electon.Ask the experts they will say all democratic pocessess are rigged.Ha Ha Joke
Re: identity crisis
by DilipVishnu maydeo on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM
The schemes for farmers are on paper only.Actually they dont get anything and if they get it they have to forgo their liberty to vote for any party.As for the SEZ the beneficiaries get every thing as agreed upon.This is not progress.It is progress of a few at cost of many.This is surely not democracy and it can be proved mathematically and precisely.Its a hoax with coalitions and voting of around 50% in an ignorant electorate there is no science in it.We want science in every feild why not politics and electon.Ask the experts they will say all democratic pocessess are rigged.Ha Ha Joke
Re: identity crisis
by DilipVishnu maydeo on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM
The schemes for farmers are on paper only.Actually they dont get anything and if they get it they have to forgo their liberty to vote for any party.As for the SEZ the beneficiaries get every thing as agreed upon.This is not progress.It is progress of a few at cost of many.This is surely not democracy and it can be proved mathematically and precisely.Its a hoax with coalitions and voting of around 50% in an ignorant electorate there is no science in it.We want science in every feild why not politics and electon.Ask the experts they will say all democratic pocessess are rigged.Ha Ha Joke
As part of its economic reforms and policy of opening to the world, between 1980 and 1984 China established special economic zones (SEZs) in Shantou, Shenzhen, and Zhuhai in Guangdong Province and Xiamen in Fujian Province and designated the entire island province of Hainan a special economic zone.
In 1984 China opened 14 other coastal cities to overseas investment (listed north to south): Dalian, Qinhuangdao, Tianjin, Yantai, Qingdao, Lianyungang, Nantong, Shanghai, Ningbo, Wenzhou, Fuzhou, Guangzhou, Zhanjiang, and Beihai.
Then, beginning in 1985, the central government expanded the coastal area by establishing the following open economic zones (listed north to south): Liaodong Peninsula, Hebei Province (which surrounds Beijing and Tianjin), Shandong Peninsula, Yangtze River Delta, Xiamen-Zhangzhou-Quanzhou Triangle in southern Fujian Province, Pearl River Delta, and Guangxi.
In 1990 the Chinese government decided to open the Pudong New Zone in Shanghai to overseas investment, as well as more cities in the Yangzi River Valley.
Since 1992 the State Council has opened a number of border cities and all the capital cities of inland provinces and autonomous regions.
In addition, 15 free-trade zones, 32 state-level economic and technological development zones, and 53 new and high-tech industrial development zones have been established in large and medium-sized cities. As a result, a multilevel diversified pattern of opening and integrating coastal areas with river,
Re: China has more than 100 SEZs not two
by Zeppel on Oct 17, 2009 08:50 PM
Way to go. Very informative. Wish Ms Roy gets time to read this. Why do people in high places get so casual and talk nonsense while presenting facts. May be they think we believe every thing or may be they think we do not check. She said TWO SEZs. From what you said, they are over 50.
Re: raj- wrong judgement on kara
by Budha on Oct 16, 2009 12:02 AM
Guru, can you please make your post sans those underscores , your posts are interesting but tough to read cos of the underscores. Thanks.
But is her problem simply boils down to the fact that she needs entry to a SEZ without a pass. Or is that she wants a pass that is not issued by a Buerocrat ?
Either way , If she has some deep rooted hatred towards the buerocracy, (may be for purely personal reasons - chucked out of IAS or she left it herself whatever ), she may have to fight her own battles in her own turf somewhere else . There is no need to involve rest of the county and instigate this kind of rebellious rhetoric.
Does she have sligghtest comprehension of what 'Fascism' is? Reminds me Lalu yadav calling all others 'fascists' during elections.
If India is 10% as fascist as she claimed, she and people like her would have been in a dark dunzeon like prison at an undisclosed location for life by now. She should be thankful to the luxury she enjoys in a free society and start making good use of her intellect and dedication to real upliftment of people rather than being a bully and oppose every thing that she doesn't like personally.
And wow.. now this is good. Elections inside SEZs. Thats just one thing we desperately need in SEZs - Netas. It is like bringing a contagious disease inside a prestine sanctuary.
Re: Whats her problem?
by Atanu Chatterjee on Oct 16, 2009 01:15 PM
By getting these kind of arguments, these people are ensuring poor to remain poor for anther century. Apparently they fight for poor, but they know they dont exist if poor dont exist, they wont allow poor people to join the employed, educated class so easily. You are right that they have a vested interest here to make a base for their political career.
