Thease are fraud people who want to tarnish software engineer's name .. Software engineers never need to do such tricks to ger a H1B since they are highly sought after and they add value to US economy .. The proof is that software engineers from india are all over the world , US , JApan , Korea , Singapore , Middle east , EU , canada ... There are engineers from other field like mechanical or civil and other trades people doing such cheap tricks just to go to america .. The government should be strict and identify such people and put them behind bars ......... If these people go to US and make money , after coming back to india they will bost like ' i don't have that much education and see , i wet to US and made money as much as an IT guy ' .. It is our responsibility that such fraud will not happen which will seriously damage the image of indian's in IT industry working in US
The H1B visa scheme has led to enormous frauds, exploitation of skilled workers and underpayment. In spite of this, we Indians are beggars and hundreds still want to go to US by this route. The Media says that India is booming and becoming a Superpower- why then do these people still want to go to the West
Re: H1B Visa fraud
by C M on Mar 13, 2009 09:21 PM
Exploring is natural. Some prefer to be big fish in Small pond, some prefer to be small fish to be in big pond.There is nothing called begging . H1B visa is just a immigration tool Many countrys have Work visa they mgith have differnt names. Some americans work in Ind on work visa too. Many Amreicans work in middle east on work visa of those countries. SO its called EXPLORING. and belive me or now its an adventure. Like all adventures it does have risk associate with it. India surely booming. Media is wrong if they are saying anything abt Superpower. Indian ppl are very emotional.So its very easy to create mountain of mole and vice versa.Even todays so called Superpower also has many dents. Superpower is just a word of last century. This century its Global Power. And if one nation wants to be Global power it definately needs other nations along with it. Superpower sounds more isolated term ..thing of last century....
Re: H1B Visa fraud
by Milind Desai on Mar 13, 2009 06:37 PM
The answer is in your question... The media says India is becoming a superpower. The common man thinks that is bull crap. So these people go to the west...
I had thought India was a couple of generations behind US but after seeing US, I have realized that India will NEVER catch up...
Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits took o
by raj arora on Mar 13, 2009 12:39 PM
well said at all this gyan about how we were a rich country bla bla ,bet u give that sameer one western visa and he will take his bag and flee at the drop of a hat lol
Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits to
by K Srinivasan on Mar 13, 2009 12:48 PM
Just cos you WHite manns aassslickin .. Diickheads like it better in the west doesnt mean all indians have a US visa dream..
Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brit
by raj arora on Mar 13, 2009 12:51 PM
hey srinivas go check the us embassy the whole india is waitin outside lol
Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits took o
by Dileep Kumar on Mar 13, 2009 12:39 PM
Just cant take the story since Samsher Rana took pride in Hindu India.
Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits to
by A T on Mar 13, 2009 12:41 PM
STOP BLOODY BHASHANS you fool WORK WORK WORK and learn some CIVIC SENSE
Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brit
by raj arora on Mar 13, 2009 12:43 PM
lol well said AT all talks these guys give about bow grt india is bla bla ,fact is the lines to the us aussie uk immigration are still fulll with people waitin to flee
Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brit
by uday shankar on Mar 13, 2009 12:46 PM
Whoever this AT is his language reflects his character.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the
by raj arora on Mar 13, 2009 12:48 PM
why uday ,just because he is talkin in hindi and why truth hurts is it
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before
by Subhash Chandra on Mar 13, 2009 01:01 PM
YOU ALSO NOW, FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE INFERIOR TO THE WHITE MAAN IN EVERY WAY ..
you belong to a cadre of people who are totally alienated from their native roots. People who draw their inspiration from a foreign religion.
Who draw sustenance from an alien culture. People who look down upon their Indian ancestry, Indian heritage.
People who despise their hiindoo brothers and their hiindoo past.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before
by uday shankar on Mar 13, 2009 12:55 PM
He can give his views and is welcome to do so. But the language. That reveals the character and let him not advice others about bashans.
Remember India was the only country looted so badly and where religion is exploited even today.
Rana gave his views. Just read and forget. Thats how it has to be.
Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits took o
by jedi boss on Mar 13, 2009 12:45 PM
Yes, also look at Korea today. They were nothing in 1947. Even Thailand & Malaysia have surged miles ahead in terms of development & quality of life. Whereas in India 0.1% of population gobble up 90% of taxpayers' money. Unless the whole system is overhauled we will be like this only.
Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits took over,
by Guest on Mar 13, 2009 12:48 PM
From 1750(or whenever you refer too) we done what you doing now. Why cant you compete rather to Winne. Its to every indian I have met in my life(including me for a while).
Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits took o
by Subhash Chandra on Mar 13, 2009 12:58 PM
Conquering India militarily is out of the question. India is too mighty a power to be taken lightly.
So the next best way is to subvert it by creating a cadre of people who are totally alienated from their native roots. People who draw their inspiration from a foreign religion. Who draw sustenance from an alien culture. People who look down upon their Indian ancestry, Indian heritage. People who despise their hiindu past.
When huge sections of the population are thus converted, national interests take a backseat. The converted population draws inspiration from their overseas mentors. This in turn, enables their handlers abroad to rule the country by proxy, exploit its assets and enrich their own countries, coffers and populations.
Huge resources are being pumped into India by the western powers to achieve this end. The Tehelka Weekly in its February 2004 issue has published a detailed investigative report about this conspiracy. The report has identified the sources from where the funds are sent, the fifth columnists working in this country, the strategy of this war like conspiracy against India.
It is shameful, but true that this international conspiracy against India is succeeding. According to The Tehelka report, around 5000 Indians are getting converted to Christianity every day. The North east of the country is almost Christianised. An Italian Roman Catholic, Antonia Maino, a.k.a Sonia Gandhi, is running the country by proxy through a weak kneed hiinduus
Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits to
by A T on Mar 13, 2009 01:01 PM
लो एक और conspiracy theories गया !
अगर भाषण देने से सब कुछ ठीक हो जाता तो क्या बात थी ................. यही राना और उदय अपनी घर के बहार कूड़ा फेंकते होंगे और कही भी खुले में मूत कर लेते होंगे .............. सारे शहर तो कूड़ा घर बना रखा है
Re: Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brit
by Subhash Chandra on Mar 13, 2009 01:03 PM
YOU ALSO NOW, FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE INFERIOR TO THE WHITE MAAN IN EVERY WAY ..
you belong to a cadre of people who are totally alienated from their native roots. People who draw their inspiration from a foreign religion.
Who draw sustenance from an alien culture. People who look down upon their Indian ancestry, Indian heritage.
People who despise their hiindoo brothers and their hiindoo past.
Re: Re: Re: A little over 200 years ago, just before the Brits to
by rajeev r on Mar 13, 2009 01:07 PM
Absolutely right. The status of the poor people is being misused. In AP alone, thousands of hindus are being converted daily. God Save India. The money pumped for Missionary activities and Madarassas is more than the FDI every year. But due to vote bank politics, nobody is interested in these things. Just check the number of churches come up in AP in last 10 years it's nearly 1 lakh.
There were many such visa scams in the 90s when the US had even blacklisted certain Indian cities and universities as far as I understand.
It is obvious that such scams exist because the attraction to go to US is too high.
We Indians have to think why this happens why cant we get all that the US has to offer here ?
Why are our cities filled with slums and garbage ? Why do we have so much corruption ? Why do we have so much pollution and destruction of environment ?
And finally why our leaders and people cannot build a clean , green beautiful country called India and why are we looking at other countries like US for good life ???
Forget talking about such scams people will try anything for a good life which this country has not been able to offer as yet.
Far greater frauds exist in Russian,Mexican,Chinese migration to US.
Re: What is this article about ?
by Abb Consultant on Mar 13, 2009 12:28 PM
i agree with you... but lots of educated people use to breaks law. i have seen couple of techies who smok in train & breaks traffic rule etc. so first of all we have teach our self.
Re: What is this article about ?
by A T on Mar 13, 2009 12:28 PM
IN America as you go out of NYC , small towns and little metros actually GET BETTER and prettier with schools and all facilities all around.
WHILE in india as you move away from delhi you get
1. Dirties cities 2. Pathetic local citizens who dump all around 3. Even more pathetic police 4. Local GOONDAS. 5. Narrow minded casteist people.
Just tell me which city in india is livable for HUMANS, not herds of animals packed together living in FILTH.
Re: Re: What is this article about ?
by jedi boss on Mar 13, 2009 12:39 PM
Therefore, we should resort to empty bhashans and blogs. Any attempt to do anything worthwhile (by sheer hard work & enterprise) is futile in India because the system doesn't allow you to do so. Hard work does pay, in few isolated locations & companies. Generally, in India, it is very difficult to get things done smoothly.
Re: Re: What is this article about ?
by raj arora on Mar 13, 2009 12:41 PM
well said AT ,i heard of india shinin ,visited bombay and people spittin honking peein on the streets ,its a mess
grant HIB visa only to IIM people, I am proud of them . 9 out of 10 IIMite starts therir own rather than becoming slave of others. I am also doing same
Re: IIM are best
by SG on Mar 13, 2009 12:13 PM
9/10 starts their own business?? do they?? u must be kidding, i think its 1/100...and that's a big story in India.
Re: IIM are best
by Prasad on Mar 13, 2009 12:40 PM
Never seen any such IIM wretch start his own business. He can work only in a multi-national company but put him in a grocery store and he will be a total failure. Only can suck out hard-earned money belonging to other peeople!!
Re: IIM are best
by jedi boss on Mar 13, 2009 12:25 PM
what business did you start? dabba service / exam coaching service / interior decoration service / ... ??? there are other people far more competent than IIM grads in any business. period.
why not experienced indian techies stay at home make startups with innovative products and market them to the western countries.why always depend on h1b visas .isit lack of self confidence.
Re: techies
by Nikhil Shetty on Mar 13, 2009 12:07 PM
because the indian system stifles innovation, looks down upon risk-takers, and suffers from unnecessary govt interference.
Re: techies
by SSSSS on Mar 13, 2009 12:04 PM
Opportunities sir... India lacks it. You should understand the bureaucracy here. With small amount of money, but huge ideas, I am next to nowhere. So I had also planned to immigrate to US, work and learn there and then return to India to contribute back. Recession spoilt my ideas anyways. Indians (most of them) understand free lunch. We dont like to take risk. But its not the same in other countries (especially the developed nations). As an old saying goes, its always easy to tell, difficult to follow. Narayan Murthy or Premji had right opportunity. These days even with excellent ideas (ideas are exhausting everyday in this world of IT), its not as easy as you think.
Re: Re: techies
by rahul on Mar 13, 2009 12:07 PM
i think u should be a professor of philosophy rather than a techie...as it is u dont sound like a techie but a looser for life giving excuses
Re: techies
by m m on Mar 13, 2009 12:23 PM
Of course...opportunities galore abroad and they value your contributions and hard work. . To set up a business and run it successfully in India, nothing works without bribing. Right from your consultant to your own accountant to auditor, everyone make a big hole in your pocket in the name of 'out-of-pocket expenses', taking bribes from you in the name of others as well for themselves. Can you imagine how frustrating it is? Even if you want to be clean and law abiding citizen, we are not allowed to be one. That does not mean other countries it does not exist. Even if it exists it does not affect a common man or small time business man who would like to have a peaceful life. You get a more developed infrastructure, non-intrusive self disciplined people in those countries for your contributions to their exchequers whereas here it is all gobbled up by the corrupt system. Would you like to be part of a shining galaxy or like to get sucked into a black hole???
Re: Re: techies
by chintan jhunjhunwala on Mar 13, 2009 12:40 PM
what about the black hole created by the financial meltdown and all the cooked books and the skeletons tumbling out of the cupboards.those ceos fattening themselves with million dollar perks at the expense of the hard earned money of their customers.is that ethical.it is a mirage to say there is no money for innovation or start ups or ther are no opportunities in india. think you are blinded by the west and think they are all doing business ethically which everyone knows is far from the truth.
Re: Re: Re: techies
by m m on Mar 13, 2009 01:13 PM
"cooked books and the skeletons tumbling out of the cupboards" are there every where! Look at the recent high profile scam that is on the news highlights of media everyday. I did not say that 'there is no money for innovation for start ups or there are no opportunities in india'. I was talking only about the governance system and the cronies working around it, that sucks your hard earned money for no fault of yours even when you want to be a clean and law abiding citizen. You need not be blind to accept the West but surely yes to accept these so called ethics in our country that you are vouching for!
come on guys USA cant stand on its own manpower,in a very short period things are going to be normal and easier for all the qualified techies, US will soon realise the importance of allowing atleast indians to work in their country, Americans can never beat indian workers @ any category,
