Living in India sucks if you step to the west. You can't even go to another state to work without facing discrimination and having to go through all the polictical problems that come with it. Politicians encourage violence based on religion and other stupid reasons. You have to bribe your way through for each and every single thing you need to do. What shining India and "super power" we are talking about? It's nothing but a big sham.
Don't give those stupid lectures of "mother India" when no one cares about people in "mother India". Time to use your talents and skills in a country that will appreciate it.
Ever since I left India, life has been comfortable, people treat me like a human being and not like a some low caste or low qualified guy. People appreciate you for your charecter and what you can do here. Respect - ever heard of that word in India? Of course, we hear it everyday. Ever seen it??? Yes, you have to suck up to your HOD, to the traffic police, to the tax officier, to every idiot who can boss you. Save it. No more.
This country will never improve even if it can. If there is one person who wants to improve it, there will be 10 more people who want to keep it rotting. Well, who cares....let's migrate to another country who really will appreciate what we can do. And I found that place. Peace of mind ever
So wake up and start looking at your country critically. The glory days of India are over if ever there was one... unless you are a politician or a millionair
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by ethnic cleanser on Mar 13, 2009 05:35 PM
Thanks to the Gandhi's ,This is what they really care for India.
Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big s
by Loan Shark on Mar 13, 2009 08:11 PM
congress has provided the leadership that BJP failed to.
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by kavitha on Mar 13, 2009 05:24 PM
mayawathi will be next PM of india. She will bring more glory to india without uttering one word of englih.
Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big s
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 05:35 PM
The same people that ruined the country at the state level are now going to lead the nation.
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by Calspadeaspade on Mar 13, 2009 06:33 PM
What is swrong with CM becoming PM?. What was Manmohan? He did not even win election. What was Bush or Reagon before they became Presidents? They were governers. Were they not?
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by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 06:43 PM
Difference is, Bush and Reagen didn't ruin their state, get in through bribery and can be challenged at court by any citizen without fear of death threats or having to bribe his way through.
They have their faults...but if you want the lesser of 200 evils, you know which country to look at.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' non
by C M on Mar 13, 2009 08:40 PM
Are you that naive really..?? Bush screwed US so badly...Bribary is part of every country.(I am not saying So ind should also do it). And for ur info. In USA Presidents, Ex Presidents, VPs and Ex VPs are not chanllanged in court for all the matters. eg. Bush, Cheny will never be tried in court for goutamaula so called enemy combatant stuff...
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by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 05:49 PM
Gandhi or no Gandhi - life for normal Indians simply suck.
We are all slum dogs... not millionaires. That movie brought the real India to the front. And the real Indians came out when they were offended by it since they can't look at the hard truths about their country. As long as you keep cheering them and saying nonsense like "we will become super power in 2020" and "we are better than china" and "Pakistan will collapse" (stuff we have been saying for decades BTW).
Well, don't wait for India to shine. It will never happen unless there is real change. But if you can progress...go for it. Don't care two hoots what the government or other people tell you to do about your life.
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by Amit Tripathy on Mar 13, 2009 06:53 PM
why can't u nri's just behave the same way u do over there.like being courteous to people,not demeaning your kind , understanding problems and respecting others ,.I mean i know plenty of nri's who come back , throw attitudes as though you have achieved everythng and people back here backwards.ok letme tell you people over here do make the same /in fact more kind of money you make(seems for most nri's that was the only diffrentiation).We also enjoy our lifestyles and we also have have our share of problems.most of the NRI's would be very courteous to every waiter ( just as an example) over there , wouldnt think twice before humiliating one in india (saala tip lega).U c the problem is that u still are stuck in the gutter mentality u believe u left behind.And this generation really dont care about govt or what other people say( like u mentioned) and those other people include NRIs like you.so dude come down . for most of us u are a zombie with a super inflated ego without any substance
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' non
by Manoj K on Mar 13, 2009 07:07 PM
Definitely many people in india specially ministers, politicians, babus make a lot of money. Other means of making money is dalali like what Amar Singh do. If you want to make money by hard work then probably you can meet you end needs and suffering at every step every day.
No one is here to argue with anyone or give free advise. If you refuse to see mirror evenafter showing then its your choice. Whatever money you are earning by legal/illegal mean or have a lot of money, you will stay in similar pollutted environment, use the same potholed road and expose yourself to same kind of unwanted risks. Its your choice to stay there and not improve anything.
Indians are so dependent on NRIs that they requested one NRI , Mahatma Gandhi to lead freedom struggle. Many other leaders in freedom struggle were NRIs at some time in their life.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' non
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 07:05 PM
It's the Indian mindset...not an NRI mindset...
I value human life and do not want to treat anyone like that.
In the US, a waiter, mechanic, plumber, doctor, engineer - are all treated the same. All have to wait in the queue, all have to pay the same fine for crossing the red light.
I hope people in India, whether NRIs or locals treat others the same way too.
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by C M on Mar 13, 2009 08:49 PM
Have u heard of dillusion...??? Your views are so biased. Somewhere u wrote abt Clinton ..USA Ppl were angry becoz he lied not becoz his extra marital afair. To be honest ppl didnt give shitt abt anything. He still got reelected. The same US ppl got Bush relected (he also lied abt WMD)...again honesty is a relative term. How many years u living in USA. I am not debating where one should live. Its everyones personal choice. If u had bad experiences in one country ..You are also responsible for that at some extent. Why didnt u fight then..?? Stop telling ppl where they shoud migrate and why...Its evryones choice.
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by Calspadeaspade on Mar 13, 2009 06:36 PM
You have a point. But many are happy in India also. I am glad you get to be there. Let some population move out of India . It is good for India.
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by chandru on Mar 16, 2009 08:56 PM
Hmmm. Let's see if this party continues post Great Depression 2. But whatever you told about India is true. We resident Indians accept and regret for all your complaints. But your praises for USA are in its dying days. Beware of Great depression 2 and plan your future accordingly.
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by guest on Mar 13, 2009 07:29 PM
In response to your last message to me: I understand! Too bad that I am unable to convince you in favor of joining our orgnaization at a time when what India needs most is people like you. I am sure you would be very useful in our noble cause of making India get rid of all the filth that it currently has. I am disappointed that India/our orgn has missed on a good opportunity! But hey, if you ever feel like, our doors are always open. Good luck!
Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big sham
by Lal Popat on Mar 13, 2009 05:46 PM
Dude if the economy turns south in the US then racism will increase 10 folds (just like Russia). No one will respect you (or other Indians for that matter) then in the US.
Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsense. Big s
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 05:54 PM
so how is that so different from India where there is racism and castism virtually in every city (forget at the state level).
I've been in the US, plenty of cities. If you give respect, you get respect. Be nice and you people are nice to you. It doesn't matter which nationality you are. I interact with people of various origins. Not that there are no exceptions. There are...but frankly, that is just an exception.
People hype racism in US so much because they can't give a hard look against themselves. A Keralite, Tamilian, Northie... you name it; the discrimination is so blatant! Had enough of it.
By the way, till now, I have never ever faced a single incident of racism or racist comment (against the law by the way and you can take them to court. No need to go to ATM to bribe police or lawyer and verdict will come in its due time...not ten years).
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by Manoj K on Mar 13, 2009 06:10 PM
Ten years for verdict! You must be joking. This time frame may be for rich and powerful but for ordinary citizens its infinity or till you are dead. Judiciary and law & order are jokes in india. This country is full of nonsense and id1ot. At every step, you will find them. If you talk sense then you are doomed.
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by k v on Mar 13, 2009 06:32 PM
Look at India, ton of cases pending in courts but that does;t stops judges from going on summer vacations. specially when most of them work only 2-3 hours a day.
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by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 06:37 PM
It's time to stop believing and trusting in your country when it is ruled by the biggest idiots you can think of. Time to believe and trust in only yourself and look for the good of yourself and family and people who are close to you.
Now elections will come. You think ANYTHING will change???? Different parties will come and go...but the same story will continue. If you are not dishonest, tricky, and deceptive, you can never get anywhere in India. Honesty is never appreciated (and is even seen as a weakness contrary to what our school text books taught us).
Till every human life is considered precious in this country, don't give two hoots about it. Right now, the only human life that is of value is
In order of importance:
1. Politician & his cronies 2. Rich 3. Religion 4. Caste 5. Everyone else is crap.
Just take a look at all the religious fighting and other riots in the country and you will see politicians actually supporting them.
When was the last time you had a riot in the US?
1992 - L.A Riots. And big changes happened after that.
In India, same story, same white wash.
Save it.
Time to get a real life and stop sucking up to these idiotic government. Every year we see record taxes collection. But do you ever see ANY progress?
Government says less people are now Below Poverty Line. You know why??? Because they reduced the Poverty Line limit...HAHA...WHAT A JOKE! Reduce the poverty line limit and say there are less poor - Who do they think they are fooling?
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by sunil vishnani on Mar 13, 2009 06:33 PM
Thats Good you have so much love for America, americas care for your patriotic feeling they need people like you...BTW i hope that none of your genetics kind are left over in india an india dont need people like you and never ever return to this land as we dont want people of double standards like you..This Mother land has NO harsh feelings for you as no mother cas have for his child and dont worry she will embrace you even in your worst times but remeber dont turn back even when they will kick your ass..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsens
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 06:39 PM
Yes, I know India doesn't need people like me. Infact, I encourage all honest people who have spent time studying and working hard to look for greener pastures where you will be treated with respect and decency and rewarded for your handwork and sent to jail for bribery.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' non
by C M on Mar 13, 2009 08:36 PM
There are Two types of ppl when it comes to change system. Some stay within system and change it. Some leave system and try to change it from outside. Rest all just talk about it. About honesty its all relative term. Someone asked Warren buffet about honesty. He says its hard to answer. Things would be different if i had to feed 3, 4 kids and had no money at home...
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by Amit Tripathy on Mar 13, 2009 07:20 PM
ok there .let me tell you , discrimation exist everywhere and even us is not immune to it.It just that u believe we residing indians are not aware of it.you see i have nri's friends and relative . yes lots of them .like me most other people have them .so in the confines of realtionship many nri's experience come out.Its just that on public forum u beat ur chest out professing something else.spare me dude..... WE HAVE KNOWN.I am proud that i live the way I live.Ok yes if given an opp Ill work abroad but then I know people are same every where.So find ur definition of happiness and stop borrowing others.Seems u were a perfect loser back here and did something over there and now u want cry out aloud.Congrats buddy , but you still sound the same.....a loser
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by guest on Mar 13, 2009 06:43 PM
I understand ur frustrattion Himesh! After spending 4 yrs in US (Study and work), I decided to go back to my mother land for good in 2007, only to realize that living a life in India is impossible, you can exist though. Anyways, I got back and hooked up with some like minded people who want to change things. Right now we are scattered all over the globe and trying to get as many people on board as possible. you and others are more than welcome to join, go to bombax dot net.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsens
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 06:48 PM
All power to you guest! I wish honesty was rewarded in our country instead of punished. I tried to be honest all my life and fed up with it. I try to obey the law in every place...even at the red light of a traffic signal but people will start cursing and honking and even police will start shouting (even they have no qualms of jumping the light).
In starts at the basic level and shows at the highest - government.
We have all the brains. But unfortunately, absolutely ZERO respect for the law and human life.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' non
by guest on Mar 13, 2009 06:59 PM
True and that is why things have to change! coz if they don't there will not be any India left. Good for you that you are now leading a happy and comfortable life in US but dont u think u have some responsibility towards this adopted country of urs i.e America? If yes, then y not a bit of these feelings for your real motherland. Think of it as that your mother had to abandon u when u were born but that was out of some really strong compulsions(remember Kunti and Karna). Not only that, it turned out so much better for you, as you say it. Time to do something about the real mother of yours! Don't you agree?
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by hm on Mar 13, 2009 06:51 PM
I may not be agree with the whole you wrote. But I do agree that the law and order, the judiciary system is all shit. We have sleeping parliamentarians who let any bill passed without any debate. We have biased law and there is no single ray of change. The health care or the justice will remain same doesn't matter the stock sensex goes 8000 or 80000 no one has will to change the system to improve the living conditions for people living in India. You raise single voice about reservation for Sc or OBC and there will be train derail All over India. Few incidents have happened in the past that has touched our souls ie. the final justice in Jessica Lal case but that too was an exception and happened after 8-10 yrs time. Delay in justice is a kind of denial only.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' nonsens
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 06:58 PM
hm, I respect you for your honesty and the fact that you respectfully disagree.
I know many many people who suffered for being honest. I don't want my family or kids growing up in such an environment where honesty will ruin you.
There are challenges of growing else where (immorality is the biggest one). But they can be overcome as I have seen many families who are dedicated and sincere in upbringing their kids.
But what you cannot overcome is when the system treats you like an animal and forces you to bribe and sends you to jail and live under threats for being honest.
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by Amit Tripathy on Mar 13, 2009 07:07 PM
yeah clinton lied , with his posicle in lewinsky.LOL.and in that frame of mind made desicion concerning the entire world .way to guy
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't fall for this ''mother India'' non
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 07:13 PM
Guest, I agree with the gist of what you have said.
Infact, after I came here and the way I was treated (like a human being!), I have no words to explain how I take it upon myself to give back to this country by being honest (it is appreciated and rewarded).
I am still in touch with my roots. I fund charities for orphans so that they will recieve education and can make a life for themselves and given a choice, they can decide and work towards the system they want. I am still attached to India but frankly, I have lost all hope since the system is all corrupt. When you don't value honesty and human life, what else is left to fight for???
I only try to help at the individual level. Frankly, India as a whole - forget it. But if someone at the individual level needs help - I see a human being.
Frankly, I don't want my kids to go through the struggles I had. I am sure they will have their own. But regretting to be honest and hard working will not be one of them.
In the US, everyone gets a shot. It's your choice to take advantage of it or waste it.
I can't even file an FIR in the police station! Because then it will be a headache for the police and they will threaten you or ask for bribe after bribe.
In India, it all works through the "connections" concept. You have people in high places, then you can progress. Else - slum dog. But no millionaire. Just survival.
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by sunil vishnani on Mar 13, 2009 09:51 PM
What kind of honesty and environment are you taking abt mate...See the stats US stands far UP when it comes to crime like Rape , Car theft , execution , gun voilence , fire arms and many more . come out of the murkier belief and stop cribbing abt india u doing no good.....
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by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 07:01 PM
Consider for instance former president Bill Clinton and this will tell you the difference between India and the US
He ended in big trouble and the whole nation was in uproar - you know why?
Not because he had an extra-marital affair but because HE LIED.
But in India, the problem will be because he had an extra marital affair and lying is part of every day life for a politician and no one really cares.
This is just to illustrate that TRUTH & HONESTY is a big problem in India while IMMORALITY is a big problem in the US and West.
Re: INDIA SHOULD GIVE H1B VISA FOR BENGALADESHIS AND PAKISTANIS..
by irn bru on Mar 13, 2009 04:45 PM
they dont need visa... they just need to know jumping...crawaling...sailing..or swimming.. to work in India
Re: INDIA SHOULD GIVE H1B VISA FOR BENGALADESHIS AND PAKISTANIS..
by abc on Mar 13, 2009 04:45 PM
We did that thousands of years ago...Every new country gets tons of immigrants for the first few centuries..How else would you explain the difference in Shapes, sizes and colors of Indians as you go from north to south or east to west?
I have mixed views regarding the way this programme is handled but I wonder how the US is not concerned about the millions of illegal central american and other immigrants but is concentrating on 85000 legal immigrants instead.
Re: Hmm
by sudhir dhar on Mar 13, 2009 02:48 PM
Aha, Kaushik , now we know what racism is. Once, in Chicago, a Mexican-American, who was just sitting next to me at the airport , blurted out: The govt. will have to give justice to people who are not on H1B's too!
I asked him, what made him think I am on H1B? He said Indians are being preferred by the US govt. over Mexicans.
On furhter enquiry, it turned out that he had no idea what H1B was, he thought H1B means a special visa for Indians, whereas Latinas were not given the GC.
I realised that day, how INDIANS lacked any organisation which tells the Americans about their culture,religion, and skills. For example most Americans think, our main industry is Call centers. Nobody knows that India sent a unmanned probe to the moon, and neither do Americans know that India is ocerwhelmingly a non-muslim country.Latinas in particular think that we are ARABS!!!! I kid you not!
Anyway, Indians will never prosper beyond a certain level, till we UNITE and talk as one voice. Hopefully with increasing discrimination , Indians in USA will wake up.
Re: Re: Hmm
by Amitabh Mohanty on Mar 13, 2009 03:14 PM
Sir.... with due respect to your gyaaaan - what is your point ? Do we Indians need to unite to develop the country or do we need to unite to prove to the US that we are brilliant and fantastic and thats why we should be given H1B visas ? And does it matter if Latina's think we are Arabs ? Or did it matter to your ego that a pretty latina went to bed with someone else ( maybe an illiterate mexican farm hand ) and rejected you - the almighty s/w engineer Indian ? It doesnt make any difference to a Latina who you are and so why shud it matter to you whether they think you are arab or mongolian ? Secondly if India is good enuff to send an unmanned mission to the moon, surely it is good enuff for its people to stay there. Why do they desperately need H1B visas to escape to the US for a better life ? Any answers dude ?
Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by vijay raghavan on Mar 13, 2009 03:29 PM
Amitabh - you are missing the point. It is not about being accepted or rejected by a Latina. It is more about projecting the right image about India. If people in the US realize that Indians are highly educated, skilled people and are not confined to snake charmers and other exotic professions, there will be a wider acceptance for Indians abroad.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by sudhir dhar on Mar 13, 2009 10:11 PM
Vijay, its impossible to talk to losers like mohanty. If you see the tone of this guy, its apparent, he lives in a closed society.These guys just come on a H1B visa, embarass the Indian community with their cheapness, and then vanish.
They have no life.They work, come back home, eat Macher Jhol and sleep, and repeat the circle again.
They have no pilitical ambition, neither a helping nature for other Indians.
I am US citizen, and I work as a volunteer with the Gujrati Samaj. Gujjus help their own people to develop roots here in USA. Bongs like mohanty will even diss their own brothers, forget other Indians.See the way he disses latinas, as if they are animals.What he does not know, that what a latina thinks wuill be important, as their second generation in the US is oftem far more educated and sophisticated.Its aA holes like Mohanty , who screw it up for other desis. There should nbe a law against such losers even getting a passport.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by Amitabh Mohanty on Mar 13, 2009 03:42 PM
I hate to disappoint you sir and I don;t know what circles you have been hanging around in - the people in the US who matter know exactly what India(n)s are and what they are capable of. The reason why American investment was high in India and american corporates came rushing in to selel their products / outsource was precisely becoz of that. What the mexican laborer or latina on the street thinks about India is immaterial. The people who matter in the US know exactly what India has to offer. If they thought it was about snake charmers and clowns, Microsofts and Oracles and Googles of the world wouldnt be opening their development centers in India or the Mckinseys and BCG's and Booze Allen Hamiltons wouldnt be having 10 offices around the country. The Fords and GM's wouldnt have coming rushing in or there wouldnt have been a mad rush amongst Luxury hotels to open their chains. As simple as that. Ofcourse you are free to hang around with farm hands or dishwashers and take their opinion about India and educate them about our "CULTURE and HERTITAGE" - at the end of the day, they will go back and look after their own community's interests. You and Me and our culture don;t matter. Think about it - if the Chinese came and educated u about their glorious culture would you let chinese professionals come and take away all your jobs for cheaper wages ?
Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by sudhir dhar on Mar 13, 2009 09:42 PM
Dude mohanty, I dont think you are still a FOB(fresh of the boat ), and I doubt you even understand what I was saying about.
For the low IQed bongs, here I go again: Mexicans have a strong lobby in the US, their govt. tell the US, hey dont be tough on illegal latinas.I am saying, we should be able to say this , through our lobbies in the US, hey cool it on the Indian H1B's , dont treat them like shit. You have a problem with that? Mohanty seems to be a loser, who is jealous of fellow Indians making it big outside. Most of these 'mahanty types' leave Bengal and work in other states, and when they cannot make it out, they flip,I feel sorry for these guys.
Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by Calspadeaspade on Mar 13, 2009 06:43 PM
Very well said Amitabh. I dont know why Indians dont understand Americans being tough on H1B. Theeducated class has a loud voice in the US. They are competing for the H1 jobs.I cant blame them. they are also skilled. Illegal latino workers are a reality in Us , being neighbours just like Bdeshis and Nepalis in India.
Re: Re: Hmm
by Faceless Indian on Mar 13, 2009 03:26 PM
@Sudhir - according to youif Americans were educated about our culture, religion and skills - they would dedicate a special visa to Indians ? What world are you living in mate ? Its like a laborer who has been brought to help build a building saying that if I educate my master about my heritage he will let me stay on in this building indefintely. Yaaar - H1b was designed for a particular purpose - u go there, finish the job and get out. Simple. They paid you for the job and matter ends there. In between if you get a GC fine - if you dont why whine ? What discrimination are u talking about ? Indians get 45k out of 65k general H1B issued in a year trhu legal and dubious methods and on top of that you say that India is being discriminated against ? Wow man - u deserve an O category visa not an H1b.
Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by sudhir dhar on Mar 13, 2009 09:47 PM
Faceless, now I get it. You mean you are still stuck at the glass ceiling level of 65k? Its time to live life on the main stream.Start thinking , you are equal to the 'whites'. 65k? What a low expectation to have.Dude thats utterly middleclass.Any Indian professional , software or otherwise, with 10 years in the US, would be depressed at 65K.
Most of these rediffers, are frustated desis stuck in low jobs or have low esteem, and strive for a ethnic niche in the US, scared to confront main stream challenges of the US.
Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by RAHUL KATE on Mar 13, 2009 06:27 PM
HATS OFF AMITABH. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
One similar incident I have experienced is, someone asking my Client Engagement Partner if we have internet and other things in India. I said hello... the great great Sumeet Bhatia is an Indian and if I start listing all of them then I will spend all my time doing the same thing than to work.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by sudhir dhar on Mar 13, 2009 09:50 PM
H1B limits are being set by politicians who equate Indian professionals to latina illegals. Kapish lossseeeerrrr?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hmm
by sudhir dhar on Mar 13, 2009 10:02 PM
The sad truth is, a desi H1B, has less support to immigrate than a farm working latina. For Indians like me, who are are settled here in USA, I would like to see more Desis here in USA. The idea to is further our culture/race world wide.Mohanty and his multiple ids , have a problem with that. They want to just come to USA on a H1B, live like a refugee, be the butt of Jokes at the work place, and keep eating macher jhol with their hands.Losers.
There is nothing as good or nad but thinking makes it so is a right saying. Whether its India or US there is no place on earth which is free of problems and is perfect.
India has its own problems. People who go to US they do feel that we in India shd have the qualities and infrastructure that US offers. But people who decide to live in US do miss the cultural richness of India.
Again this is for individual to decide. I dont say anything good or bad to people who decide to leave India.
How long are Indians going to do slavery jobs in US holding H1B visa at the cost of country's selfrespect and dignity. Now time has come for Indians to contribute their bit selflessly to their motherland for having grown up eating on our land. There is a lot of demand for labours and maid servants in India.
Re: Re: Indians - Show your patriotism
by Somalinga Raju on Mar 13, 2009 01:48 PM
Why should i come and serve in US. If needed, i will feel proud to serve my fellow Indians in my motherland.
And when you hate to return back get buried there only after death, not on Bharat soil.
Re: Re: Re: Indians - Show your patriotism
by Manoj K on Mar 13, 2009 02:28 PM
There are a lot more descrimination in india in day to day life for migrants. If you are in your own town/state then only there is chance that you will not face descrimination. Violence and descrimination against migrants are well known whereever you go. Be in Bombay, pune, Chennai, bangalore, Kolkata, delhi ....... This list can go on and may include all cities and towns.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Indians - Show your patriotism
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Mar 13, 2009 05:12 PM
Living in India sucks. You can't even go to another state to work without facing discrimination and having to go through all the polictical problems that come with it.
Ever since I left India, life has been comfortable, people treat me like a human being and not like a some low caste or low qualified guy. People appreciate you for your charecter and what you can do here.
So wake up and start looking at your country critically. The glory days of India are over if ever there was one... unless you are a politician or a millionaire.
Since independence we are dependent on west for commercial success...Its high time our govt shud stop begging the west...but is it possible...BIG???????????????????????????????
