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ravi kumar
what
by ravi kumar on Feb 18, 2009 12:02 PM

moderator is protecting AT and Be JUst by disabling the report abuse for him..

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Rajendra Gupta
Indians start jumping too high too soon
by Rajendra Gupta on Feb 18, 2009 11:59 AM  | Hide replies

Indians have a tendency to live in dreamworld and they start jumping too much on even a small achievement comparing with and challenging western dominance in science,research,technology and industry.A bunch of corrupt,greedy and lethargic lot Indians have hardly shown any originality in any think in recent decades despite 100 year old education and R&D system prevailing in India.Simply because we are cunning,selfish,loose character,greedy and corrupt people.See how good for nothing guys have take over university system and technical education in country.The company R&D is fraudulent and to show activity and to collect government grants.Indians are skilled only in plagiarism and copying and cut paste.
The little achievement that we are bragging are done in guided and target oriented environment of GE under directions and supervision of original researchers of GE.Indians are doing the dirty work or validation and engineering the part of innovations.Just like any other labors employed elsewhere.
It is time Indians come out of self created euphoria and foolish dreamworld of super power, inventors and intelligent guys.We just are not.We are a corrupt and selfish quarrelling lot with idiots ruling everywhere in politics,universities and R&D labs.Individual brilliance is everrywhere in all countries and all communtiies.So what is there to brag in it?media in india is most irresponsible and coins words and flatters crooks everywhere including polticians like mayawati,Sonia or Rahul

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srinivasan mv
Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by srinivasan mv on Feb 18, 2009 01:48 PM
India can not innnovate anything. Because, our Govt. will not allow anyone to grow in the name of caste and vote bank politics. Intelligent and hard working people from all spectrum should be encouraged then only beneficial innovations will take place and people's life will be comfortable. We need educated politicians in the first place. Corruption should be put down. Politicians will not do anything to stamp out corruption, it is only the people's movement which can stamp out corruption.

Arise,Awake and stop not until corruptin is wiped out.

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ravi kumar
islam and hinduism
by ravi kumar on Feb 18, 2009 11:59 AM  | Hide replies

Hinduism and Islam, from the of arrival of the Arabs as far back as the eighth century AD, has had a checkered history.

During the Muslim conquests, Islam gained many converts on the Indian sub-continent primarily from Hinduism or Buddhism; the two dominant local religions. Inter-marriage and immigration from other Islamic lands have helped in instilling this idea in the people of greater India. Many of the new Muslim rulers looked down upon the idea Hinduism as having Iconodulistic religious practices and were to various degrees iconoclastic. Prominent examples of these are Mahmud of Ghazni and the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb on either end of the timeline for Islamic rulers. In addition, Muslims in India also developed a caste system that divided the Arab-descended "Ashraf" Muslims and the "Ajlaf" converts, with the "Arzal" untouchables at the lowest rung[1][2][3][4][5] The term "Arzal" stands for "degraded" and the Arzal castes are further subdivided into Bhanar, Halalkhor, Hijra, Kasbi, Lalbegi, Maugta, Mehtar etc.[4][5][6]



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target
Re: islam and hinduism
by target on Feb 18, 2009 12:20 PM
talk of science and not stup.id subject

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IndiaForce India
Indians start jumping too high too soon
by IndiaForce India on Feb 18, 2009 11:58 AM  | Hide replies

Indians have a tendency to live in dreamworld and they start jumping too much on even a small achievement comparing with and challenging western dominance in science,research,technology and industry.A bunch of corrupt,greedy and lethargic lot Indians have hardly shown any originality in any think in recent decades despite 100 year old education and R&D system prevailing in India.Simply because we are cunning,selfish,loose character,greedy and corrupt people.See how good for nothing guys have take over university system and technical education in country.The company R&D is fraudulent and to show activity and to collect government grants.Indians are skilled only in plagiarism and copying and cut paste.
The little achievement that we are bragging are done in guided and target oriented environment of GE under directions and supervision of original researchers of GE.Indians are doing the dirty work or validation and engineering the part of innovations.Just like any other labors employed elsewhere.
It is time Indians come out of self created euphoria and foolish dreamworld of super power, inventors and intelligent guys.We just are not.We are a corrupt and selfish quarrelling lot with idiots ruling everywhere in politics,universities and R&D labs.Individual brilliance is everrywhere in all countries and all communtiies.So what is there to brag in it?media in india is most irresponsible and coins words and flatters crooks everywhere including polticians like mayawati,Sonia or Rahul

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martin descent
Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by martin descent on Feb 18, 2009 12:03 PM
and who are you Albert Einstein ?

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A T
Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by A T on Feb 18, 2009 12:00 PM
Indian supercomputer - Has hardware from HP and NEC how the hell can it be indigenous?
Indian rockets - Components from abroad
Indian PC - Processors from abroad
Indian fighter - Engine itself from USA
Indian metro train - boogies from Korea, other tech from Japan
Indian software industry - Not product but servicing western companies.
Indian car Nano - Designed in IDEA Italy just like all other tata cars, Fuel injection in engine by Bosch Germany
Indian movies - 90% copied by some obscure foreign movie, scene by scene copy
Indian cellphones - Dont exist.
Indian talent - Huge in number coolie in services
Indian Railways - No change from British era. They will develop only when they get bullet trains from Japan or Korea.
Indian drugs - Cheap generic copies of International drugs which go off patent. No new drug developed by India. All they can do is copy an already existing drug
Indian commercial or military airplane - Dont exist on the world scale. Saras also failed in marketing in India itself.

Indian people - Chalta hai attitude.

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target
Re: Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by target on Feb 18, 2009 12:22 PM
rightly said

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Test
Re: Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by Test on Feb 18, 2009 12:22 PM
What do you think we should keep on re-inventing the wheel....
India invented zero & nobody strated arguing about it... everyone used it to make their life better...
India has now become smarter... not to re-invent the wheel but use it for their benefit...

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kamal hassan
Re: Re: Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by kamal hassan on Feb 18, 2009 12:31 PM
Well said tesr, Indian brains r used by other countries & assembled to make bigger parts and our names do not come out,see how many r in NASA & other research institutes

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martin descent
Re: Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by martin descent on Feb 18, 2009 12:04 PM
and you ? not even a single line of positivity.. I pity those who have to spend time with you.. their life must be he*l

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sandeep
Re: Re: Indians start jumping too high too soon
by sandeep on Feb 21, 2009 03:03 PM
And Last One AT- must be a illegal person born from any foreigner

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Ajay Pandey
Bogus
by Ajay Pandey on Feb 18, 2009 11:52 AM

The news article is bogus. This is same what Indians use to do sitting in Nasa, Google, GE etc in US. Just to save money those jobs shifted to India. Still the thought process, machinery, money and end profitability is with the US companies. India or Indians are not going to benefited from any such work. Real innovation will come when, people start making small small things, which can change lives of millions of Indians without investing huge money or big infrastructure for R&D. Wakeup everybody, we need to innovate at much ground level than thinking about Rockets and sending people to moon or working for GE.

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A T
Innovation or CHORI ?
by A T on Feb 18, 2009 11:50 AM

Indian supercomputer - Has hardware from HP and NEC how the hell can it be indigenous?
Indian rockets - Components from abroad
Indian PC - Processors from abroad
Indian fighter - Engine itself from USA
Indian metro train - boogies from Korea, other tech from Japan
Indian software industry - Not product but servicing western companies.
Indian car Nano - Designed in IDEA Italy just like all other tata cars, Fuel injection in engine by Bosch Germany
Indian movies - 90% copied by some obscure foreign movie, scene by scene copy
Indian cellphones - Dont exist.
Indian talent - Huge in number coolie in services
Indian Railways - No change from British era. They will develop only when they get bullet trains from Japan or Korea.
Indian drugs - Cheap generic copies of International drugs which go off patent. No new drug developed by India. All they can do is copy an already existing drug
Indian commercial or military airplane - Dont exist on the world scale. Saras also failed in marketing in India itself.

Indian people - Chalta hai attitude.

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Be JUST
Does GOD need any Name..??
by Be JUST on Feb 18, 2009 11:26 AM  | Hide replies

You can Call GOD by any Name (which does not strike any image)


Why Muslims dont use the word "God " for Allah..??

it can be manipulated as "GODs" and "Godess" (where there is no male or female God)

"He God" or "She God" can also occur,

but with Allah there is nothing as

- ALLAHS
or HE ALLAH or SHE ALLAH

Does GOD Need a NAME.??
NO.. GOD needs no NAME,

AL ILAH = ALLAH

ILAH means Omnipotent ( Superior power).


YOu can call him by ANY NAME ( I repeat, ANY NAME), but

mentioning his name should not invoke any Image to your mind

(because it is prohibited by GOD).

Ex if you call GOD as 'Chair' and then the image of chair

comes to mind.. this is what God prohibits..


We call GOD by ALLAH
Ar-Rahman (gracious)
Ar-Raheem (Merciful)
Al-Khalik (The creator)
Al-Malik (The lord of everything)
Ar-Razik - (The sustenance provider)..
Al- Hakeem ( The curer)
Al -Aziz - The Intelligent, Wise
.
.
.
>>>>>>>>

You cannot claim the MBBS degree without enrolling and passing the required Exams, Right..??

Lkewise.. Jannat (Paradise) is only for the Believers of God

(Muslims) not for the Disbelievers(Kaffirs) of GOD


Its your OWN WILL AND wish to accept ISLAM or Reject ISLAM
Allah Says: There is no Compulsion in Religion

... If only Allah guided you..
Allah does what he wishes..

Remember PARADISE is ONLY for the DEAR ones of ALLAH, Who obeyed his commands and worshipped him

and not for the Rejecters of TRUTH...

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R Siva Kumar
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by R Siva Kumar on Feb 18, 2009 11:39 AM
did your ALLAH says bomb all over the world and kill many innocent people?

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Be JUST
Re: Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Be JUST on Feb 18, 2009 12:00 PM
isl am means peace...

Islm never preached violence..

Dont judge the car by the Driver..

Look for the qualities of the Car..

Mileage, security of the car...etc...

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Be JUST
Re: Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Be JUST on Feb 18, 2009 11:59 AM
Islam means peace...

Dont judge the CAR by the driver..

Look for the Qualities of the car, like mileage, security.. etc..

Drivers sometimes are bad...

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prakash shetty
Re: Re: Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by prakash shetty on Feb 18, 2009 02:07 PM
OK.THATS YOUR RELIGION IT SAYS LIKE THAT AND YOU FOLLOW AND EQUALLY RESPECT THE OTHER RELIGIONS BELIEF AND THE WAY THEY WORSHIP GOD.DONT GO TO COMPARE THE RELIGIONS OK.I AGREE EVEN %SLAM ALSO A GOOD RELIGION IF THE FOLLOWERS OF THAT IMPLIMENT AND PRACTICE EXACTLY IN THEIR DAILY LIFE.THEN THE WORLD WILL BE BENIFTED IF EVERY M*USLIM PRACTICE AS IT IS SAID IN THE Q*URAN.ONLY KNOWING AND PREACHING AND COMPARING AND FORCING THE BELIEFS WITHOUT IMPLEMENTING/PRACTICING IS JUST A SHOW OFF.

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ss sk
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by ss sk on Feb 18, 2009 11:50 AM
GOD is needed in the first place now ?

`Be just' copied from Zakir ?

However, ur omnipotent God (allah) and others omnipotent Gods / goddesses are the trouble mongers. Think about the world Without ur claim of Omnipotent and others Omnipotents, u will see the world really beatiful. No proclamation/shouting of god is great/ chantings/bells/no rituals, no beliefs, no customs..it would like u r already in heaven.
Alas..ur beliefs,my beliefs n others beliefs, i dont think this would be possible.
Finally, when truth is 1, there should not be so much beliefs, religions n creeds...Basically something wrong with all this beliefs n religions. Have the guts to think over it...i hope u ll not...
b'coz ur indoctrined already n u ll not dare to bare..i mean ur mind..


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Venkat Mahesh
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Venkat Mahesh on Feb 18, 2009 11:53 AM
Good one..all this is correct but one thing is important did allah said you to kill / bomb who does not beleive in allah did allah ask to discriminate women.. did allah ask you to kill innocent people did allah ask to help only muslim people common give me a break no religion will ever say that.. for me allah is for serving humanity, showing kindness respect and lead a peacefull and respectable life atleast not to kill people ... if you dnt understand this one thing i want you to say is you are not a MUSLIM or You dnt beleive in ALLAH.

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Be JUST
Re: Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Be JUST on Feb 18, 2009 12:01 PM
Islaam means peace...

Islm never preached violence..

Dont judge the car by the Driver..

Look for the qualities of the Car..

Mileage, security of the car...etc...

Read the holy Qur'an by yourself and you will know the truth..

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Be JUST
Re: Re: Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Be JUST on Feb 18, 2009 12:03 PM
Islaam preaches to worship only GOD..

If you worship only GOd you are a Moslem..

and Paradise is for the people who dont reject GOD...

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sharad patil
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by sharad patil on Feb 18, 2009 12:10 PM
YOu are contradicting two things ...first you told muslims don't call word GOD...but you have used GOD world several times...Everything has physical existance...and whatever is physical exist that is visible or you can feel it physcially...Regarding paradise...there is no thing like paradise...come out of that...

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ss sk
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by ss sk on Feb 18, 2009 11:58 AM
why GOD is needed in the first place ?
seems tobe copied from Zakir 's lectures ?

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Bharat Bhushan
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Bharat Bhushan on Feb 18, 2009 12:09 PM
Pl do not post irrelevant mails on board.

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Venkat Mahesh
Re: Does GOD need any Name..??
by Venkat Mahesh on Feb 18, 2009 11:52 AM
Good one..all this is correct but one thing is important did allah said you to kill / bomb who does not beleive in allah did allah ask to discriminate women.. did allah ask you to kill innocent people did allah ask to help only muslim people common give me a break no religion will ever say that.. for me allah is for serving humanity, showing kindness respect and lead a peacefull and respectable life atleast not to kill people ... if you dnt understand this one thing i want you to say is you are not a MUSLIM or You dnt beleive in ALLAH.

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