Our education system developed by Macaulay followed by Indian congress govt is to make clerks and service people to the world Not to invent for India. When we change our education system proposed for our nation then we will start thinking about invention. Yes there are special people who could do some in india itself : Indian Govt will not support to become innovative country than copying country. We are already in the slavism of Monarch Nhru family looking for Rahul Gandhi who does not know anything
With these kind of people and politicians it is great achievement if some body could achieve littlebit
Re: Innovation from India?
by sandeep on Feb 18, 2009 03:38 PM
Following facts were published in a German Magazine which deals with world history. (I couldn't find out the name of that German Magazine, if you find please let me know.) 38% of Doctors in America are Indians. 12% of Scientists in America are Indians. 36% of NASA employees are Indians. 34% of Microsoft employees are Indians. 28% of IBM employees are Indians. 17% of Intel employees are Indians. 13% of Xerox employees are Indians.
Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by Manoj K on Feb 18, 2009 08:39 PM
Do not come up with this kind of hypothetical data. This is proven wrong. This list is just good for satisfying indian's ego only.
Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by A T on Feb 18, 2009 03:55 PM
WHICH German magazine ? It is FAKE spam mail probogated by CHOR Indians. I just checked Nasa site barely 3% are Asians, how the bloody hell can 36% be Bhinndians ?
Re: Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by sandeep on Feb 18, 2009 04:59 PM
Do you have login id for nasa website or r u hosting nasa website? i searched but i couldnt find that the 3% are asians
Re: Re: Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by A T on Feb 18, 2009 05:30 PM
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Re: Innovation from India?
by sandeep on Feb 18, 2009 03:35 PM
The number system was invented by India. Aryabhatta was the scientist who invented the digit zero.
Sanskrit is considered as the mother of all higher languages. This is because it is the most precise, and therefore suitable language for computer software. ( a report in Forbes magazine, July 1987 ). Chess was invented in India. Algebra, Trigonometry and Calculus are studies which originated in India. The' place value system' and the 'decimal system' were developed in 100 BC in India. India is.......the Largest democracy in the world
The game of snakes & ladders was created by the 13th century poet saint Gyandev. It was originally called 'Mokshapat.' The ladders in the game represented virtues and the snakes indicated vices. The game was played with cowrie shells and dices. Later through time, the game underwent several modifications but the meaning is the same i.e good deeds take us to heaven and evil to a cycle of re-births. The world's highest cricket ground is in Chail, Himachal Pradesh. Built in 1893 after levelling a hilltop, this cricket pitch is 2444 meters above sea level. India has the most post offices in the world ! The largest employer in the world is the Indian railway system, employing over a million people !. The World's first university was established in Takshila in 700 BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century was one of the greatest achievement
Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by A T on Feb 18, 2009 03:57 PM
Blab blah blah and your people beg to get the hell out of hellish India who couldnt built a decent livable society
Re: Innovation from India?
by Guest on Feb 18, 2009 02:06 PM
Xian,
It is too hard for you understand. Indian Scientis built Super computer when US denied access to India. When chaina investing in Nuclear bombs and moving down students with takers, Indian scientts built language processrs and giga bit chips. It is out of your league to imagine it. Since indian chooses to be peoceful and not use inventions for making money, credit does not go unnoticed.
Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by prakash shetty on Feb 18, 2009 02:17 PM
TRUE MR.GUEST.ITS DIFFICULT TO DIGEST TO SOMEBODY.LET THEM SCRATCH THEIR HEAD .
Re: Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by A T on Feb 18, 2009 02:41 PM
Indian supercomputer - Has hardware from HP and NEC how the hell can it be indigenous? Indian rockets - Components from abroad Indian PC - Processors from abroad Indian fighter - Engine itself from USA Indian metro train - boogies from Korea, other tech from Japan Indian software industry - Not product but servicing western companies. Indian car Nano - Designed in IDEA Italy just like all other tata cars, Fuel injection in engine by Bosch Germany Indian movies - 90% copied by some obscure foreign movie, scene by scene copy Indian cellphones - Dont exist. Indian talent - Huge in number coolie in services Indian Railways - No change from British era. They will develop only when they get bullet trains from Japan or Korea. Indian drugs - Cheap generic copies of International drugs which go off patent. No new drug developed by India. All they can do is copy an already existing drug Indian commercial or military airplane - Dont exist on the world scale. Saras also failed in marketing in India itself.
Re: Re: Re: Innovation from India?
by Money tvs on Feb 18, 2009 03:02 PM
Americans and japanese use the zero concept invented by an Indian. without the concept of zero, there is no chip, no processor, the numbers they use are the Indo-arabic numbers. dows it make them chor. Your kind o people won't recognize innovation unless it is by someone with yellow or white skin. I pity your kind.
As usual, two ( deluding) Indians living in LA write about India as innovation leader of the future. With less than 0.8% of GDP spent on R&D in India, compared to 4% in the west, Singapore, Japan, Korea etc., India is a far away from this dream. So called smart schools ( IITs ) can only produce tecnicians for the west. Innovation is not part of your culture. This is very much reflected in the scientific output from Indian univarsities ( ~ 150 of them) since indpendence ( about 60 years ago). There is nothing wrong in dreaming. However, deluding is dangerous. Don't mislead.
Re: India & innovation
by muthuraj ramaswamy on Feb 18, 2009 03:29 PM
Our education system developed by Macaulay followed by Indian congress govt is to make clerks and service people to the world Not to invent for India. When we change our education system proposed for our nation then we will start thinking about invention. Yes there are special people who could do some in india itself : Indian Govt will not support to become innovative country than copying country. We are already in the slavism of Monarch Nhru family looking for Rahul Gandhi who does not know anything
With these kind of people and politicians it is great achievement if some body could achieve littlebit
Good sign, even though the corporates got market benefits out of it. Atleast we can be happy that offshore centers are adding good value additions with the existing row. I wish, Indian entrepreneurs should build more products instead of clinging to MNCs for outsourcing works. Innovation should be the prime criteria behind entrepreneurship. But, I don't know how we call this as innovation, only GE engineers can explain.
Indians should not TRUST each other because there are no CITIZENS in India. There are only PEOPLE living in India.
Here it is why.
DESPERATION 85% of Indians are languishing in an informal economy to earn $2 a day so that they can feed a MEAL for their family. Hence their lives oscillate between DESPERATION and FRUSTRATION. They will SUCCUMB easily to CORRUPTION and vote for any CANDIDATE in ELECTIONS for 100 rupees.
COLLUSION Remaining Indians are even more DESPERATE because they prefer to evade TAXES at any cost. SACHIN TENDULAR ,India's richest sportsman has shamelessly evaded taxes when he imported FERRARI sports car. As we know without TAXES there is no CIVILIZATION. And one Indian does not want fellow Indian to SUCCEED. BRIBE or CASTE is the cohesive relation between any two individuals in politics, business, police and judiciary. Source of REVENUE for Govt is Corporate TAXES. And only source of FUNDS for Political Parties is Corporate BRIBES.
SOLUTION I suppose everybody in India should OWN a hand gun. And arms LICENSE costs just 100 rupees in India.
An armed society is a POLITE society. And it is not FEAR that keeps us polite -- it is RESPONSIBILITY.
Re: Sorry to say. But the truth is
by Rahul Joshi on Feb 18, 2009 01:07 PM
Its true what you said for most of the part but I disagree on your SOLUTION. Law of Gun is hardly a solution in these times. There will be a chaotic bloodbath in a mixed society like India. I suppose you are saying this in comparison to what happened in wild west. Those were different times and a different social structure unlike hybrid India.
This is the central message here and it is well supported.
Good to note that the corporate sector is taking advantage of the constructive market forces. What about the Government? It is still deeply steeped in the old way - great noise and much ado accompanied by do nothing and a determined effort by ignorant interests to sustain themselves. Consequence: a great opportunity to lead the world in innovation with our vast government market to provide enterprise scale proof points is going abegging.
Innovation needs an attitude in the market place and we are still dependent on the West for that.
Re: Re: dont support comps that fire ppl
by parun kansal on Feb 18, 2009 02:39 PM
this is not a govt., this is a money earning people who are runnig a govt.
If you want Indian economy to roar again, please use your vote judiciously in the coming lok sabha elections. Do not support regional parties and its leaders like Mayawati, Mulayam,Chandra babu Naidu, Jayalalitha and ofcourse the left parties. Support only to national parties whether it is UPA or NDA. A stable government only can take Indian economy keep going and recover from the turmoil happening today eventhough it was not created by us. People of india should aware that Indian economy is not that much bad compared to other global peers. All was because of a stable government and its policy measures. So keep faith on india and elect your government to last for 5 years to witness the country to prosper.
Re: my fellow citizens
by Sathish N on Feb 18, 2009 12:39 PM
National party or regional party is of no consequence. Attitude is what matters. If the party wants to do good for the country, that is what we need. It is the national parties which ruled for most of the years of independence and has corrupted our society. To let someone be able to grow from grass roots without bending backwards to someone in a national party, we need to recognise and promote regional parties. If they are good and can scale up will become national parties. Restricting parties is definitely not party of democratic functioning.
Re: my fellow citizens
by yele on Feb 18, 2009 12:32 PM
agree with those can read your message may probbably act on your or my suggetion. But do you maximum % of Vote comes from uneduated who can not read or write/ or Lower category people and migrated from Pakistan and bangladesh they only votes. And there % is sufficient to win the election. So everyone including electroni and print media should convey this message but they do not do. And political person mulayam , amar, maywati, mamata , CPM etc, they are expert in making castism and religion base. That is the reason India is still 300 years behind than any developed country.
Re: Re: my fellow citizens
by james on Feb 18, 2009 12:42 PM
ya satish but where is a regional leader who doesnt have personal interests or non-corrupt?
Re: Re: Re: my fellow citizens
by Sathish N on Feb 18, 2009 12:45 PM
correct, the criteria is good people and not the national or regional party. If you think regional party is not good, don't vote for that regional party. If you think a national party is not good, don't vote for that national party. But, the statement that only national parties should be voted for holds no water.
Re: Re: my fellow citizens
by Sathish N on Feb 18, 2009 12:46 PM
For the good of the countries, we need to get rid of party system and simply vote for individuals who will do good for the society.
Unless the consumption power of Indian population is increased, no amount of rate cut in terms of CRR, Repo Rate , SLR , Reverse Repo , ECCB or any such monetary package to organisations/sectors will bear any fruit. Such measures on part of Govt only helps in capitalising Banks. But, no banks is willing to lend its money to Common Man because of fear of growing defaulters ?
How to increase consumption power of Common Man ?
Basic needs of Human Being: Roti , Kapada and Makaan.
Common Man spends about 50 to 60 per cent of its income in either paying EMI or House Rent ? Then where is the money left with him/her to spend money on other things.
Reducing rate on Home lone will not help . Why ? Because no person will ever think of purchasing House @ Rs. 20 Lacs to 50 Lacs . Not even if they are given House Loan. Because they know that they will not be able to repay . Initially they may repay for few months then they will default becoz of poor income package. If taken loan of 20 Lacs, this simply translates it into mortgaging their own life for paying EMI all through out his life.
Where is the affordable House ?
Govt. relaxed House loan rate on 5 Lacs House ? Do House at this price available in the market.
Only Solution :
a) Reduce the price of House within the bracket of 3- 5Lacs. Or b) Govt should come out with scheme of building affordable houses for Common Man and not for Investors. Ensure it does not fall in the clutches of Land Sharkers/Pro
Mr.Moderator the discussion for islam and preaching islam is not at all necessary in this discussion board, kindly allow all readers to report abuse, Thanks in Advance.
Re: no need
by faheem duke on Feb 18, 2009 03:51 PM
amazing...moderator disabled the report abuse link!! i thought moderator himself wanted to promote the hatred amongst the people
