Re: good but?
by obama on Dec 23, 2009 12:45 AM
it will help in one way. common people study science, he will get some phd scholorship by these programs. After that he/she can settle in USA or other countries. That way this program will help by its scholorships.
Its good news that Dr. SKB has completed the sequencing in India. But there are certain aspects we need to be careful about. (1) Its not "without any international exposure or support" - that is impossible as yet - they have used equipment and techniques that were developed abroad and have just repeated something already done outside (2)In spite of the US sequencing the human genome in the year 2000 and the same type of hype regarding treatment applications, nothing significant has improved in healthcare as a direct result of the genome sequencing as of yet. I suggest we do not get carried away by such articles, though we apreciate that the work has been done in our country now.
Re: Caution
by rama krishna on Dec 22, 2009 01:02 PM
well said joe, being myself a researcher i know what he means by wht he acheived. They didnt use new machines, or new method like ventor or sanger. just they imitated what is done abroad. Another thing personalized medicine is not going to happen even in this century for sure.
These big bosses takes only credit ........... they r not scientist , they r only politicians of science, they waste all the money of the government. whatever small or big innovation comes , comes from the effort of hard working students who work about 18-20hrs a day 7 days a week. they dont get any credit for their work ........... forget the credit these hard working research scholars have to work on a stipend which is even lower than some fourth class employees.
These big bosses of science like csir director general is a political post rather then scientific post. only good politicians r able to reach such post n then rip off credits from students n their juniors to become great scientis......... further using it for politics of science.
Re: politics of science
by chalguru on Dec 22, 2009 10:52 AM
India research ------- copying and doing what white man already has done by paying monkey peanuts to staff , worship boss like a GOD, and then claim it was done cheaply !
Their stupid brains never come up with a new idea FIRST.
Re: Re: politics of science
by RathaChamundeeswari Angalamman on Dec 22, 2009 10:55 AM
Their tupid brains are better than yours posting crap in message board
Re: Re: politics of science
by wizardo id on Dec 22, 2009 11:32 AM
why do we need to reinvent the wheel again ? i'll tell you here"s why: we'll be saving a ton of money by not having to pay a royal royalty to western companies (is itself good enough). its like rockets - we dont have to pay 2-3 times as much to send our satellites through araine. there are very few countries who can send rockets, and we are one. so why be dependant on some yankee firm ?
Re: Re: Re: politics of science
by Ravi Shankar on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 PM
It is not reinventing the wheel, you should know something before commenting.
Every human is unique and everyone, everybody responds to treatment due to unique genetic makeup and sequencing helps in giving correct treatment ,saves trial and error treatment
Re: Re: Re: Re: politics of science
by rama krishna on Dec 22, 2009 01:05 PM
sequencing takes lot of time, which genes are u going to sequence and which genes are going to be targeted. individual specific medicine is not so near dear.
Re: Re: politics of science
by Ravi Shankar on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 PM
SO if white man gets medical treatment ,you should not get yourself to prevent copying. Dont be absurd.
All the white man does are not original , that also you should be kept in mind.
This is the type of attitude that encourages MNC to come do research on Indians and sell drugs to ourselves
Very often we hear a lot about the great achievements & breakthrough research done by our scientists and consequently India joining the “Elite Club” of E.U. & U.S. Did all those researches done at the lab come into reality and did they enrich the lives of Indians at all? I doubt it very much.
Re: India cracks human genome, joins elite club
by wizardo id on Dec 22, 2009 11:26 AM
youve gotta be kidding. you watch tv/ weather forecasts/ telecommunication revolution is all thanks to some good R & D done in india. of course, there's a lot of foreign input too. but its the same everywhere else i nthe world too - they borrow and buy tech from world over.
Re: India cracks human genome, joins elite club
by chin chu on Dec 22, 2009 10:44 AM
very true. We always sit with elite people it seems but have the same issues which we had earlier.
Anything that helps the health of mankind is worth the money gone into it, though it may not result in serious future development.
I think its definately better than NASA and other space agency efforts investing crores and crores of dollars in the name of searching life on other planets, other solar systems, space tourism, and other timepass when they cant even manage life on earth or predict climate changes, siesmaic alerts and take measures against them causing huge damage to life and property.
everyone of you see the budget of space agencies and then you wont utter a word, leave alone a paragraph. Space tourism ticket for one person is one crore rupees, you are free to go, come on cheers, enjoy ur ride. Read carefully i didnot say space research is rubbish but comparitive analysis and its practical benifits that we get in real life are far less blame it on anyone.
thinks like terrorism breeds from this only where pockets of development and highly undeveloped are formed and then one bomb can destroy the efforts of 10 years.
Re: Read carefully without bias
by ulta pulta on Dec 22, 2009 10:35 AM
only thing i mean 2 say is get your basics and foundation right before moving forward.
Re: Re: Read carefully without bias
by RathaChamundeeswari Angalamman on Dec 22, 2009 11:06 AM
Never realised saying congratulations is so tough. Looking for umpteen reasons not to.