I have noticed people here are more engaged with again ‘Indian’ versus ‘West’, rather than looking into the work of Prof Jagdish. Not to deny, I was happy and also intrigued to know about the Indian candidate for the Nobel. But to me, Prof Jagdish reflects more of American sentiments and logic, than any of India’s, advocating ‘free market’ primarily. In this era of neoliberal globalisation, if people like Prof Jagdish would not compete for such prize, I wonder who else will!!!
Re: IF ANYONE REPLIES THEY R LIKE ME
by Karthik c on Sep 24, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Because India is always short of heroes, be it any field. So we have to applaud a Sunita Williams and other NRI's. That is our country's fate.
It is sure that any one who finds a medicine to cure virus like HIV or cure STDs permanently would definitely receive a nobel prize in health science. Scientists and researchers, please try to achieve that.
Re: Dear Jaichand
by apurva singh on Sep 24, 2008 02:34 PM Permalink
son of a gun jaichand is a real brilliant guy. hats off for calling a spade a spade, and a short, dark, weak, insecure, arrogant guy and indian!! keep it up jaichand. wanna hear more of your gyan.
Re: Dear Jaichand
by Sesh on Sep 24, 2008 02:34 PM Permalink
varun, not all he says is true... and of that which seems to be applicable, it has to be understood in light of the situation and individual...
Other than perhaps in literature, nobel award has got a direct link with the quality of research facilities available to the aspirants. Quality of research facilities again directly varies with the economic well being (GDP) of the country.No wonder most of the nobel prize winners are from USA irrespective of the individual identities of the prize recepients as to where they originally hail from. It is baseless to identify a nobel prize winner as citizen of any other country other than the country where he could do his research work.
It is really heartening to know that Mr.Bhagawati will soon be receiving the Nobel award. As an Indian it is a matter of pride that we are not far behind many developed countries in terms of producing eminent scientists, economists and literates.
This is a refreshing news after so many days that the headlines have been occupied by serial bomb explosions.
Let us hope he bags the award. Good luck professor
Re: GREAT!
by Jaichand on Sep 24, 2008 01:43 PM Permalink
I cannot undestand what you are talking about ?
USA 320 Nobels Germany 70 Nobels Australia 12 Nobels Great Britain 100 Nobels India 7
Such arrogant attitude even with being nobodies can come only from Indians in particular.
How to find an Indian in your office ? Find the most brooding, frowning, and a man having deep inferiority complex reflected in self praising dialogues and you will see an Indian or yourself in mirror.
Re: GREAT!
by Sesh on Sep 24, 2008 01:51 PM Permalink
incidentally, one would also find that the most brooding, frowning man is the most logical, smart and probably the type that adds value to the company...
Re: GREAT!
by Harish Manwani on Sep 24, 2008 02:10 PM Permalink
For God's sake, stop this self-praising nonsense. Bhagwati is Indian only by race or origin. He studied and worked in the US, and is an American citizen. It shows India's weakness rather than strength that people born in this country have to go abroad to shine. So if Bhagwati wins, it is not exactly a matter of national pride.
Re: GREAT!
by Jaichand on Sep 24, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
By your logic Americans who won 320 nobels should be hyper arrogant and so should be Mr bill gates and Warren buffet ..... they are every so humble dont you see them. no hint of arrogance.
Indians have definately a whole gene of ARROGANCE in them, in reality it is a inferiority complex.
That boxer vijender said he could defeate mohammad ali and mike tyson at once at the same time, when he won an olympic bronze. Such arrogance is uncalled for.
Re: GREAT!
by Sesh on Sep 24, 2008 02:08 PM Permalink
nobel prize is definitely a great honour, but look at the history of the countries from which the laurettes have come from...
india has been crippled under foreign ruly and it is not easy to come back with a bang...
in spite of adversities, the average indian has come a long way to challenge those who were once the rulers (read as looters also) of india...
have patience... do not make unfair comparisons...
See Indian IT industry sitting on a fat cash of $40 billion made using cheap labour, what have they INVENTED in the last 10 years ?
BTW British went 60 years ago and look at the countries like Japan, Germany, Taiwan, China , South Korea, etc which were TOTALLY destroyed by the war stand today and then look at India which had biggest Industrial base in Asia in 1948 stand today.
Re: Re: GREAT!
by Sesh on Sep 24, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
on the same, i do agree that some degree of arrogance springs from inferiority complex... but how does this complex arise?
the truth is that every indian is brainwashed to believe that anything indian is shit and only the western is good... hence the eagerness to discard indianness and to grasp the western in language, dress, conduct, manners and culture...
obviously, such guys when faced with brits or americans look down on themselves and it evolves on the lines of master-slave relationship...
so, it is mere power psychology... if a situation arises when whites have to earn their bread in india... then the most brooding, most irritable, arrogant, least sensitive and of course white fellow would the the brit or the american...
Re: GREAT!
by Jayan Prasad on Sep 24, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
hey sesh ur point is very true and not many people realise the complexity of this issue,,,,every bit of out thinking is handicapped by english and westernisation. not many people understand the consequences of lingual and cultural imperialisation/dominance . they simply think west is better because of their technological advancements.but dont inderstand why such advancements HAD to happen there.
Re: GREAT!
by satyarthi on Sep 24, 2008 02:05 PM Permalink
Winning a particular Prize depends on opportunity and grooming. Moreover, all those who won NP in America might have come from different nationality. Most of them are jews and Germans, collected by Americans after World War II.
Re: GREAT!
by Jaichand on Sep 24, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
So what is YOUR problem, They ARE Americans finally. and btw did you do any research that they are ONLY jews and Germans ?
In the last 7 years 20 Americans have won Nobels, no of them is a German or a Jew.
I was making a point about arrogance not your stupid argument. What are you trying to prove ? UR POINT ?
Re: oh come on,he is an american!
by Jaichand on Sep 24, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
He ain't American, he is dark, weak, short, arrogant, jealous, and thinks he is the best human sample in the universe, also known as an Indian.
Re: oh come on,he is an american!
by swetambar on Sep 24, 2008 01:48 PM Permalink
it does not seem to be proper to criticize a person on his height and color. If he is arrogant, may be due to his academic credentials
Re: oh come on,he is an american!
by Jaichand on Sep 24, 2008 01:52 PM Permalink
By your logic Americans who won 320 nobels should be hyper arrogant and so should be Mr bill gates and Warren buffet ..... they are every so humble dont you see them. no hint of arrogance.
Indians have definately a whole gene of ARROGANCE in them, in reality it is a inferiority complex.
That boxer vijender said he could defeate mohammad ali and mike tyson at once at the same time, when he won an olympic bronze. Such arrogance is uncalled for.
Re: oh come on,he is an american!
by zahid maqbool on Sep 27, 2008 11:30 PM Permalink
I think what Jai Chand has said is 100% right in terms of rascist people in the world. I have really never seen this kind of stupid infighting and hate in a country other than India. For e.x. marathis problem with biharis, north vs south and vice versa. the list goes on and every single town and state in this country hates each other. You will also see a fair Indian saying kallu kallu to a dark Indian and they will do this openly. But yeah I am fair and i never said anyone kallu kallu thats why I really dont think Indians are arrogant. Indians in general are very friendly and humble people.
