Reservation can be a wonderful tool for uplifting the downtrodden. But if the reservation can get you votes, it will become another tool for vote bank politics.
Most parts of the country can reframe rules of reservation right away.While it is for sure that caste based reservations are almost obsolete, there are certain pockets in India that still need reservation and empowerment of the downtrodden. Certain places in the northern states still follow Varna and jati based and gender based atrocities which even the police choose to ignore. Results are slavery or murders of those who oppose.
A time based approach to empower such people in these areas and then we can look at total abolition of caste basd reservations.
This article is the need of the hour.. We must go beyond caste based reservation now as its becoming too much of a hindrance. Whatever wrong has been done is in the past. We cannot spoil the future of a whole country for what went on 70 years ago. Our brightest minds are leaving us and going abroad. Those who can afford it are spending up-to lakhs of rupees, sending their children abroad to study just to insulate them from reservation. People from the general category are left with jobs that are lower than their calibre just because they could not meet some extremely high cut off. Those who get through via the reservation route face daily discrimination in IITs, IIMs and all top colleges.
I come from a forward caste(Brahmin) but basic education up to 10th class was done in a rural school.
Based on my experience in school where i had classmates from various casts i definitely support the reservations based on casts specially for SC.
my parents always used to tell me that the education is so essential and used to take personal interest in my education, in contrary for the lower cast classmates of mine they have to convince their parents very hard to go to school as the parents were uneducated and never knew the value of education. there was objection from their parents and other family members that if you go to school who will do your share of work.
it was a real tough task for them(classmates from lower casts) to go to school, and the atmosphere was such it will always encourage you not to study. only those who are very much interested in studies can over come and go to school for study.
in such an atmosphere how can a lower cast student compare on equal terms with a forward caste student. the reservation will at least give the struggling lower caste student hope and chance to come near to the forward caste students.
if not for his atmosphere he will never be able to compete and complete education and get respect in the society.
the other side of the story is what i have observed when i shifted to city for education. there is no practiced caste system in schools and collages and even the people belonging to lower
Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by Pavankumar Siddhi on Sep 15, 2014 11:41 AM
in contrary to this when i shifted to city for further education i have noticed that there is no such difference of caste in the schools and all the parents encourage the children and take interest in their education, at least don't stop them going to school. the students from lower casts are above the other students as they have reservation and they can get the seats in professional collages with much lesser marks.
the students from uppar caste were always thinking that this is against them and the students from lower casts are being fevered by the government.
after being in the both rural and urban education i can say that the reservation is essential for the people who are in the lower casts but that should be till you get some upliftment and may be till a person gets a government job etc. after getting the government job may be they can withdraw the reservation for the next generation of that person as they are uplifted to a reasonable level. under current situation only those who got first benefited are enjoying all the benefits and never allowing it to go to the actual needy persons.
ones you get a government job or a reasonable education and job you should not enjoy the reservation for your next generation and the reservation benefit has to go to the needy persons.
Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by amit on Sep 15, 2014 11:59 AM
Mr Siddhi. I give you live example of this foolish caste based reservation. My friend got 96% marks in 12th Std but he couldnt got admission in top college of Mumbai for Engineering. On the other hand, a known person in my nearby building got admission in same college by getting 80% bcse of reservation. In first year he got KT and second year he failed. I have seen SC / ST / OBC people richer than open category people simply bcse of reservation. Hence i completely support that there should be only one reservation " Financially backward"
Re: Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by Pavankumar Siddhi on Sep 15, 2014 12:19 PM
yes Mr.Amit, i can understand your pain but you are referring to a urban or metro life where caste is no factor of discrimination for living but it is there is education. urban people feel that government is doing extra favor for the reserved candidates.
either the law has to be different for rural and urban or the best solution is that our government should invest and make so many seats available that every student who pass the entrance or get qualifying marks can have a seat in collage. this will change the reservation system in education.
again its a government failure not the problem of reservation.
but still i say for lower cast people in rural areas the atmosphere around them is not in favor of education. as long as we cant change that atmosphere the reservation or marks advantage age advantage for rural backward students should continue.
Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by chakravarthy v on Sep 15, 2014 12:14 PM
I think the issue actually is getting diverted.
66 years back situation is different and now it is entirely different. We should not look this issue in narrow sense at all.
What are we achieving by giving reservations has to be looked at very closely. The reservations in education, jobs and promotions have more negative impact than the perceived good impact in encouraging the children of lower caste to go to schools.
In the process, we are comprimising on the quality of our people in the government departments and are getting filled with people of less caliber (no offence to anybody). The high caliber people look for other alternatives and those who are in it already getting frustrated.
The idea of encouraging education for lower caste should not be linked to guaranteed seats or berths. There are ways and means of encouraging the children by giving free education, scholarships etc.
Also, we should appreciate the idea that these reservations are given for initially for 10 years only. This according to them is sufficient to bring the social justice. Now it is more than 60 years, does this not sufficient ?. This still continues could have only one reason,
1. This is not helping in achieving its objective.
This is all the more reason to scrap it immediately.
Good wishes!!
also, still if somebody feels not sufficient means this actually does not
Re: Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by Pavankumar Siddhi on Sep 15, 2014 12:23 PM
The other way of looking at it is, 50% seats are reserved for the uppar caste students( i mean General quota but very few reserved candidates make in to it) and only 50% of the seats are left to the lower caste people who make 85% of Indian population.
Re: Re: Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by Quality Engineers on Sep 15, 2014 01:49 PM
first remove all the castes and keep a genereal caste i.e HINDU and every one should have only names nothing attached to it in front or back of the name like muslims and christans and why we should have only bramhins doing pooja we can also learn them and do it with same devotion and respect.there should be no agarwal,yadav etc.than only they should talk about reservation. that means you want fruit but u don't want watering the tree.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reservations to the lower casts is essential in India
by sriram chandra rao on Sep 27, 2014 10:43 AM
RESERVED CATEGORY STUDENTS ARE Moral less pupils and we are encouraging them to drain our system, a live example is in my village the reserved pupil fail multiple years as they could not pass even class 9 and they abuse other new come GC students with abusing behaviour which i did not want but must reveal as they (A GROUP OF SC students) treat other new comer GC students in an abusing way they touch the smaller brahmin or other GC students this they do it confidently as they get hold of the class teachers as they are failed multiple times and still continue to contnue studies to avail Reserved Jobs Waiting for them, THIS IS THE GROSS OUTPUT THE SAME IS IMPACTS IN OUR CURRENT GOVT OFFICE GOING STAFF AS WELL SO: WE NEED TO BAN RESERVATION TO FREE US FROM CORRUPTION
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by sriram chandra rao on Sep 27, 2014 10:48 AM
Reserved category students who fail multiple times remains in same class and sexually abusing the GC students who are smaller in age but still the group of sc st people continues their study to avail reservation this is what all the story about RESERVATION
Politicians surviving on reservation politics...If u have got the guts then Go and get yourself operated and treated by a reservation based below merit admitted doctor...Taking of raising caliber through reservation is utter nonsense.....
I wonder how intelligence of a person depends on caste, color, religion, language? By giving reservations, how does it help to grow intelligence of a person? In fact, it will kill the competitive spirit of the candidates by offering free-lunch.
Best is let the lower income people get free coaching to face entrance tests along with all other candidates.
Re: reservations
by Pradip Bhattacharjee on Sep 15, 2014 11:55 AM
Your suggestion is really impressive.Govt should adopt such kind of formula towards reservation in all cases.
Re: watch this movie
by Gaurav GUPTA on Sep 15, 2014 11:59 AM
Yes this movie was about reservation but Rakesh OP Mehra (Correct me if i m wrong about the name) did not give a clear verdict ,if he was against reservation or for reservation and moved the story towards a "coaching clasess V/S normal college"
I wonder how intelligence of a person depends on caste, color, religion, language? By giving reservations, how does it help to grow intelligence of lower castes? In fact, it will kill the competitive spirit of the candidates by offering free-lunch, free-money etc.
Best is let the lower income people get free coaching to face entrance tests along with all other candidates.
Sometimes I am really surprised how does this nation tolerate such a policy which is so unfair to the students at the beginning of their life.With an SC/ST/OBC certificate, one can get into prestigious institutions like IITs (and in coveted jobs also) while another student is forced to pursue a very ordinary course even though he has scored same marks. Furthermore, the person holding SC/ST certificate may be the son of an IAS officer while I may be the son of a low profile father. Even economic criteria can not solve this problem. In private sector, it is sometimes easy to show salaries as very poor while the employee may get income in various other forms.Many self employed persons including doctors understate their income to the extent of 90% or more. The only solution is to remove this inhuman policy of reservation. Geve free education to the poorer children at good schools but not afterwards.
