The Headline should be IT clerk.Engineers are meant to design and innovate but in India it is all about giving service and doing some which is already there. System and Network admin work on product specific domain and Software Engineer just write codes on already developed languages. It is not a good sign there is nothing innovation.
More then 85% IT jobs in india are clerical in nature.They are support or maintenance kind of jobs. All big software product companies which are American.
Re: IT industry in India has become clerical.
by Ikisswonderland on Mar 01, 2012 03:22 PM
Apart from some accounting packages for a few banks, what is the development from the IT sectors. I dont see any software being chrned out. I agree, what you say.
Main reason for unemployment IT sector not quality based student. Example taken in C.G state,2001 only ten engineering college presently more than fifty engineering college and every college IT branch is complusory,because starting of these branch is very easy not taking more infrastructure investment like only 10 no. computer system is installed IT branch is ready for bussiness but other branch lot of investment required.In this state taking addmission in engineering is very easy but addmission in B.Sc is very tough so due to these reason they not get job,also faculty is important factor.
forget IT sector we cant even make our own weapons, ships , fighter planes , etc ...
this is becuase we dont have an open and merit based system ...
India dusre ka haq marne walo ka desh hein !!!
dont blame students ... our indian mentality is pathetic ... bill gates and steve jobs quit college ... made big products ... premzi and murthy just brought jobs from there to here ...
Re: ONLY IT SECTOR ??? .... :-)
by AK on Mar 02, 2012 09:52 AM
what do u mean by forget IT sector we cant even make our own weapons, ships , fighter planes , etc ... " u mean the later activities are easier than the IT jobs, especially those in India????
Dear Sir, It is difficult to say who is unemployable and who is not. I believe that everybody is employable in some way or the other. The reasons are given below. a) Employment is a contract just as much as abuy-sell contract. If the employer finds a candidate suitable for a certain job he is hired. There are no hard and fast rules about who ought to be employed and who should not be. 2. Except for the fact that a person has a proclivity for crime or for some major defect in the character,no one is unemployable. These days even dubious characters also find employment, so practically no one is unemployable. 2. Education assists but does not guarantee employment.Educated people develop notions about their skills and abilities and expect fancy titles and salaries. They reject jobs unthinkingly. 3. Sales jobs are available for the asking since good sales persons are wanted anywhere, but people shun these jobs. It is incorrect to say that IT or for that matter any graduate is patently unemployable as there are no quick fixes here. Such surveys only spread gloom and anxiety among the educational institutes and the student community.
Re: Re: The Umemployability scare.
by Prahlad Kakkari on Mar 02, 2012 01:29 PM
Without causing any offence, he mentioned a very valid point. Let him be a lecturer or an HR in any company.....we need to hear sane comments and not personal ones in a forum like this.
Earlier British created such a educational system for indians that they can have local teachers and clerks . These days these political educational honchos and politicians are running big engg educational institutes all over states like MH , TN , Karnataka so that they can earn money for their political careers . For e.g. in 2000 MH govt made IT engg branch compulsory in every MH engg college ... there are around 500 engg colleges . So every year 60 x 500 (only ) IT engrs pass out from MH engg colleges .. Add around 60 x 200 Comp engrs to this list ... again add around 2000 x 30 BCA/MCA students ... again add around 10000 x 10 pvt Comp professionals passing out from pvt comp institutes such as APTECH , NIIT , C-DAC ( passing out after every 3 months ) .. so the total comes out as 30000 100000 12000= 142000 ( approx.) You can add 10000 more engrs from NON-IT branch jumping into IT .. so at around 150000 freshers come to cities like Pune , Mumbai in search of a IT-Job ... there are around 1000( small , big ) IT companies in Pune and Mumbai .. SO how is it going to possible for 1 IT company to give job to 150 freshers every year ... I am still talking about freshers from Maharashtra state only ... Add more IT guys from other states such as Dehli , CG , Gujrat , UP , Punjab , Bihar , North eastern states ... and many more ... Ok through on/ off campus interviews out of these 150000 freshers , let's say 25000 gets jobs ... still 125000 are remaining ...
First of all i would like to ask whether we are really doing any quality high tech work in IT Sector?
The IT service sector just gives an employment but never gives an opportunity to have any quality work.
Existing codes getting rehashed,or modifying existing design or are common mode of work happening.There isn't much things you do from the concept to design cycle or in other words anything from the scratch.
This is the case with 80% of the work happening in IT.Hardly you get any quality projects to bank upon.
These days hardly anybody stays more than 3 years in IT and it has become a trend to do MBA and diversify the field.
For these kind of projects the companies are taking the graduates through some high funda aptitude,pshychometric tests . This would just give the aspirant impression that some thing big he would do once he gets employed but unfortunately ends up being disillusioned.
I think we don't require any heavy brains for the kind of work we are doing here in India.
I jst wonder whether these survey's have really any meaning !!!
Re: Re: Survey doesn't have any meaning
by Sivasubramanian on Mar 01, 2012 01:17 PM
Its not very true. As per your message, there is no need of any filtering or any test,just hire on FIFO. If you think its just a clerical work why 1. IT colleagues have to spend more than 8 hours on a Job/day. 2. If you want to work on tihngs from Scratch every day, who will maintain the ones you had developed. 3. I agree very mere percentage of the Job involves routine work, but its not true that all the IT colleagues are just pressing the same key every day.
