I think the results we see today reflect the hearts and minds of the citizens of India.
That is "Hatred cannot prevail for long!"
Negative & ill campaigning has cost victory to the BJP & its allies.
I personally feel that BJP has educated, qualified and energitic condidates as compared to their counter parts.
But, the reason for their self-destruction is, their dependency on too much of a hatred spreading negative, divide & rule approach, which unfortunately does not appeal and convince the masses.
The simple reason being, for any country to succeed & prosper, the key element is the harmony in the society.
When the society as a whole is in the harmony, the plans of the development of the nation can find success.
Harmony = Peace = Stability = Development = Succcess
Any human ultimately wants peace within the society irrespective the religions / languages.
But, BJP wants to win, with a hate spreading campaign, creating communal disharmony and dividing the hearts of the people. It can never win with this kinda approach.
Instead of emphasising on what plans they have to contribute to the advancement of India, they adopted cheap, immoral and baseless means of creating communal divides, spreading hatred, making ill, personal and negative remarks on the leaders of the opponents, only pointing out the weakness of the others, instead of self-analysis.
BJP should understand that today's India is different & dynamic.
Re: Hatred cannot win LOVE!!
by Ramesh Murthy on May 18, 2009 06:38 AM
Every thing you have said is a CONGRESS tactic! They are the past masters of Divide and Rule and they have learnt well from the British!
Re: Hatred cannot win LOVE!!
by sachin johri on May 18, 2009 01:52 AM
That's why 7.9 crore People voted to BJP because they really dont like Muslims appeasement of Congress
Let us not get carried away by the 2009 election results and read too much in it. This simply was a vote against the obstacles of progress (namely, the Left and similar regional parties), with the Congress turning out to be the bigger beneficiary as the BJP hardly has a strong presence in many of the states that were earlier dominated by the commies or other regionals.
Re: Idiotic indians
by kumar on May 18, 2009 01:01 AM
You have made a sad, but perhaps logical point my friend. Indeed, the people of this country deserve what they suffer - disease, no civic amenities, threat of terror, etc.
Congress ruled 90% of the time, so desrves 90% of the blame at least for the state of the nation. And yet, our bozos voted it back!
Re: Idiotic indians
by Guest on May 18, 2009 01:06 AM
Very well said , i too belive that they voted the Govt who demolish their homes and does not protect them from terrorists
Re: Idiotic indians
by uniza khan on May 18, 2009 01:08 AM
try to compare the casualities occur in gujarat riots or in Babri masjid riots and then say something. The number of people killed in blasts were not even 5% of these BJP provoken riots
Re: Re: Idiotic indians
by sachin johri on May 18, 2009 01:47 AM
Khan sahaab- Please add Sikh riot 1984 and bhagalpur 1989 riots and 1947 riots because of Congress, (BJP was not their at that time)
friends, mr. Irgun Stern is a bangladeshi in disguise in this forum. pls do not reply to any of his messages. he is here just to create trouble in the name of bangladesh.
Musli ms are poor because they are bree ding more children without adequate finances; Musli ms are backward because many of them cannot afford good education; Musli ms get easily provoked because they have stopped thinking with their own intellect; It is a scare to go thru a musli m dominated area even if you are a police officer on duty; Most of you believe that your Q book asks you to kill non-musli ms and to ignore the birth place; CONPARTY LED BY THE ITALIA N is the most communal party because of: a) It allows - overtly or covertly - illegal immigrants from the neighboring countries; b) It always looks at muslims as a votebank; after 60 years of independence - mostly ruled by CONPARTY - muslims are now being recognised as backward and deserving reservations. c) Haj subsidy; Certainly State intrusion in religious affairs; d) Reversal of Shah Bano judgment; e) The brazen declaration by the PM - obviously at the direction of his foreign born boss - that muslims have the first right. PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS DIFFERENT FROM EQUAL RIGHTS; f) The PM's admission that he lost sleep even when a genuinely secular Australian Govt. arrested a musli m on suspected charges of terror; f) Keep watching tamasha when musli ms in Srinagar have ethnically cleansed that area; g) Amarnath yatra pilgrim facilities denial; and endless other things.
I want someone here to contest my assertion that the CONPARTY is more communal than BJP. Rather BJP is not communal at all;
Re: BJP has lost the election; So please be honest now;
by Guest on May 18, 2009 10:38 PM
Subramanyasastry hoskote, you have correctly hit the nail on it's head. The CONPARTY is certainly more communal. India is more like Pakistan now except that the MAJORITY IS TREATED LIKE A MINORITY. Its time Hindus wake up and get real. The English TV media are all in the pockets of the CONPARTY. It is a dangerous trend. The Election Commission should bar and censure offending media in geting involved in the campaigning and support of any party just like candidates are censured when making inaapropriate remarks or speeches.
Re: Re: mr. Irgun Stern
by Vishal Bahubali on May 18, 2009 12:30 AM
out -- out to bangladesh you sk unk. go and fight the mozlems over there. surely you dont have the guts to do that becos they kick you every day.
dont pollute the message boards of this country. just get lost and eat hasina's steaming cr a p.
Re: Re: Re: Re: mr. Irgun Stern
by Vishal Bahubali on May 18, 2009 12:41 AM
mr stern, surely you are born out of khan sena :-) pls leave this country and this forum. pleasseeee !
With due respect to Mr. Raman, he must have scrounged and scoured to produce these gems from the Hindutva websites. Normally these sites are full of crude material denouncing: Hindus who do not agree with their sectarian outlook, Christians, Muslims, Westerners, and anyone arguing for religious harmony. They are full of crudely written chauvinist comments which in civilized societies would be classified as hate speech bordering on ra8cist/ extr8emist ideas. These websites advocate religious fundamentalism, hatred, violence. They are utterly humorless, full of a sneering attitude, inferiority complex, and are characterized by violence of language and advocacy of cruelty against dissenters. It is frightening to read the stuff written in these sites and these sites represent the terrible dumping down of human intellect. It is estimated there are about 600 of these poison-spreaders on the net, there are even some specializing in vilifying a particular religion. culture, class of people. It is a hate-hell out there.
It must have taken Mr. Raman a huge effort to sift those sensible remarks from the mount of filth available..
Re: Sifting out the sensible..
by dismal world on May 18, 2009 12:23 AM
And truer words about the utterly nasty and humorless hindutva presence on the web were never said before.
Re: Sifting out the sensible..
by Vishal Bahubali on May 18, 2009 12:04 AM
very very well written my friend bhaumik. you should post more on this forum. it is indeed frightening to see these hindutva website and the arrogance and utter ignorance of the people who run them. reminds one of the writings of golwalkar and savarkar -- petty goondas out there to frighten people in the name of fascism.
I am a BJP supporter and I am dissapointed by the dismal performance. However, I am happy that: 1. Paswan lost 2. Lalu & Mulayam very dispensable now 3. All listed mafias lost in U.P. 4. At last W.B. woke-up.
Congratulations to MMS as he was the one factor which ensured this resounding victory for congress. Without the alliance burden he should perform better in the national interest.
Re: Though I am dissapointed
by iqbal on May 18, 2009 12:25 PM
1. How to respect human lives 2. Study secular Indian History Avoid Sanghi History. 3. Read Quran and Hadis and understand it in right sense. 4. Work for upliftment of muslims in India 5. Work for the downtrodden the dalits and shudras 6. Avoid brahminical fanatic tendencies 7. Live and die peacefully hereafter
You can fool all the people for sometime (BJP's earlier win) You can fool some people for all the time (Modi's wins in Gujarat) But you cannot fool all the people all the time (BJP's rout in this election)
Re: An old adage
by Irgun Stern on May 17, 2009 11:54 PM
afzal, how about advocating democracy for pakistan, saudi arabia, afghanistan, somalia, sudan ........
Re: Re: An old adage
by Vishal Bahubali on May 18, 2009 12:16 AM
Dear mr. stern, you seem to be a bangladeshi in disguise in this forum. go back to bangladesh and eat hasina's steaming cra p. why are you here ?
Re: Re: Re: An old adage
by Irgun Stern on May 18, 2009 12:18 AM
dear vishal you seem to be a jehadi under cover. is your madrassa education over? did they impart arms training today?
Re: Re: Re: Re: An old adage
by Vishal Bahubali on May 18, 2009 12:20 AM
go back to bangladesh mr. stern. no place for you here. or we will give you another pola you sw ine.
Re: Re: An old adage
by Raman Shiva on May 18, 2009 12:03 AM
Y should any one care about pak,saudi,afghan etc?r u indian or what Irqun?ur name doesnt sound indian?
