"That's why Calcutta is not for everyone. You want your cities clean and green; stick to Delhi. You want your cities, rich and impersonal; go to Bombay. You want them high-tech and full of draught beer; Bangalore's your place. But if you want a city with a soul: come to Calcutta.
When I look back on the years I've spent in Calcutta - and I come back so many times each year that I often feel I've never been away - I don't remember the things that people remember about cities. When I think of London, I think of the vast open spaces of Hyde Park. When I think of New York, I think of the frenzy of Times Square. When I think of Tokyo, I think of the bright lights of Shinjiku. And when I think of Paris, I think of the Champs Elysee. But when I think of Calcutta, I never think of any one place. I don't focus on the greenery of the maidan, the beauty of the Victoria Memorial, the bustle of Burra Bazar or the splendour of the new Howrah 'Bridge'. I think of people.
Because, finally, a city is more than bricks and mortars, street lights and tarred roads. A city is the sum of its people. And who can ever forget - or replicate - the people of Calcutta?"
Re: Vir Sangbhi on Calcutta
by Indian on May 11, 2009 01:31 PM
Mr. Parichay, if you want a city with a soul but without proper law & order, proper health infrastructure, proper transport facility, proper governance then hats off to you. As it is Kolkata has become too congested and commuting is the biggest pain. To move a distance of 5 km, it may take you half an hour to 2 hours. Don't you think this is obnoxious? The people are the soul of any city, but what these people are being offered? A big Zero. Who is exploiting these ppl? Your very own LF leaders. Please wake up. All is not lost yet.
CPMs industrialization policy: Threaten poor MULSIM farmers and grab land. If farmers dont agree, kill farmers, and grab land. Sell to capitalists, and enjoy the profit.
In Bengal, Mulsims are 25% of population, and CPM ensured that Mulsims get only 1% of the jobs in the goverment.
Sorry boss, no other party does this... Mulsims are going to teach CPM a very bitter lesson in this election.
Other reasons: 2. Left alliance partners CPI, RSP, and FB are angry against CPMs big brother fascist attitude, and they are against forcible land grabbing. 3. Left supporters are angry with Left parties for supporting Congress for 4 years. 4. Congress-TMC alliance are conslidating anti-Left votes.
Thuglak week front page saayss: CBI officers are pasting Congress election posters on the wall!
Manmohan Singh: What are they doing?
Sonia: They have done all their job perfectly (Closing Quattrochi case and etc) and they are free now. So asked them to paste Congress poster for election!
"which means "the situation is very tight. Mone hoye poribortan hobe (I think there might be a change)." What change??? Don’t forget it’s a parliamentary election…if u wants to change any things in WB, think after another 2years only during bidhanshaba election ….casting your vote on basis of national issue only…. Don’t forget during this world crisis period India is surviving on the basis of nationalized banking system only…Lst few yrs Left is fighting on these issue about the non privatization of banking, PF & insurance system, which is our fundamental base for economic system….
are they not ashamed with the state of affairs in w.bengal. In threee 3 decades the state with so much of talent and natural resources have been crushed to zero by CPM... What is the sense of Karad taking of forming government. CPM can't take any respoonsiblity of development and improvement except criticising or raising the objects. Let karad and party stop the nonsense/ shridharan
Re: left hold on wb
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 12:26 PM
before karat stop the nonsense.. ppl like parichay and othrs left followers should be shown the door first. bcoz of these ppl, karat hv so much courage to talk double standard.
Re: Re: left hold on wb
by debasish on May 11, 2009 01:28 PM
Rightly said, if you look at messages from Parichay, AB etc., they are not answering my questions, trying to divert the issue. I challenge any supporter of CPM to comment on "eradication of English from Bengal" and 1962 Indo-China war
Re: Re: Re: left hold on wb
by Sandeep Mukherjee on May 11, 2009 01:40 PM
ok friend here goes: on english the commies did a stupid mistake.. but so has the RSS wallahs, mulayam brigade etc.. they have all chased away english.. see the situation at gujarat ..and the cow belt! on indo-china war of 1962.. pl refer to any international unbiased book .. maybe u shud read "india's china war" by neville maxwell( banned by indian govt) .. do u know what the indian govt's own investigation commission "the henderson brooks comission".. said abt the war? friend blind patriotism is of no use .. learn the facts of life more objectively!
Re: Re: Re: Re: left hold on wb
by debasish on May 11, 2009 01:58 PM
So you believe that India attacked China? Great, you desearve to be a communist. What about opposing computerization (if you do not know, Cal. Univ. was shut down for 3 days by SFI in early seventies) Communists are traitors of the highest order. It is OK if China sets up nuclears power plants in Pak or oppose an aid to Arunachal Pradesh by claiming it as an integral part of China (recent media reports), but if India joins hand with US, then it is selling our country. Great, Long live Communists, Long live China.. Have you ever talked to any Chinese people? If you can in your lifetime, then ask them about Tienanmen, most of them dont even know what happened exactly, this is the true face of communists
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: left hold on wb
by Indian on May 11, 2009 02:06 PM
Very well written Debashish. Have you noticed a common pattern in all commies? Whenever you corner them for an error or mistake, they first try to evade it by ignoring it, then they try diverting the topic, and when they see no other option but to admit they do so but promptly point at others "see them. they have done this mistake, that mistake blah blah...".
I want to ask these commie friends one thing? By pointing fingers at others, is your own sin become less? And what do you mean by blind patriotism? Patriotism has to be blind. I must support my own country, my motherland. And Mr. Sandeep Mukherjee you have proved the true colour of all commies when you've written "blind patriotism is of no use".
And what rubbish are you talking about objective facts of life? Have you checked the same in WB? I challenge you to post some objective facts about WB which are impressive.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: left hold on wb
by Sandeep Mukherjee on May 11, 2009 02:43 PM
1) opposing computers is a typically commie / leftist idiocy. 2) nehru in his naivete messed up the china affair. on one hand he blindly trusted the chinese, at the same time thru his forward policy he thrust indian patrols and posts deep inside chinese territory and to compound the mistake he kept the indian troops ill supplied and ill prepared! 3)china is an autocratic cruel state ! they did a massacre at tiananmen square to suppress protests.. like the shiv sena / bajrang dal regularly does here.. just go and try to publicly protest in mumbai agnst the shiv sena's MNS's policies and u will know what i mean!
After throwing TATA(globally recognized business group) NANO what image of Bengal Mamta put forward in front of investors.
After Buddha Deb became the CM there were an environment of hope and lot of investments are in the queue.
What TMC is doing is to create as much problem for Govt. to implement the projects.
Simple reason is if Govt. is successful in its effort Mamta would have become irrelevant. Her politics of hooliganism is only hindering WB further back.
Kick out Mamta...don't let her play this dirty politics.
Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political gain
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 12:23 PM
ohhh it is parichay again.. hw r u mr parichai?? why to blame only mamta. u communists are more dangerous for development. u ppl only know how ur jhanda (flag) will be there? who cares where is the state heading? get one bandh in every 15 days and enjoy being at home. u kaamchor ppl.shame on the communists.
Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political
by Bharat Bhushan on May 11, 2009 12:18 PM
All white paper of WB industry has the same story... loosing "Nano" project say all about CPIM and TC's progressive thought. These parties wants WB to go back in 18th century.
Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political
by Parichay on May 11, 2009 12:31 PM
Do you really believe that any politician in India perform their act for the benefit of people.
Left is going for industrialization so that they can be more close to business class and have some additional income.
mamta is doing this caused she got funded by opposite business house.
Nobody there is thinking for us...only thinking for moneytary gain. and power.
We need to choose who ever is still better....this is sad but true for Indian seudo democracy.
Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political gain
by Indian on May 11, 2009 01:34 PM
Where were these developments for last 32 years? Has LF woken up only after 2006? Why industrialisation didn't flourish in Haldia despite two big industries being present there? Do you know how much money one has to pay to party fund to set up an industry there? Let's not pull the cat out of the bag.
Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political gain
by A Ganguli on May 11, 2009 12:30 PM
Will anyone answer these? (1) Why was double-crop land in Singur selected for Tata plant? Was there no fallow (infertile) land in WB? Or govt. owned land? (2) Why didn't the Tatas deal directly with the land owners? Why did the Govt acquire the land and lease it to the Tatas? (3) why doesn't the LF govt come out with a win-win land acquisition policy and not depend on the Act of 1894?
Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political
by abhijit dutta on May 11, 2009 12:54 PM
Dear Mr. ganguli, All the people who talk against Mamata's stand on Singur can be divided into four kinds. i) Those who are illeterate and basically daily wagers and whose generations have been brainwashed and terrorised indirectly to remain with the red flag. ii) Those who working with the various state govt machineries directly or indirectly and enjoying the culture of no work all pay of the red flag. iii)Youngsters especially those passed out from various engg and polytechnique college in the state who are looking for job inside the state and has somehow been made to understand that their carrer has been doomed because Nano factory has shifted from W.B and they will never get job anywhere again. iv) Rest are all those who are bacically from other states,who either don't know mamata well or has not followed the issue closely. Those who have read in bits and pieces at some time from some newspaper or have heard from someone and formed a rather uninformed opinion.
Re: Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap politi
by Sandeep Mukherjee on May 11, 2009 01:24 PM
and ur aware of the issues at singur? pl educate us friend!
Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political
by subhankar middya on May 11, 2009 01:11 PM
@A.Ganguly u shud knw most of the land in bengal is fertile.....not like other states in India....now u can say...why double crop land....u shud knw...all d lands were nt double crop...as it was declared by TMC and Bhumi Bnachao Committee....bt dere were double-crop land...bt as far my knowledge goes...TATA chose the land....and to give better opportunity (than other STATES) to TATA...state govt. sanctioned it... now can u tell me....in Gujrat...TATA directly acquired the land or the Government acquired it.....or dey came out with WIN-WIN land acquisition....i dnt think so....bt there was no chaos from opposition.....
u shud also aware of Nayachar.....there was no problem regarding land acquisition....still Ms. Mamta Banerjee opposing it....
wat bout Katoya Power Station..... opposing every thing....without having any knowledge of its advantage.....only for small political gain...... DO u have any answer??
and can u justify d logic...if u hav nt done anything in last 32 years....we wont allow u to do it now!!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 12:37 PM
mr a ganguli... ask this question to @parichay . let him show some fair logic. i m sure he can't because he is a blind minded cpm supporter.
Re: Re: Mamta Ruining Bengal future for easy and cheap political
by Sandeep Mukherjee on May 11, 2009 01:23 PM
1) u shud ask tata this question .. they surveyed various areas and put up their demand to the govt.the TATAs had lucrative offers from uttaranchal etc. where they stood to gain financially .. financial angle ws very imp for the TATAs coz NANO is a low cost car ! can u argue with investors who are beign heavily wooed by other states? dont u think w bengal anyway had a bad image amongst industrialists to start with? u want the govt to make it worse? which govt in india wud refuse a mega car projest from the TATAs? 2)do u know what it means to deal directly with small fragmented land holders? dont u see what happened to the tata metalics project near kharagpur precisely for this reason? they waited for years to negotiate with every individual land holder and finally left! in case of singur then we wud all have cursed the govt for lack of initiative and vision if the TATAs had left in frustration due to govt inaction! the same ppl who are suddenly pro-farmer today wud have cursed the govt to hell and back in that case! 3)u have any constructive suggestions on yr win-win policy? does yr didi have a practical solution? what has happened at katwa? no power generation plant is possible there coz some farmers aint giving up their land though the majority agreed!at rajarhat no new power sub stations are being put up to feed the enormous new demand coz of TMC backed farmers!what happened to the east - west coridoor at barasat - raichak? again no land no project!
Re: Dear Bengalies
by Sanjeeb roy on May 11, 2009 12:07 PM
your Language seems to be that you are from UP Bihari.Please take care of your state.Please do not send your bhaiyas here.
Re: Re: Dear Bengalies
by sunil Kapur on May 11, 2009 12:11 PM
No use of giving advice to these so called most idiot lazy and blind Bongi intellectuals Fools They do not have head but also eyes to see progress of western India Compare
Re: Re: Dear Bengalies
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 12:31 PM
mr roy, if sombody is comparing the development with the other states , what's wrong in it? u should be sporty enough to face the challange and show ur logic.
